2017 Averages - PDC, BDO and Both

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2017 Averages - PDC, BDO and Both

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Similar to last year, the list contains the top 64 players averaging over 85 who have played at least 20 legs with averages available - these are posted by PDC on twitter, Live darts data, Darts for Windows, The Red Bit (for PCs) and failing that, myself from streams. Not completely comprehensive by any means, but captures most of what's readily available. Match averages weighted by number of legs.

Only ranking events, UK Open, Grand Slam and county included for BDO averages, PDC players limited to PDC events, excluding Premier League. BDO players in red, those who have averages available from both sides in blue:

Org Name Average 2016 Legs Matches 100+ Ave High Ave High Ave Match
1 PDC Michael van Gerwen 104.29 102.99 261 28 21 114.05 PC9 L16
2 PDC Gary Anderson 104.06 99.53 113 8 6 115.15 PC2 Final
3 PDC Phil Taylor 100.77 100.6 51 3 2 104.8 Masters L16
4 PDC Raymond van Barneveld 98.91 98.64 164 13 5 108.1 UK Open QF
5 PDC Peter Wright 98.76 98.96 368 36 13 110.88 UK Open QF
6 BDO Glen Durrant 97.93 93.77 72 9 3 108.07 Denmark Masters SF
7 PDC Dave Chisnall 97.47 97.33 140 14 4 112.25 European Darts Grand Prix L32
8 PDC Mensur Suljovic 97.42 96.75 210 22 8 107.3 PC7 L64
9 PDC Rob Cross 97.03 - 175 19 4 112.36 PC12 SF
10 PDC Daryl Gurney 96.87 94.54 216 20 4 107.94 PC8 Final
11 PDC Adrian Lewis 96.77 95.18 153 12 3 104.77 Masters QF
12 PDC Ian White 96.3 94 160 15 5 106.55 German Darts Open L16
13 PDC Simon Whitlock 96.19 94.21 160 15 2 102.21 Gibraltar Darts Trophy L32
14 PDC Michael Smith 96.13 93.87 154 15 2 101.88 European Darts Grand Prix L32
15 PDC Mervyn King 96.08 93.8 101 10 1 102.02 German Darts Champ L32
16 PDC Joe Cullen 95.27 93.39 140 13 3 101.21 European Darts Grand Prix L16
17 PDC Kim Huybrechts 95.06 95.12 171 16 1 110.29 UK Open L32
18 PDC Gerwyn Price 94.84 90.05 243 22 2 101.26 UK Open L16
19 PDC Darren Johnson 94.33 87.34 69 8 0 99.33 Gibraltar Darts Trophy QF
20 PDC Benito van de Pas 94.16 94.50 163 17 3 110.46 German Darts Open Final
21 PDC Darren Webster 94.04 93.52 38 4 0 97.15 German Darts Open Prelim
22 BDO Danny Noppert 93.75 93.48 34 3 0 97.26 Welsh Open SF
23 PDC Cristo Reyes 93.38 93.82 93 10 0 97.24 German Darts Open L32
24 PDC Jelle Klaasen 92.99 95.32 200 21 2 103.8 PC2 QF
25 PDC Kyle Anderson 92.91 93.60 47 5 0 98.53 German Darts Masters L16
26 PDC Jan Dekker 92.8 85.47 60 7 1 108.12 European Darts Grand Prix Prelim
27 PDC Steve West 92.68 90.96 77 8 1 100.62 European Darts Grand Prix L16
28 PDC Robert Thornton 92.47 89.87 78 7 0 95.49 Masters QF
29 BDO Wesley Harms 92.44 86.48 64 7 1 100.77 World Trophy L32
30 BDO Paul Hogan 92.27 87.63 99 11 1 102.86 British Internationals RR2

31 PDC Ted Evetts 92.26 90.86 40 4 0 98.81 German Darts Masters Prelim
32 BDO Peter Machin 92.22 87.06 61 5 1 100.28 World Trophy QF
33 PDC James Wade 92.21 94.59 139 13 0 98.46 German Darts Champ L32
34 PDC Dimitri van den Bergh 92.11 90.53 89 10 0 98 Gibraltar Darts Trophy L16
35 PDC Ryan Searle 92.07 - 28 3 0 97.11 PC11 L128
36 BDO Darius Labanauskas 92.06 89.10 36 4 0 95.18 World Trophy L32
37 PDC Ronny Huybrechts 91.97 88.82 36 4 1 100.62 German Darts Open L32
38 PDC Alan Norris 91.96 93.64 146 12 1 101.97 PC8 L64
39 PDC Paul Harvey 91.93 83.84 20 2 1 102.78 German Darts Champ Prelim
40 PDC Mark Webster 91.86 92.35 76 8 1 100.16 PC7 L64
41 PDC David Pallett 91.77 91.07 31 3 0 99.91 German Darts Champ Prelim
42 PDC Alan Tabern 91.66 - 37 3 0 98.71 Gibraltar Darts Trophy L32
43 PDC Stephen Bunting 91.64 93.20 80 10 1 100.74 German Darts Masters L16
44 PDC Steve Beaton 91.6 92.57 25 3 0 99.29 Gibraltar Darts Trophy Prelim
45 PDC Jonny Clayton 91.28 92.69 77 8 0 98.09 German Darts Masters L32
46 PDC Jermaine Wattimena 91.28 89.39 25 3 1 102.21 German Darts Champ Prelim
47 BDO Scott Waites 91.19 87.95 28 3 0 95.55 Welsh Open SF
48 Both Krzysztof Ratajski 91.02 87.68 97 11 0 99.52 European Darts Grand Prix Prelim
49 BDO Martin Adams 90.98 87.67 63 9 0 96.71 World Trophy QF
50 PDC Peter Hudson 90.87 86.67 20 2 0 92.04 PC5 L128
51 BDO Kyle McKinstry 90.78 - 38 4 0 98.43 Isle of Man Classic QF
52 BDO Scott Mitchell 90.64 90.24 100 15 1 101.68 Denmark Open Final

53 PDC Jamie Bain 90.62 - 38 4 1 101.53 German Darts Champ Prelim
54 PDC James Richardson 90.47 89.73 85 9 0 97.96 European Darts Grand Prix L32
55 BDO Cameron Menzies 90.42 83.39 63 10 2 102.8 County 21 Jan
56 PDC Vincent van der Voort 90.35 93.41 73 6 0 94.54 UK Open R2
57 BDO Jamie Hughes 90.14 90.48 77 12 1 105.86 British Internationals RR2
58 PDC Adam Hunt 89.98 - 44 5 0 95.31 German Darts Champ Prelim
59 PDC Chris Dobey 89.96 92.65 47 4 0 95.37 German Darts Champ Prelim
60 PDC James Wilson 89.94 92.61 65 7 0 93.37 UK Open R2
61 BDO Alan Soutar 89.73 91.67 25 5 0 97.89 County 05 Mar
62 PDC Max Hopp 89.69 88.66 45 5 0 97.27 German Darts Masters Prelim
63 PDC Magnus Caris 89.56 83.43 33 4 0 95.59 Gibraltar Darts Trophy L32
64 PDC Matt Clark 89.48 - 39 4 0 95.65 European Darts Grand Prix L32
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Paul Hogan shouldn't be in blue ?
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Chambord wrote:Paul Hogan shouldn't be in blue ?
No. He qualified for the UK Open as an "amateur"
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oche balboa wrote:
Chambord wrote:Paul Hogan shouldn't be in blue ?
No. He qualified for the UK Open as an "amateur"
The OP says: "those who have averages available from both sides in blue". So it shouldn't matter how he qualified.
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Chambord wrote:Paul Hogan shouldn't be in blue ?
Ranking events, he got no ranking points as an "amateur" qualifier.
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That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
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GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
Well done for stating the obvious post of the year

Not actually sure anyone would argue the opposite
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Basgooner wrote:
GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
Well done for stating the obvious post of the year

Not actually sure anyone would argue the opposite
Ive been on darts forums for ten years, and this still hasn't sunk in with them yet.
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Rout wrote:
Basgooner wrote:
GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
Well done for stating the obvious post of the year

Not actually sure anyone would argue the opposite
Ive been on darts forums for ten years, and this still hasn't sunk in with them yet.
I think they are arguing with themselves lol
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Averages mean nothing. Waites showed BDO players were as good as top Pdc players in Grand Slam the other year. Nothing between top players other than Taylor and Van Gerwen
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Astonvilla wrote:Averages mean nothing. Waites showed BDO players were as good as top Pdc players in Grand Slam the other year. Nothing between top players other than Taylor and Van Gerwen
Please stop trying to talk sense
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GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO

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Astonvilla wrote:Averages mean nothing. Waites showed BDO players were as good as top Pdc players in Grand Slam the other year. Nothing between top players other than Taylor and Van Gerwen
You got a whoosh from the Pirate for this post, well played.
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GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
Or that there is an equipment advantage.
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Still don't understand how James Wade gets away with a 92 average.
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Rout wrote:
Basgooner wrote:
GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
Well done for stating the obvious post of the year

Not actually sure anyone would argue the opposite
Ive been on darts forums for ten years, and this still hasn't sunk in with them yet.
Says Digital Caliper man.
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Murphio wrote:
Rout wrote:
Basgooner wrote:
GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
Well done for stating the obvious post of the year

Not actually sure anyone would argue the opposite
Ive been on darts forums for ten years, and this still hasn't sunk in with them yet.
Says Digital Caliper man.
You think I used digital callipers to prove the bdo has a higher standard than the pdc?
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GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO


"Basgooner wrote
Well done for stating the obvious post of the year

Not actually sure anyone would argue the opposite

Basgooner wrote:
Astonvilla wrote:Averages mean nothing. Waites showed BDO players were as good as top Pdc players in Grand Slam the other year. Nothing between top players other than Taylor and Van Gerwen
Please stop trying to talk sense
Contradicting yourself with these two posts. ;-)
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Rout wrote:
Murphio wrote:
Rout wrote:
Basgooner wrote:
GRAYISALEGEND wrote:That proves PDC is better standard than BDO
Well done for stating the obvious post of the year

Not actually sure anyone would argue the opposite
Ive been on darts forums for ten years, and this still hasn't sunk in with them yet.
Says Digital Caliper man.
You think I used digital callipers to prove the bdo has a higher standard than the pdc?
Nope. I think you used them to prove the difference in averages could be explained by equipment. The notion that for 10 years there has been a general acceptance that the standard in the PDC is better than the BDO is laughable. You have denied stating Tayor was the only difference between the codes but I have certainly seen you arguing similar.
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What part of that post was basgooner trying to argue that the pdc is not generally of a higher standard than the bdo?

Looks to me to be a post that states averages can be misleading whilst acknowledging the very best players reside in the pdc.

All you've done is prove the point about fanboys arguing with themselves on the matter.
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