mc1958 wrote:If he turned up to the qualifiers and got knocked out then would he have still been able to be invited if Ratajski declines his invite? Maybe he was advised not to play the qualifiers just in case he lost and a place did suddenly become available.
The rules quoted above state that if the Masters winner is already qualified then the place would be offered to the next in line until 22 additional players have been invited from the main table - Robbo would have been the 23rd. This could explain why Ratajski is down as Masters winner and the Eastern European spot was given to the second placed man.
Good point, you cannot enter twice, if he lost in the qualifiers he couldn't take up a spot.
Good shout.
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Shite. Lakeside needs talent like Jeff. The system isn't fair to him. Should try the PDC again
oche balboa@OcheBalboa1
Their is a canadian table. Jeff finished 2nd its tougher in PDC if he didnt move
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
problem is I can get through Canadian table our events are being held during majors.Ive missed 4 playing here. I won the actual rankings #1
Chris Reddy@redmeister81
It's a joke Jeff. @BDOdarts should give you a wildcard. The World finals should have the best and its not due to the system.
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
Its not their fault,Canada doesn't and wont do whats best for their players. They are happy with how it is and wont change unless forced
At least he wont have that issue for the next 12 months....
mc1958 wrote:If he turned up to the qualifiers and got knocked out then would he have still been able to be invited if Ratajski declines his invite? Maybe he was advised not to play the qualifiers just in case he lost and a place did suddenly become available.
The rules quoted above state that if the Masters winner is already qualified then the place would be offered to the next in line until 22 additional players have been invited from the main table - Robbo would have been the 23rd. This could explain why Ratajski is down as Masters winner and the Eastern European spot was given to the second placed man.
Good point, you cannot enter twice, if he lost in the qualifiers he couldn't take up a spot.
Good shout.
mc1958 wrote:If he turned up to the qualifiers and got knocked out then would he have still been able to be invited if Ratajski declines his invite? Maybe he was advised not to play the qualifiers just in case he lost and a place did suddenly become available.
The rules quoted above state that if the Masters winner is already qualified then the place would be offered to the next in line until 22 additional players have been invited from the main table - Robbo would have been the 23rd. This could explain why Ratajski is down as Masters winner and the Eastern European spot was given to the second placed man.
Good point, you cannot enter twice, if he lost in the qualifiers he couldn't take up a spot.
Good shout.
Yeah didn't see that.
Crazy that is, how can someone be allowed to play in a competition they have already been knocked out of?
Absolute crap.
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mc1958 wrote:If he turned up to the qualifiers and got knocked out then would he have still been able to be invited if Ratajski declines his invite? Maybe he was advised not to play the qualifiers just in case he lost and a place did suddenly become available.
The rules quoted above state that if the Masters winner is already qualified then the place would be offered to the next in line until 22 additional players have been invited from the main table - Robbo would have been the 23rd. This could explain why Ratajski is down as Masters winner and the Eastern European spot was given to the second placed man.
Good point, you cannot enter twice, if he lost in the qualifiers he couldn't take up a spot.
Good shout.
Yeah didn't see that.
Crazy that is, how can someone be allowed to play in a competition they have already been knocked out of?
Absolute crap.
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Well you have to have a standby list, lets say one of the International players cant get a visa, the rules say you go to the Main Table to fill the spot but the next 200 players all played in the Bridlington qualifier and lost.
mc1958 wrote:If he turned up to the qualifiers and got knocked out then would he have still been able to be invited if Ratajski declines his invite? Maybe he was advised not to play the qualifiers just in case he lost and a place did suddenly become available.
The rules quoted above state that if the Masters winner is already qualified then the place would be offered to the next in line until 22 additional players have been invited from the main table - Robbo would have been the 23rd. This could explain why Ratajski is down as Masters winner and the Eastern European spot was given to the second placed man.
Robbo would have actually been the 21st, he is 26th in the main list with FIVE exempt players in front of him (Durrant, Fitton, Hughes, Waites, Mitchell).
As for being ineligible if he played the qualifiers and lost - well in the days when the qualifier was held before the end of the season you had player who qualified through the table still playing in the qualifier, losing, and getting in. So it wont be for that reason.
Sam Hewson played in the qualifier and lost the year he got a late call up the other year.
I don't think Waites and Mitchell as winners in the past 3 years would affect the application of the direct invites under clause 2.01 - that says the semi finalists the previous year, then up to the next 22 spots in the main table. The previous winners don't get mentioned until 2.02 which could affect how many spots are available via the qualifiers.
mc1958 wrote:If he turned up to the qualifiers and got knocked out then would he have still been able to be invited if Ratajski declines his invite? Maybe he was advised not to play the qualifiers just in case he lost and a place did suddenly become available.
The rules quoted above state that if the Masters winner is already qualified then the place would be offered to the next in line until 22 additional players have been invited from the main table - Robbo would have been the 23rd. This could explain why Ratajski is down as Masters winner and the Eastern European spot was given to the second placed man.
Robbo would have actually been the 21st, he is 26th in the main list with FIVE exempt players in front of him (Durrant, Fitton, Hughes, Waites, Mitchell).
As for being ineligible if he played the qualifiers and lost - well in the days when the qualifier was held before the end of the season you had player who qualified through the table still playing in the qualifier, losing, and getting in. So it wont be for that reason.
Sam Hewson played in the qualifier and lost the year he got a late call up the other year.
I don't think Waites and Mitchell as winners in the past 3 years would affect the application of the direct invites under clause 2.01 - that says the semi finalists the previous year, then up to the next 22 spots in the main table. The previous winners don't get mentioned until 2.02 which could affect how many spots are available via the qualifiers.
Ginge wrote:On a different tangent, Jeff isnt bitter...
Chris Reddy@redmeister81
Shite. Lakeside needs talent like Jeff. The system isn't fair to him. Should try the PDC again
oche balboa@OcheBalboa1
Their is a canadian table. Jeff finished 2nd its tougher in PDC if he didnt move
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
problem is I can get through Canadian table our events are being held during majors.Ive missed 4 playing here. I won the actual rankings #1
Chris Reddy@redmeister81
It's a joke Jeff. @BDOdarts should give you a wildcard. The World finals should have the best and its not due to the system.
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
Its not their fault,Canada doesn't and wont do whats best for their players. They are happy with how it is and wont change unless forced
At least he wont have that issue for the next 12 months....
Very odd how fans latch on to some players and not others. He's played in three Worlds, not as if he's played for a decade. Wild card? Amazing.
Jeff and the Canadian table winner Cameron played in the same 6 events, and Cameron wins the head to head of those events 3-2.
Also of the 4 other events, only ONE clashed with a BDO major event so him missing the other 3 was his own choice, Im failing to have much sympathy for him really.
Ginge wrote:On a different tangent, Jeff isnt bitter...
Chris Reddy@redmeister81
Shite. Lakeside needs talent like Jeff. The system isn't fair to him. Should try the PDC again
oche balboa@OcheBalboa1
Their is a canadian table. Jeff finished 2nd its tougher in PDC if he didnt move
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
problem is I can get through Canadian table our events are being held during majors.Ive missed 4 playing here. I won the actual rankings #1
Chris Reddy@redmeister81
It's a joke Jeff. @BDOdarts should give you a wildcard. The World finals should have the best and its not due to the system.
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
Its not their fault,Canada doesn't and wont do whats best for their players. They are happy with how it is and wont change unless forced
At least he wont have that issue for the next 12 months....
He has a point, he had to choose either qualifying as his national number 1 or give the major events a go and hope he does well in them.
Still dont see why hes going down the PDC route though unless hes moving over here, he gave up trying to enter events last time.
Ginge wrote:On a different tangent, Jeff isnt bitter...
Chris Reddy@redmeister81
Shite. Lakeside needs talent like Jeff. The system isn't fair to him. Should try the PDC again
oche balboa@OcheBalboa1
Their is a canadian table. Jeff finished 2nd its tougher in PDC if he didnt move
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
problem is I can get through Canadian table our events are being held during majors.Ive missed 4 playing here. I won the actual rankings #1
Chris Reddy@redmeister81
It's a joke Jeff. @BDOdarts should give you a wildcard. The World finals should have the best and its not due to the system.
Jeff Smith@TheSilencer170
Its not their fault,Canada doesn't and wont do whats best for their players. They are happy with how it is and wont change unless forced
At least he wont have that issue for the next 12 months....
He has a point, he had to choose either qualifying as his national number 1 or give the major events a go and hope he does well in them.
Still dont see why hes going down the PDC route though unless hes moving over here, he gave up trying to enter events last time.
See my other post about these so called events that clashed...
