Isle of Man Darts Festival 9-12 March 2017, Douglas.

[oche balboa]

Winmau do a good job

[Ginge]

Winmau do a good job of stealing other peoples streams and passing them off as their own, claiming all the credit in the process

Aye.

[BlueSpark]

Winmau do a good job of stealing other peoples streams and passing them off as their own, claiming all the credit in the process

Aye.

[markymark]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

[Rout]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

Fuck off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

[Mgt]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

[Rout]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

[WCDPA]

For the record the German Open venue has been changed today something to do with fire regs etc on the BDO website .

[Ginge]

For the record the German Open venue has been changed today something to do with fire regs etc on the BDO website .

Wonder where they went for the tent? Is Blacks still open?

[WCDPA]

For the record the German Open venue has been changed today something to do with fire regs etc on the BDO website .

Wonder where they went for the tent? Is Blacks still open?

Wonder if anybody gives the Germans stick like EDO get for the marquee at Selsey ?

[BlueSpark]

For the record the German Open venue has been changed today something to do with fire regs etc on the BDO website .

Wonder where they went for the tent? Is Blacks still open?

[Mgt]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

[only85]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

especially when they would certainly get slagged off on here & have all there judgements & decisions questioned by people on here , ringing up venues as a way of occupying there time & filling there empty lives, theres nothing wrong with constructive criticism but thats in short supply, its enough to put any sane person off wanting to make an effort really

[ssjsa]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

This is a good post, and one which I completely agree with. The current BDO board are probably full of good intentions and are genuinely trying to make a success of their organisation.

However their competence to run that business is the issue, and one which unfortunately, can only be resolved by them stepping aside and allowing proper business executives to run the organisation in a professional manner.

For me, their credibility is shot. We have had a board member visit the home and workplace of forum administrators, and been shafted by a charlatan calked Warren Brown, due to a complete lack of due diligence, before entrusting him to be the custodian of both their product and reputation.

[Ginge]

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

especially when they would certainly get slagged off on here & have all there judgements & decisions questioned by people on here , ringing up venues as a way of occupying there time & filling there empty lives, theres nothing wrong with constructive criticism but thats in short supply, its enough to put any sane person off wanting to make an effort really

Are you actually ok?

[Mgt]

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

especially when they would certainly get slagged off on here & have all there judgements & decisions questioned by people on here , ringing up venues as a way of occupying there time & filling there empty lives, theres nothing wrong with constructive criticism but thats in short supply, its enough to put any sane person off wanting to make an effort really

Do you really think forums, or Facebook groups for that matter, have such an impact? I doubt it, every football manager, player or director would have gone stark raving mad by now if that were the case.

[Ginge]

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

especially when they would certainly get slagged off on here & have all there judgements & decisions questioned by people on here , ringing up venues as a way of occupying there time & filling there empty lives, theres nothing wrong with constructive criticism but thats in short supply, its enough to put any sane person off wanting to make an effort really

Do you really think forums, or Facebook groups for that matter, have such an impact? I doubt it, every football manager, player or director would have gone stark raving mad by now if that were the case.

No no no no forums are to blame for everything, Auntie Sue blamed them first for the WDT having to be moved from Manchester last year before actually revealing the real proper reasons later on in the letter she sent out

[Rout]

Ross does seem to think that you can just rip any old international footage from YouTube and use that to promote this event. Not sure he realises how lucky he is that he and his team mates are on telly at all this weekend.

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

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[Mgt]

People like him are massive part of the problem.

Never, ever stops moaning. But what do they do about it?

fek off to the pdc if you don't like it. If you don't want to, don't swan around like you expect to be treat like darting royalty because you think you are one of the 'names'. Maybe think about being pro active about encouraging or forcing change. Why don't the players get together and form a proper union with some influence to collectively speak up and positively encourage changes.

A total ego maniac that guy.

I believe they did something similar in 1992....

It's not rebellion. It just needs the gap bridging between the players and the board. At the moment that gap is far too big and the communication is none existent.

The stalwarts should do more pro actively to force a change there. If they all participated in being a collective voice, it means when you are knocking on the door for answers the knock can't be ignored.

Instead they choose whinging in Facebook.

I don't know whether it would make a lot of difference with this board though. I've got the feeling they try to make things work, but are just really incompetent. Being pressured by the players won't magically hand them the skills and know how to do their job properly.

Imo what the BDO needs is this board to realise they're in over their heads, step down, and an experienced and capable management to step in. I wouldn't for the life of me know who should do it and why they'd bother though.

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So how would a players union help? I doubt the likes of Addams, O'Shea, Montgomery or Fitton (despite the best intentions) would have anything useful to add to the governing of the BDO, nor do I think they move in the same social circles as suave businessmen and capable managers. Imo it would just be adding more people who haven't got a clue what should be done.

[Ginge]

Adams has been there and done that anyway, doubt he wants to do it again.