FrontRunner pulled from Freeview and Freesat

[malcy93]

Thought others would be interested as the BDO fans see FrontRunner as their TV saviours.
After being pulled from Freeview / Youview it has now also been removed from Freesat.

Here's their press release saying they will be only on Sky whilst they consider other options.
http://www.a516digital.com/2017/06/fron ... -from.html

So if they go streaming rather than TV why pay when you can stream for free on YouTube.

[Ginge]

Freesat as well? Oh dear

[ifm]

Man walks on moon.

[Skewball]

its only 2 days old news and needs is own thread. I had not realised that on Saturday. Not everyone, unlike yourself Ian, are obsessed with looking here every day.

[ifm]

its only 2 days old news and needs is own thread. I had not realised that on Saturday. Not everyone, unlike yourself Ian, are obsessed with looking here every day.

Yet now you are and it's plastered over multiple threads, why we need another BDO/EDO pisstaking thread i don't know after all ssja is clamping down on the trolling................

[Skewball]

its only 2 days old news and needs is own thread. I had not realised that on Saturday. Not everyone, unlike yourself Ian, are obsessed with looking here every day.

Yet now you are and it's plastered over multiple threads, why we need another BDO/EDO pisstaking thread i don't know after all ssja is clamping down on the trolling................

pisstaking thread? If you say so.

[markymark]

How much sport, that a large enough people want to see, is not already shown on the main FTA channels, or Sky, BT, Eurosport and even Premier?

[malcy93]

Well I was only here for a couple of hours at the weekend so don't have time to trawl all the BDO threads. I saw this on some of the TV forums I subscribe to.

Has someone else posted the link I have ? Shows FrontRunner is now only on Sky.

I can understand them going off Freeview as even on the cheap temporary multiplex they moved to recently it still costs serious money.

Freesat is more surprising as they still have the satellite transmission costs so going off Freesat only saves a few thousand in EPG costs. However by staying on Sky they can agree to encryption so even if Sky give them no money out of the monthly subscription they waive the EPG costs as may encourage someone to subscribe.

Anyway outside Greyhound Racing shows they must be in a perilous financial position.

[malcy93]

How much sport, that a large enough people want to see, is not already shown on the main FTA channels, or Sky, BT, Eurosport and even Premier?

Well I can see it makes senses for Greyhound Racing as that only exists for the betting hence the coverage is funded by the tracks and bookmakers hoping viewers place a bet and unlike horse racing they are not prepared to pay for their own TV channel. Hence why no equivalent of RacingUK or AtTheRaces.

Anything else is just an ego trip by the sports paying to say they are on TV. Would be better to pay for Facebook or YouTube streaming and targeted Facebook advertising, but others here have suggested that already.

[Ginge]

Ha, no FrontRunner viewing figures have been made public for the week ending 18th June.

Have the EDO pulled the same trick as the BDO and asked them to withhold them?

[markymark]

How much sport, that a large enough people want to see, is not already shown on the main FTA channels, or Sky, BT, Eurosport and even Premier?

Well I can see it makes senses for Greyhound Racing as that only exists for the betting hence the coverage is funded by the tracks and bookmakers hoping viewers place a bet and unlike horse racing they are not prepared to pay for their own TV channel. Hence why no equivalent of RacingUK or AtTheRaces.

They tried it in the early days of Sky Digital with Go Barking Mad but didn't last long. Greyhound racing is in a massive slump.

As you say though, there's a strategy for why they put it on this channel (and Information TV before that) but not sure what the strategy is for EDO/BDO tournaments on FR.

[Ginge]

As you say though, there's a strategy for why they put it on this channel (and Information TV before that) but not sure what the strategy is for EDO/BDO tournaments on FR.

"Lets keep hoping that Wayne/Sue Williams and Tommy Thompson continue lobbing money at us"?

[nikkiboy]

Well I was only here for a couple of hours at the weekend so don't have time to trawl all the BDO threads. I saw this on some of the TV forums I subscribe to.

Has someone else posted the link I have ? Shows FrontRunner is now only on Sky.

I can understand them going off Freeview as even on the cheap temporary multiplex they moved to recently it still costs serious money.

Freesat is more surprising as they still have the satellite transmission costs so going off Freesat only saves a few thousand in EPG costs. However by staying on Sky they can agree to encryption so even if Sky give them no money out of the monthly subscription they waive the EPG costs as may encourage someone to subscribe.

Anyway outside Greyhound Racing shows they must be in a perilous financial position.

Anyone know the costs of this type of channel on freeview per annum?

[Ginge]

Well I was only here for a couple of hours at the weekend so don't have time to trawl all the BDO threads. I saw this on some of the TV forums I subscribe to.

Has someone else posted the link I have ? Shows FrontRunner is now only on Sky.

I can understand them going off Freeview as even on the cheap temporary multiplex they moved to recently it still costs serious money.

Freesat is more surprising as they still have the satellite transmission costs so going off Freesat only saves a few thousand in EPG costs. However by staying on Sky they can agree to encryption so even if Sky give them no money out of the monthly subscription they waive the EPG costs as may encourage someone to subscribe.

Anyway outside Greyhound Racing shows they must be in a perilous financial position.

Anyone know the costs of this type of channel on freeview per annum?

No idea but this article describes what happened in 2013 with the six-year channels

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/07/ofcom_600mhz/

[malcy93]

An SD channel on these HD multiplexes only takes 1/5 to 1/6 of the space of an HD channel so I presume costs are pro-ratted.
With no takers for HD beyond BBC, C4 and QVC putting up a couple each this is why eventually they offered to SD channels and a few moved over to gave costs like Vintage TV and FR. Is short sighted as the channels get chucked off air in a couple of years.

[Murphio]

The gift that keeps giving.

[oche balboa]

The gift that keeps giving.

Thats what the Madam says when you go into the brothel every time

[Murphio]

The gift that keeps giving.

Thats what the Madam says when you go into the brothel every time

Yes. In her defence though your poor mum needs something to keep you in corned beef and biscuits ya fat nugget.

[BlueSpark]

The gift that keeps giving.

Thats what the Madam says when you go into the brothel every time

Yes. In her defence though your poor mum needs something to keep you in corned beef and biscuits ya fat nugget.

Ouch

[Zapp Brannigan]

An SD channel on these HD multiplexes only takes 1/5 to 1/6 of the space of an HD channel so I presume costs are pro-ratted.
With no takers for HD beyond BBC, C4 and QVC putting up a couple each this is why eventually they offered to SD channels and a few moved over to gave costs like Vintage TV and FR. Is short sighted as the channels get chucked off air in a couple of years.

It also helps when the parent company covering you is a self proclaimed specialist in buying and selling slots on sky and freeview.

Information tv knew what was going to happen from day one. Get front runner to pick up the slot, help with initial advertising and funds, wait a year for it to all go tits up and not have the money to cover the costs, take the slot back of them, sell it on to the next up and coming channel