Should the BDO pick Durrant for the Grand Slam

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Should the BDO pick Durrant as one of their GSOD representatives

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DavidB wrote:
Skewball wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:05 am I told you all this a couple of days ago. PDC rejected BDO list and put Duzza in instead of NIck Kenny


What was the BDO list then??

On a general note, why Wayne Warren instead of Nick Kenny (Kenny and Kleermaker both ranked above) ?
Well the rankings now dont mirror what the rankings were at the end of the season, which is the list they will have used.
I assume this is the reason why.

The BDO list apparently was the same as the 8 names listed but take Durrant out and add Kenny in.
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I think whoever runs the BDO (I'm not sure anymore) need to grow some and tell the PDC it's there picks and if they dint like it pull the 8 players. I'm sure Sky would soon be into and asks what happening as they cant sell it to the general.public as a cross code event if no BDO players.

Absolutely disappointing with the selections but I did call it apart from Waites being dropped which I think is a oversight and they now worrying about this from what I heard.

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Hardly think the BDO are in a position to be calling the shots. Its an event they get 8 picks for, and as far as i know they dont pay a penny towards it.
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So any money glen win will not count on his ranking as picked by the bdo I believe
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Im sure he is gutted(!)
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Bag Carrier wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:50 pm I think whoever runs the BDO (I'm not sure anymore) need to grow some and tell the PDC it's there picks and if they dint like it pull the 8 players. I'm sure Sky would soon be into and asks what happening as they cant sell it to the general.public as a cross code event if no BDO players.

Absolutely disappointing with the selections but I did call it apart from Waites being dropped which I think is a oversight and they now worrying about this from what I heard.

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Why disappointed with the selections? Just glen's inclusion?
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Bag Carrier wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:50 pm I think whoever runs the BDO (I'm not sure anymore) need to grow some and tell the PDC it's there picks and if they dint like it pull the 8 players. I'm sure Sky would soon be into and asks what happening as they cant sell it to the general.public as a cross code event if no BDO players.

Absolutely disappointing with the selections but I did call it apart from Waites being dropped which I think is a oversight and they now worrying about this from what I heard.

Things ain't getting better, Things are getting worse.
Great! The BDO can put up at least a quarter of the prize money which I'm sure they'll be glad to do.
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And I thought he left the BDO?........how can he be representing them?
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Paddy McGinty wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:24 pm And I thought he left the BDO?........how can he be representing them?
He's an all darter like me.
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devosteve wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:26 pm
Paddy McGinty wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:24 pm And I thought he left the BDO?........how can he be representing them?
He's an all darter like me.
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oche balboa wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:27 pm Skewball pretending he was in the know there
He's the 2019 version of the 2009 Brett.
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Bag Carrier wrote:I think whoever runs the BDO (I'm not sure anymore) need to grow some and tell the PDC it's there picks and if they dint like it pull the 8 players. I'm sure Sky would soon be into and asks what happening as they cant sell it to the general.public as a cross code event if no BDO players.

Absolutely disappointing with the selections but I did call it apart from Waites being dropped which I think is a oversight and they now worrying about this from what I heard.

Things ain't getting better, Things are getting worse.

I think If that was to happen sky would happily let the pdc tell them to fuck odd and rebrand the event as a champions of champions event.

The bdo arnt in any position to demand anything and as Matt porter said the deal specifically says the pdc have to agree the names of the players and have a right to veto.

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Dannyboy wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:45 pm
Bag Carrier wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:50 pm I think whoever runs the BDO (I'm not sure anymore) need to grow some and tell the PDC it's there picks and if they dint like it pull the 8 players. I'm sure Sky would soon be into and asks what happening as they cant sell it to the general.public as a cross code event if no BDO players.

Absolutely disappointing with the selections but I did call it apart from Waites being dropped which I think is a oversight and they now worrying about this from what I heard.

Things ain't getting better, Things are getting worse.
Great! The BDO can put up at least a quarter of the prize money which I'm sure they'll be glad to do.
Have to say, I completely agree with Tony, and have articulated same in previous posts. I get that Sky would want Durrant in as the current BDO World Champion, and the tournament will be the better for his inclusion, however he is currently ranked in the Top 32 of the PDC and should be qualifying through the PDC qualifying criteria. He is not a BDO player, has not been selected by the BDO to represent them, and is only one of the 8 BDO qualifiers due to the insistence of the PDC. Ergo he should be classed as a wildcard, which effectively he is, and the BDO allowed autonomy to pick who they want.
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So if Glen should reach the European Championship Final, he qualifies as a PDC player, would decline his BDO invitation, and I use the word invitation very loosely, and the money he wins goes on his ranking.

Doesn't make the Euro-Final, can accept his mandated invitation and pocket any cash he wins, but it will not go on the PDC OOM.

Third scenario is he takes the shit or bust option and declines the enforced invite and plays the PDC qualifier, hence gaining any winnings into the OOM.

Wonder which of the latter 2 option he will take. ;-)

Can you imagine the Sky reaction should he have gone down the Qualifer route. :grin:
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Why on earth would he refuse a guaranteed payday to play qualifiers? He has no main order of merit ranking pressure. Silly suggestion i have seen a few times now.
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Ginge wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:25 pm Why on earth would he refuse a guaranteed payday to play qualifiers? He has no main order of merit ranking pressure. Silly suggestion i have seen a few times now.
He wouldn't. PDC have already confirmed he is accepting BDO mandated invite and will not be playing qualifier.

With just over three weeks until the start of the 2019 Grand Slam of Darts, 20 players are assured of places in the 32-player event.

Taking place at Wolverhampton's Aldersley Leisure Village from November 9-17, the 13th staging of the Grand Slam will see players from the PDC and BDO systems face off for the Eric Bristow Trophy and £550,000 in prize money.

The 32 players will be split into eight groups of four players for the round-robin phase, with the top two players from each group then progressing to the knockout stage.

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Steve Lennon and William O'Connor, the Republic of Ireland's World Cup runners-up, can take the 13th and 14th PDC Qualifier places if the finalists of the Unibet European Championship are both already guaranteed qualification in the Grand Slam.

Mensur Suljovic and Ian White, the highest ranked European Tour event winners not to have already qualified, can take the 15th and 16th PDC Qualifier places if the finalists of both the European Championship and Jack's Casino World Series of Darts Finals are all already guaranteed qualification in the Grand Slam.

Lakeside Champions Glen Durrant and Mikuru Suzuki head up the eight BDO representatives. Having accepted his invitation as a BDO representative, Durrant will not be competing in the Grand Slam Qualifier.

The remaining eight spots will be up for grabs on Monday November 4 at the Grand Slam Qualifier, which is open to all PDC Tour Card Holders who are not already qualified for the event.

The nine days of action will be broadcast live on Sky Sports in the UK, on PDCTV-HD for Rest of the World Subscribers and through the PDC's worldwide broadcast partners including DAZN and RTL7.

Draw information

The top eight ranked PDC players on the main Order of Merit at the cut-off date shall be seeded as per the bracket order in groups A – H with the remaining 16 players placed in main Order of Merit order in to the two remaining pots.

The eight BDO qualifiers shall be drawn randomly, one placed in each group.

PDC Qualifiers method of qualification

Michael van Gerwen - 2018/19 PDC World Champion
Gerwyn Price - 2018 Grand Slam Champion
Rob Cross - 2019 World Matchplay Champion
Dimitri Van den Bergh - 2018 World Youth Champion
Nathan Aspinall - 2019 UK Open Champion
Daryl Gurney - 2018 Players Champion
Gary Anderson, Peter Wright - 2019 World Cup winners
Michael Smith - 2018/19 PDC World Championship runner-up
Dave Chisnall - 2019 World Grand Prix runner-up
Martin Schindler - 2018 World Youth Championship runner-up
James Wade - 2019 Masters runner-up
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ssjsa wrote:
Dannyboy wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:45 pm
Bag Carrier wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:50 pm I think whoever runs the BDO (I'm not sure anymore) need to grow some and tell the PDC it's there picks and if they dint like it pull the 8 players. I'm sure Sky would soon be into and asks what happening as they cant sell it to the general.public as a cross code event if no BDO players.

Absolutely disappointing with the selections but I did call it apart from Waites being dropped which I think is a oversight and they now worrying about this from what I heard.

Things ain't getting better, Things are getting worse.
Great! The BDO can put up at least a quarter of the prize money which I'm sure they'll be glad to do.
Have to say, I completely agree with Tony, and have articulated same in previous posts. I get that Sky would want Durrant in as the current BDO World Champion, and the tournament will be the better for his inclusion, however he is currently ranked in the Top 32 of the PDC and should be qualifying through the PDC qualifying criteria. He is not a BDO player, has not been selected by the BDO to represent them, and is only one of the 8 BDO qualifiers due to the insistence of the PDC. Ergo he should be classed as a wildcard, which effectively he is, and the BDO allowed autonomy to pick who they want.
Why would the bdo have any say in this, they don’t contribute a penny ?
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I think waites should have been in but if not picked then question asked so could not win either way
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If it was the old criteria they used to use for BDO players then Durrant would be in as a BDO representative anyway just like Bunting was..and other players like Thornton who played as the Winmau winner but was a PDC player by the time of the Grand Slam.
So it's not new.. its just the actual criteria changed and that's purey the fault of the PDC by not having it set in stone that the BDO World Champ is guaranteed a spot.. maybe in the days of QS they never thought the BDO Champ would immediately go to QS
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Zapp Brannigan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:53 pm
ssjsa wrote:
Dannyboy wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:45 pm
Bag Carrier wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:50 pm I think whoever runs the BDO (I'm not sure anymore) need to grow some and tell the PDC it's there picks and if they dint like it pull the 8 players. I'm sure Sky would soon be into and asks what happening as they cant sell it to the general.public as a cross code event if no BDO players.

Absolutely disappointing with the selections but I did call it apart from Waites being dropped which I think is a oversight and they now worrying about this from what I heard.

Things ain't getting better, Things are getting worse.
Great! The BDO can put up at least a quarter of the prize money which I'm sure they'll be glad to do.
Have to say, I completely agree with Tony, and have articulated same in previous posts. I get that Sky would want Durrant in as the current BDO World Champion, and the tournament will be the better for his inclusion, however he is currently ranked in the Top 32 of the PDC and should be qualifying through the PDC qualifying criteria. He is not a BDO player, has not been selected by the BDO to represent them, and is only one of the 8 BDO qualifiers due to the insistence of the PDC. Ergo he should be classed as a wildcard, which effectively he is, and the BDO allowed autonomy to pick who they want.
Why would the bdo have any say in this, they don’t contribute a penny ?
Because the usp of this PDC event is that it is a cross code tournament billed as being between the best of the respective organisations. For this to have any credulity, the BDO need to have the autonomy to decide who they want to represent them, and the fact that their own organisation have belief enough to select them should be a source of pride for any player selected, and motivate them to represent the BDO to the best of their ability.

Would not be an issue if like days gone by, there was qualification criteria set out before the start of the season, eg BDO WC winner/runner Up, Masters winner , WDT winner, Ladies World Champion etc, however the whole selection this year has been a total shambles.

Who can forget the 2007 IDL and WDT when these GSOD predecessors were proper tournaments with all the best players taking part. The GSOD is a joke by comparison.
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