Police charge Lancs Treasurer

[Justin Credible]

I have had a phone call from D.C.I Barker today 14.00pm (28/03/2014), informing me that the CPS have now charged our former treasurer Irene Mungins with 16 counts of fraud totalling £39,633.00. This figure could increase.
She will shortly be given a date to attend Crown Court.

On behalf of the committee can we thank all our members for their support over the last 20 months whilst the police concluded their investigations

Tommy Thompson

[Welsh Wayne]

40k some serious time if found guilty ..... and also 6 pts on the licence
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[foggy]

innocent till proven guilty i know but if found guilty i hope a spell in prison is given and not just a slap on the wrist with community service as if often the case

[Justin Credible]

wonder if the police found anymore dubious activity in the books.

I suspect the county aint that wealthy so the fact that so much money could be taken makes you wonder what sort of mess is this.
how could TT not spot this, and what lax system is/was in place.

Who knows the rest of the counties could be just as bad if this is typical of how counties are run

[nikkiboy]

Not good, time beckons methinks

[Rudy]

This "ïncident" once more emphasizes the need, for any organization, to have a controller regularly check the bookkeeper's activities!

[spaceman70]

Any transaction should require the signature of the chairman & treasurer. Was this not the case?

[WCDPA]

Any transaction should require the signature of the chairman & treasurer. Was this not the case?

No! Was 2 signatures but the chairman wasn't one of them.
The rest will no doubt come out in the court case .

[spaceman70]

Any transaction should require the signature of the chairman & treasurer. Was this not the case?

No! Was 2 signatures but the chairman wasn't one of them.
The rest will no doubt come out in the court case .

Well the chairman by rights should have been on top of that.

[The Cat]

I hear there was an alleged dodgy tombola at a county match this weekend.

[golden_boy]

i remember reading about this on here when it first happened, dont think it named names then, but did say the actions of the person almost caused lancashire darts to fold.

40k is a lot of money, what checks were in place for this to be allowed to happen? does anyone involved in lancashire darts know if this person had regualr access to the lancashire darts 'kitty'

jail term beckons if the person involved is found guilty, CPS must think they can get a prosecution.

EDIT - I see lancashire darts still lists her as treasurer.

http://www.bdodarts.com/committee.aspx?cid=45

[spaceman70]

i remember reading about this on here when it first happened, dont think it named names then, but did say the actions of the person almost caused lancashire darts to fold.

40k is a lot of money, what checks were in place for this to be allowed to happen? does anyone involved in lancashire darts know if this person had regualr access to the lancashire darts 'kitty'

jail term beckons if the person involved is found guilty, CPS must think they can get a prosecution.

I very much doubt a jail term ensues. In my professional capacity I recently dealt with a £100k+ fraud involving the VAT man. The guy had to repay the money and got 200 hours community service, that's all.

[golden_boy]

i remember reading about this on here when it first happened, dont think it named names then, but did say the actions of the person almost caused lancashire darts to fold.

40k is a lot of money, what checks were in place for this to be allowed to happen? does anyone involved in lancashire darts know if this person had regualr access to the lancashire darts 'kitty'

jail term beckons if the person involved is found guilty, CPS must think they can get a prosecution.

I very much doubt a jail term ensues. In my professional capacity I recently dealt with a £100k+ fraud involving the VAT man. The guy had to repay the money and got 200 hours community service, that's all.

thats a completely different scenario. what happened hear is theft. will she be able to repay the 40k?

[Sawley Al]

Any transaction should require the signature of the chairman & treasurer. Was this not the case?

No! Was 2 signatures but the chairman wasn't one of them.
The rest will no doubt come out in the court case .

Sums this up really. One rotten apple on a big rotten apple branch from a big rotten apple tree!

Only one apple to date has fallen!

[spaceman70]

i remember reading about this on here when it first happened, dont think it named names then, but did say the actions of the person almost caused lancashire darts to fold.

40k is a lot of money, what checks were in place for this to be allowed to happen? does anyone involved in lancashire darts know if this person had regualr access to the lancashire darts 'kitty'

jail term beckons if the person involved is found guilty, CPS must think they can get a prosecution.

I very much doubt a jail term ensues. In my professional capacity I recently dealt with a £100k+ fraud involving the VAT man. The guy had to repay the money and got 200 hours community service, that's all.

thats a completely different scenario. what happened hear is theft. will she be able to repay the 40k?

Defrauding HMRC is theft too, yes she can repay it no matter how long it takes.

[ifm]

I hear there was an alleged dodgy tombola at a county match this weekend.

Ha!
Not exactly crime of the century, a mistake was made is all.

[robdave2k]

i remember reading about this on here when it first happened, dont think it named names then, but did say the actions of the person almost caused lancashire darts to fold.

40k is a lot of money, what checks were in place for this to be allowed to happen? does anyone involved in lancashire darts know if this person had regualr access to the lancashire darts 'kitty'

jail term beckons if the person involved is found guilty, CPS must think they can get a prosecution.

I very much doubt a jail term ensues. In my professional capacity I recently dealt with a £100k+ fraud involving the VAT man. The guy had to repay the money and got 200 hours community service, that's all.

thats a completely different scenario. what happened hear is theft. will she be able to repay the 40k?

Defrauding HMRC is theft too, yes she can repay it no matter how long it takes.

Technically isn't theft though is it Dave - it's tax evasion - a completely different kettle of fish. Still at least he wasn't charged with tax avoidance, as that would have resulted in hanging, drawing and quartering. It seems to be flavour of the month, even though legal

The court will go easier on her as she is a woman - that's a fact unfortunately. Likewise whether she pleads guilty or not will have an effect on the sentence.

I'd rather take my chances nicking £100k from the VAT man than I would £40k from an organisation, not that I'm condoning that of course! But someone's head should roll for it.

[Justin Credible]

[ChrisW]

Plus when you steal from the VAT man. As soon as they realise that they kind of make up the figure you have diddled them out of themselves.

[The H]

This "ïncident" once more emphasizes the need, for any organization, to have a controller regularly check the bookkeeper's activities!

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