Was the WDT a success or failure

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was the 2016 WDT a success or failure

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trotter wrote:Ahh yes...I remember those excuses now...to be honest he could just copy and paste the same excuses for every event he's ever put on whatever the channel ☺
Yup its always someone elses fault. Just like how it was the fault of forums (and the venue having the sheer nerve to ask for the money for extra days rental) that the 2016 WDT had to move to Lakeside. :WWWW:
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As for Dave next weekend:

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Ginge wrote:
trotter wrote:Ahh yes...I remember those excuses now...to be honest he could just copy and paste the same excuses for every event he's ever put on whatever the channel Image
Yup its always someone elses fault. Just like how it was the fault of forums (and the venue having the sheer nerve to ask for the money for extra days rental) that the 2016 WDT had to move to Lakeside. :WWWW:
I can't think why forums get the blame for trying to influence what happens to darts tournaments.

On a completely unrelated note, I'm just off to tweet frontrunner to ask them if they will reconsider showing the greyhound racing as I've found out one of the dogs owners once laughed at the film 'this is england'.
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Ginge wrote:As for Dave next weekend:

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Can you screenshot BBC2 please my EPG is playing up, thanks.
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Dave deciding that re-runs of Top Gear and repeats of films made 48 years ago are more worthy than showing regulation darts...
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ifm wrote:
Ginge wrote:As for Dave next weekend:

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Can you screenshot BBC2 please my EPG is playing up, thanks.
Your EPG goes further than 7 days into the future? What box do you have?
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Short term it was a success. Long term it hasn't. Just created extra pressure on the board to deliver a 3rd TV event.

The players of course win some money. We're that money come from is a different matter.
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devosteve wrote:Short term it was a success. Long term it hasn't. Just created extra pressure on the board to deliver a 3rd TV event.

The players of course win some money. We're that money come from is a different matter.
Devon answering a different question there just so he can troll......1/10
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trotter wrote:It surely cannot be on Dave now at this short notice...Chris Mason hadn't even heard any rumours of TV coverage this time..and he had done last year....
It cannot be on a proper channel. ..a proper channel would not accept a Battersby production as meeting quality threshold....Premier Sports is niche but does show major good quality broadcasts....surely a Battersby production wouldn't meet their standards even ?....which sort of leaves Frontrunner or streaming...can't see any other option now.
a proper channel would not accept a battersby production, thats strange because both bbc & the sky show content produced so shome mishsteak shureley on your part or are they not proper channels ?
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only85 wrote:
trotter wrote:It surely cannot be on Dave now at this short notice...Chris Mason hadn't even heard any rumours of TV coverage this time..and he had done last year....
It cannot be on a proper channel. ..a proper channel would not accept a Battersby production as meeting quality threshold....Premier Sports is niche but does show major good quality broadcasts....surely a Battersby production wouldn't meet their standards even ?....which sort of leaves Frontrunner or streaming...can't see any other option now.
a proper channel would not accept a battersby production, thats strange because both bbc & the sky show content produced so shome mishsteak shureley on your part or are they not proper channels ?
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TheSandman wrote:It was a success, well done Dave for copying itv rather than bbc, and taking bdo darts out of the 80s and into 2016.

Hopefully viewing figures are enough that Dave shows future tournaments
Any luck?
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Ginge wrote:
TheSandman wrote:It was a success, well done Dave for copying itv rather than bbc, and taking bdo darts out of the 80s and into 2016.

Hopefully viewing figures are enough that Dave shows future tournaments
Any luck?
The future is a very long time ;-)
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I think we can safely say that last years coverage was a Frank Warren-inspired fluke.

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Ginge wrote:I think we can safely say that last years coverage was a Frank Warren-inspired fluke.

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We don't even know if Frank Warren knew anything about it.
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ifm wrote:
Ginge wrote:I think we can safely say that last years coverage was a Frank Warren-inspired fluke.

"Queensbury Arrows"
We don't even know if Frank Warren knew anything about it.
He is the one who brokered it. You need better sources ;)
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Ginge wrote:
ifm wrote:
Ginge wrote:I think we can safely say that last years coverage was a Frank Warren-inspired fluke.

"Queensbury Arrows"
We don't even know if Frank Warren knew anything about it.
He is the one who brokered it. You need better sources ;)
I have only ever heard him mentioned on here and we know there is more guessing than fact on here.
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Re: Was the WDT a success or failure

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succes. good darts. its tvs faults that it didnt do well should of promoted better. lakey drew millions on bbc more than circus did.
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DavidOwen67 wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:24 pm Rout bringing out "the PDC bubble will burst" quote again.

As I've said here many times before. PDC/Hearn/Sky have got the TV darts market sewn up. They've got the market presence, they have the ticket sales, they have slick TV coverage. They sell out huge arenas with thousands of seats.

That ship has sailed for the BDO, the TV deals were disappearing over the horizon in 1993 when the split occurred, it's the main reason FOR the split. TV tournaments mean bigger prize money because of commercial sponsorship.

With one or two minor exceptions the BDO has only had Lakeside and occasionally the Masters on TV for 20 years. In that 20 years Hearn cornered the market with the Matchplay, Las Vegas, WGP, UK Open and the Worlds and latterly the Euro events, Players Champs and now the World Series and the now Champions League on BBC.

The BDO should stick to what they are the masters of, County, Superleague, Opens. Don't try and compete with the arenas singing "stand up if you love the darts", that isn't their marketplace.

Hearn has fostered commercial relationships, latterly with a lot of the betting companies but he has got those sponsors on board and covered prize-funds etc. The ticket sales from the PL alone cover the ProTour prize funds and much more besides. The PDC has got the TV market cornered. The BDO struggled to find ONE sponsor for 3 full days of coverage for a free-to-air televised event.

Let Hearn run his side of things as he sees fit, don't try and copy that model the opposition is too dominant now.

Stick to the basics of grassroots darts, superleague, county and things like the WDF World Cup. There's demand out there from players, but not from TV companies, sponsors and ticket-buying members of the public.
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