World Championships - Damned Lies and Statistics
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World Championships - Damned Lies and Statistics
So, as they've both just finished, and they've both been pretty successful in their different ways, a comparison of the averages for the World Championships going right back to the start. Until 2013 this list shows the average of the match averages for each tournament. From 2013 this is weighted by the number of legs.
Just a few observations - the averages would suggest that the split initially gave us two very average quality tournaments in terms of the standard of the players (good thing Sky were desperate for content!), but the BDO recovered quite quickly. 2009 was the year when the PDC version really started to show the influx of talent - that, or dart board technology really improved that year
2015 was a very good BDO year in terms of individual averages - if you take out the Prelim round then the average would be over 90, and the 3rd best recorded by the BDO since it started. All without the bullet being there! And the PDC averages just keep marching upwards - what's the limit?
None of this reflects on the quality of the matches themselves by the way!
BDO PDC
1978 80.21 -
1979 78.40 -
1980 80.64 -
1981 80.40 -
1982 79.71 -
1983 82.04 -
1984 83.86 -
1985 85.87 -
1986 84.12 -
1987 85.60 -
1988 86.43 -
1989 86.61 -
1990 84.90 -
1991 86.62 -
1992 86.53 -
1993 88.79 -
1994 83.05 84.49
1995 86.27 83.74
1996 87.69 84.56
1997 88.16 85.39
1998 89.57 84.28
1999 90.78 86.33
2000 89.12 87.09
2001 91.87 88.79
2002 89.94 89.03
2003 89.87 89.32
2004 88.94 87.42
2005 88.70 86.44
2006 87.60 87.18
2007 87.87 87.31
2008 87.15 87.02
2009 87.64 89.21
2010 87.02 89.77
2011 86.35 90.36
2012 86.90 90.08
2013 86.49 91.95
2014 86.78 92.53
2015 88.60 93.47
Just a few observations - the averages would suggest that the split initially gave us two very average quality tournaments in terms of the standard of the players (good thing Sky were desperate for content!), but the BDO recovered quite quickly. 2009 was the year when the PDC version really started to show the influx of talent - that, or dart board technology really improved that year
2015 was a very good BDO year in terms of individual averages - if you take out the Prelim round then the average would be over 90, and the 3rd best recorded by the BDO since it started. All without the bullet being there! And the PDC averages just keep marching upwards - what's the limit?
None of this reflects on the quality of the matches themselves by the way!
BDO PDC
1978 80.21 -
1979 78.40 -
1980 80.64 -
1981 80.40 -
1982 79.71 -
1983 82.04 -
1984 83.86 -
1985 85.87 -
1986 84.12 -
1987 85.60 -
1988 86.43 -
1989 86.61 -
1990 84.90 -
1991 86.62 -
1992 86.53 -
1993 88.79 -
1994 83.05 84.49
1995 86.27 83.74
1996 87.69 84.56
1997 88.16 85.39
1998 89.57 84.28
1999 90.78 86.33
2000 89.12 87.09
2001 91.87 88.79
2002 89.94 89.03
2003 89.87 89.32
2004 88.94 87.42
2005 88.70 86.44
2006 87.60 87.18
2007 87.87 87.31
2008 87.15 87.02
2009 87.64 89.21
2010 87.02 89.77
2011 86.35 90.36
2012 86.90 90.08
2013 86.49 91.95
2014 86.78 92.53
2015 88.60 93.47
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And another one - this shows the winning averages for each player who has won a world championship in all their world championships - ie every match they have won on a world championship stage. This is based on match averages. Looking at the list, dart boards have certainly improved since the 70s and 80s!
World Champions
Name Average No Matches
Phil Taylor 98.41 114
Gary Anderson 97.60 25
Michael van Gerwen 96.86 19
Adrian Lewis 96.13 34
Raymond van Barneveld 95.80 69
Les Wallace 94.08 10
Tony David 93.79 7
Stephen Bunting 92.77 13
Andy Fordham 92.60 22
Mark Webster 92.51 21
Richie Burnett 92.28 24
Ted Hankey 92.03 31
Martin Adams 91.92 52
Jelle Klaasen 91.84 10
Christian Kist 91.42 7
Scott Mitchell 91.07 7
John Part 90.84 37
John Walton 90.75 15
Dennis Priestley 90.70 40
Steve Beaton 90.67 23
Eric Bristow 89.73 55
Scott Waites 89.53 19
Bob Anderson 89.52 34
John Lowe 88.91 62
Jocky Wilson 86.76 34
Leighton Rees 85.53 9
Keith Deller 84.93 18
World Champions
Name Average No Matches
Phil Taylor 98.41 114
Gary Anderson 97.60 25
Michael van Gerwen 96.86 19
Adrian Lewis 96.13 34
Raymond van Barneveld 95.80 69
Les Wallace 94.08 10
Tony David 93.79 7
Stephen Bunting 92.77 13
Andy Fordham 92.60 22
Mark Webster 92.51 21
Richie Burnett 92.28 24
Ted Hankey 92.03 31
Martin Adams 91.92 52
Jelle Klaasen 91.84 10
Christian Kist 91.42 7
Scott Mitchell 91.07 7
John Part 90.84 37
John Walton 90.75 15
Dennis Priestley 90.70 40
Steve Beaton 90.67 23
Eric Bristow 89.73 55
Scott Waites 89.53 19
Bob Anderson 89.52 34
John Lowe 88.91 62
Jocky Wilson 86.76 34
Leighton Rees 85.53 9
Keith Deller 84.93 18
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And lastly, the winner's match averages for the tournament (to 2012, weighted by legs from 2013) for the tournament - I'm not saying that Phil Taylor is a mathematical outlier, but...
PDC 2009 Phil Taylor 105.19
PDC 2010 Phil Taylor 104.80
PDC 2006 Phil Taylor 102.35
PDC 2001 Phil Taylor 102.15
PDC 2002 Phil Taylor 101.95
PDC 2000 Phil Taylor 100.79
PDC 2015 Gary Anderson 99.81
PDC 2014 Michael van Gerwen 99.26
PDC 1998 Phil Taylor 99.16
PDC 2013 Phil Taylor 99.16
PDC 1999 Phil Taylor 99.15
PDC 2007 Raymond van Barneveld 98.26
PDC 2011 Adrian Lewis 98.07
PDC 2005 Phil Taylor 97.48
BDO 2003 Raymond van Barneveld 97.45
BDO 2005 Raymond van Barneveld 97.21
PDC 2004 Phil Taylor 97.10
BDO 2001 John Walton 97.02
PDC 1996 Phil Taylor 96.78
BDO 1999 Raymond van Barneveld 96.06
PDC 1997 Phil Taylor 95.96
BDO 1988 Bob Anderson 95.77
BDO 2004 Andy Fordham 95.42
BDO 1984 Eric Bristow 95.24
BDO 1992 Phil Taylor 95.09
BDO 1985 Eric Bristow 95.02
BDO 2010 Martin Adams 94.99
BDO 2002 Tony David 94.81
PDC 2003 John Part 94.78
BDO 1990 Phil Taylor 94.65
PDC 2012 Adrian Lewis 94.64
BDO 1997 Les Wallace 94.60
BDO 2014 Stephen Bunting 94.35
PDC 2008 John Part 94.07
BDO 1991 Dennis Priestley 94.05
BDO 1998 Raymond van Barneveld 93.85
BDO 1996 Steve Beaton 93.84
BDO 2015 Scott Mitchell 93.51
BDO 1987 John Lowe 93.41
BDO 2000 Ted Hankey 93.37
BDO 1986 Eric Bristow 92.99
BDO 2012 Christian Kist 92.42
BDO 2008 Mark Webster 92.29
BDO 2009 Ted Hankey 92.21
BDO 2007 Martin Adams 91.69
PDC 1994 Dennis Priestley 91.64
BDO 2011 Martin Adams 91.63
PDC 1995 Phil Taylor 91.34
BDO 1995 Richie Burnett 91.25
BDO 1989 Jocky Wilson 91.16
BDO 2006 Jelle Klaasen 90.10
BDO 1978 Leighton Rees 89.61
BDO 2013 Scott Waites 89.56
BDO 1981 Eric Bristow 88.40
BDO 1983 Keith Deller 87.85
BDO 1993 John Lowe 87.67
BDO 1979 John Lowe 87.17
BDO 1982 Jocky Wilson 87.10
BDO 1994 John Part 86.27
BDO 1980 Eric Bristow 85.98
PDC 2009 Phil Taylor 105.19
PDC 2010 Phil Taylor 104.80
PDC 2006 Phil Taylor 102.35
PDC 2001 Phil Taylor 102.15
PDC 2002 Phil Taylor 101.95
PDC 2000 Phil Taylor 100.79
PDC 2015 Gary Anderson 99.81
PDC 2014 Michael van Gerwen 99.26
PDC 1998 Phil Taylor 99.16
PDC 2013 Phil Taylor 99.16
PDC 1999 Phil Taylor 99.15
PDC 2007 Raymond van Barneveld 98.26
PDC 2011 Adrian Lewis 98.07
PDC 2005 Phil Taylor 97.48
BDO 2003 Raymond van Barneveld 97.45
BDO 2005 Raymond van Barneveld 97.21
PDC 2004 Phil Taylor 97.10
BDO 2001 John Walton 97.02
PDC 1996 Phil Taylor 96.78
BDO 1999 Raymond van Barneveld 96.06
PDC 1997 Phil Taylor 95.96
BDO 1988 Bob Anderson 95.77
BDO 2004 Andy Fordham 95.42
BDO 1984 Eric Bristow 95.24
BDO 1992 Phil Taylor 95.09
BDO 1985 Eric Bristow 95.02
BDO 2010 Martin Adams 94.99
BDO 2002 Tony David 94.81
PDC 2003 John Part 94.78
BDO 1990 Phil Taylor 94.65
PDC 2012 Adrian Lewis 94.64
BDO 1997 Les Wallace 94.60
BDO 2014 Stephen Bunting 94.35
PDC 2008 John Part 94.07
BDO 1991 Dennis Priestley 94.05
BDO 1998 Raymond van Barneveld 93.85
BDO 1996 Steve Beaton 93.84
BDO 2015 Scott Mitchell 93.51
BDO 1987 John Lowe 93.41
BDO 2000 Ted Hankey 93.37
BDO 1986 Eric Bristow 92.99
BDO 2012 Christian Kist 92.42
BDO 2008 Mark Webster 92.29
BDO 2009 Ted Hankey 92.21
BDO 2007 Martin Adams 91.69
PDC 1994 Dennis Priestley 91.64
BDO 2011 Martin Adams 91.63
PDC 1995 Phil Taylor 91.34
BDO 1995 Richie Burnett 91.25
BDO 1989 Jocky Wilson 91.16
BDO 2006 Jelle Klaasen 90.10
BDO 1978 Leighton Rees 89.61
BDO 2013 Scott Waites 89.56
BDO 1981 Eric Bristow 88.40
BDO 1983 Keith Deller 87.85
BDO 1993 John Lowe 87.67
BDO 1979 John Lowe 87.17
BDO 1982 Jocky Wilson 87.10
BDO 1994 John Part 86.27
BDO 1980 Eric Bristow 85.98
Re: World Championships - Damned Lies and Statistics
I suspect that improvement on the PDC side would show up quite a bit earlier if the data was limited to the last 32 onward.Addicks Fan wrote:2009 was the year when the PDC version really started to show the influx of talent - that, or dart board technology really improved that year
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It probably would, but this is comparing the quality (in terms of averages at least) of the tournament rather than the individual quality of the players. PDC started expanding the tournament in 2005 - maybe they went a bit early? I suppose they wanted to demonstrate their ambition though, which is fair enough.Zeyes wrote:I suspect that improvement on the PDC side would show up quite a bit earlier if the data was limited to the last 32 onward.Addicks Fan wrote:2009 was the year when the PDC version really started to show the influx of talent - that, or dart board technology really improved that year
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There seems to be more of a case of stagnation with the BDO averages.
You will find the spread of averages a lot less within the BDO world Champs upto the PDC ones.
For example and this is very loose if you were in either world championship and threw the tournament average in your games how far would you get ?
In the BDO it's quite possible that you would be a finalist or a possible winner with their mid 80's average.
In the PDC you would not now or even recently get a sniff of being passed an early round with a mid 80's average.
You will find the spread of averages a lot less within the BDO world Champs upto the PDC ones.
For example and this is very loose if you were in either world championship and threw the tournament average in your games how far would you get ?
In the BDO it's quite possible that you would be a finalist or a possible winner with their mid 80's average.
In the PDC you would not now or even recently get a sniff of being passed an early round with a mid 80's average.
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I think Prelim round averages should be excluded as BDO was over 90 after that and PDC 93
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Certainly the semi-finals - how did Richie George manage it? I don't think the final though - you would get found out along the way. I can't think of a Lakeside finalist who hadn't been throwing 90+ at least up until that point. Well, not this millennium anyway.el_ringo wrote:There seems to be more of a case of stagnation with the BDO averages.
You will find the spread of averages a lot less within the BDO world Champs upto the PDC ones.
For example and this is very loose if you were in either world championship and threw the tournament average in your games how far would you get ?
In the BDO it's quite possible that you would be a finalist or a possible winner with their mid 80's average.
In the PDC you would not now or even recently get a sniff of being passed an early round with a mid 80's average.
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The eclipse dartboard was released in 2007.
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The one with the magnet in the treble 20 bed?
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I hit back to back 180's twice at Q school and twice it was done against me, in 5 games!!!, just saying..............Rudy wrote:The one with the magnet in the treble 20 bed?
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Thinking about it, isn't tungsten non ferrous?ifm wrote:I hit back to back 180's twice at Q school and twice it was done against me, in 5 games!!!, just saying..............Rudy wrote:The one with the magnet in the treble 20 bed?
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Ferrous means containing iron you must of meant ferromagnetic.ifm wrote:Thinking about it, isn't tungsten non ferrous?ifm wrote:I hit back to back 180's twice at Q school and twice it was done against me, in 5 games!!!, just saying..............Rudy wrote:The one with the magnet in the treble 20 bed?
Nickel which is added to Tungsten to make darts is
Don't know if you ever saw the mythbusters about Bonds watch and it magnetically deflecting bullets as if you did you would need a near on room sized electromagnet working to ensure darts went in the T20.
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Ahhh but the speed of a tungsten dart is around 6 m/sel_ringo wrote:Ferrous means containing iron you must of meant ferromagnetic.
Nickel which is added to Tungsten to make darts is
Don't know if you ever saw the mythbusters about Bonds watch and it magnetically deflecting bullets as if you did you would need a near on room sized electromagnet working to ensure darts went in the T20.
A bullet travels at 1,200 to 1,700 m/s.
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Me?el_ringo wrote:Ferrous means containing iron you must of meant ferromagnetic.ifm wrote:Thinking about it, isn't tungsten non ferrous?ifm wrote:I hit back to back 180's twice at Q school and twice it was done against me, in 5 games!!!, just saying..............Rudy wrote:The one with the magnet in the treble 20 bed?
Nickel which is added to Tungsten to make darts is
Don't know if you ever saw the mythbusters about Bonds watch and it magnetically deflecting bullets as if you did you would need a near on room sized electromagnet working to ensure darts went in the T20.
I meant non ferrous.
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You did but non ferrous doesn't mean not magnetic It means it doesn't contain Iron.ifm wrote: Me?
I meant non ferrous.
Hence the phrase when referring to a magnetic dartboard would be non ferromagnetic.
as a few non ferrous metals are magnetic as nickel is non ferrous but magnetic.
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So you are saying tungsten is ferrous?el_ringo wrote:You did but non ferrous doesn't mean not magnetic It means it doesn't contain Iron.ifm wrote: Me?
I meant non ferrous.
Hence the phrase when referring to a magnetic dartboard would be non ferromagnetic.
as a few non ferrous metals are magnetic as nickel is non ferrous but magnetic.
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No it is neither ferrous or ferromagneticifm wrote: So you are saying tungsten is ferrous?
Nickel which is added to Tungsten in darts isn't ferrous but it is ferromagnetic.
I have typed this very slowly as you seem to be having a problem understanding and this may help
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OK you win, I have worked with all sorts of exotic metals most of my adult life and I did think non ferrous meant non magnetic, that said I did know tungsten was not magnetic and as it happens 5 or 10% nickel is not going to have any effect on magnetism of darts.el_ringo wrote:No it is neither ferrous or ferromagneticifm wrote: So you are saying tungsten is ferrous?
Nickel which is added to Tungsten in darts isn't ferrous but it is ferromagnetic.
I have typed this very slowly as you seem to be having a problem understanding and this may help
In fact we work with materials that contain up to 50% nickel and a magnet would fall off it.
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el_ringo wrote:Ferrous means containing iron you must of meant ferromagnetic.ifm wrote:Thinking about it, isn't tungsten non ferrous?ifm wrote:I hit back to back 180's twice at Q school and twice it was done against me, in 5 games!!!, just saying..............Rudy wrote:The one with the magnet in the treble 20 bed?
Nickel which is added to Tungsten to make darts is
Don't know if you ever saw the mythbusters about Bonds watch and it magnetically deflecting bullets as if you did you would need a near on room sized electromagnet working to ensure darts went in the T20.
Absolute crap Ringo ! It's well known Wolfies fits into his bumbag