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I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
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Have to say I totally agree. They don't make many like jocky.Thehateful180 wrote:I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
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Except he has maintained this level for many years, he just didn't play the tour until fairly recently.Thehateful180 wrote:I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
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Rout wrote:Have to say I totally agree. They don't make many like jocky.Thehateful180 wrote:I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
Very true. Something that really bugs me when I hear it from know it all pub chuckers is the fallacy that *you have to find what's comfortable for you*. That attitude makes players reluctant to change technique however flawed their own may be.
You have to find what works and make it comfortable for you.
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Suljovic has been a top player for more than a decade now, he just plays the full tour since 2015, and the continuous competiting on the highest level has brought out his full potential. I think he will only improve from here on and will probably even win a major. Might be this week. However, that he will play Premier League next year is a certainty. No doubt whatsoever.
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Pure nonsense rally. Different styles work for different players. Phil Taylor and Eric Bristow don't have the most natural styles do they? Still they are two of the biggest legends the game has seen. Odd styles can belog to the very best players. No theory can predict this.Thehateful180 wrote:Rout wrote:Have to say I totally agree. They don't make many like jocky.Thehateful180 wrote:I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
Very true. Something that really bugs me when I hear it from know it all pub chuckers is the fallacy that *you have to find what's comfortable for you*. That attitude makes players reluctant to change technique however flawed their own may be.
You have to find what works and make it comfortable for you.
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Quoted for future reference. Silly comment.phil davies wrote:Lets be honest him overtaking Chizzy after the worlds may aswell be a certanty as he is going to win a fair amount more money in the rest of this year than Chizzy is.ssjsa wrote:Burton's numbers show that if Mensur wins tonight he would overtake Chizzy in the race for an automatic PL place.Ginge wrote:Cant see him getting in the PL though unless he is ranked 4th or above by the cutoff, mind.
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Players can succeed with odd styles. I would argue that it is despite rather than because of it though. It stands to reason that a solid, fairly basic repeatable action is more likely to succeed.Duneh9617 wrote:Pure nonsense rally. Different styles work for different players. Phil Taylor and Eric Bristow don't have the most natural styles do they? Still they are two of the biggest legends the game has seen. Odd styles can belog to the very best players. No theory can predict this.Thehateful180 wrote:Rout wrote:Have to say I totally agree. They don't make many like jocky.Thehateful180 wrote:I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
Very true. Something that really bugs me when I hear it from know it all pub chuckers is the fallacy that *you have to find what's comfortable for you*. That attitude makes players reluctant to change technique however flawed their own may be.
You have to find what works and make it comfortable for you.
Phil Taylor may not have a natural action but it all comes out in a nice straight line. It's repeatable and works. Once you start adding a shedload of movement then it it automatically becomes less repeatable. Alan Norris has a lot of movement in his throw and his hot and cold performances show that when he is in rhythm he gets away with it, when he isn't he doesn't.
There is obviously a risk in chasing perfection as Eric found out, but good basics are an essential foundation.
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I don't think you can say mensur is far supior than Hamilton was in his prime.phil davies wrote:Their is a big difference between Mensur and those mentioned above being that Mensur is far superior to them all and by quite some distance. Can't only see him rising further up the OOM and staying in the top 16 for a long long time as long as he stays healthy.Rout wrote:Have to say I totally agree. They don't make many like jocky.Thehateful180 wrote:I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
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I think pdl should be top 6 ranked anyway and then 2 sky picks 2 pdc picks anyway way gurney playing he had to be a shout
Mensour is defending a run to the semis at the wgp he played a great game tonight and if has another good tv run or wins a euro tour he deserves a crack at the pdl
Mensour is defending a run to the semis at the wgp he played a great game tonight and if has another good tv run or wins a euro tour he deserves a crack at the pdl
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He's rejected the Premier League once, and apparently they won't ask him again. Stalemate.Ginge wrote:Cant see him getting in the PL though unless he is ranked 4th or above by the cutoff, mind.
Cited travelling and being away from family as the problem.
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I enjoyed that interview.
Mensur has been one of my favorite shooters for some time.
I was thrilled when he finally made the decision to give the tour a full go
and he has delivered.
it will not surprise me in the least if he does the PL next year.
he's been getting his ducks in a row to do it.
sped up his approach to the board.
starting to do the interviews (the English ones)
sold his business. (the gentle café, now called the Sherlock owned by rj rodriguez)
pure PL premature speculation:
In
Mensur Suljovic
Daryl Gurney
Gerwyn Price
out
Kim Huybrechts
Jelle Klaasen
Phil Taylor
Mensur has been one of my favorite shooters for some time.
I was thrilled when he finally made the decision to give the tour a full go
and he has delivered.
it will not surprise me in the least if he does the PL next year.
he's been getting his ducks in a row to do it.
sped up his approach to the board.
starting to do the interviews (the English ones)
sold his business. (the gentle café, now called the Sherlock owned by rj rodriguez)
pure PL premature speculation:
In
Mensur Suljovic
Daryl Gurney
Gerwyn Price
out
Kim Huybrechts
Jelle Klaasen
Phil Taylor
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Gerwyn Price shouldn't be anywhere near a PL place.
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Neither should James Wade.BlueSpark wrote:Gerwyn Price shouldn't be anywhere near a PL place.
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Level with Klaasen for 9th place in the OOM.Ginge wrote:Neither should James Wade.BlueSpark wrote:Gerwyn Price shouldn't be anywhere near a PL place.
Agreed.
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He retracted that, said he didn't mean it the way it sounded and he would play PL if asked.MrLil8 wrote:He's rejected the Premier League once, and apparently they won't ask him again. Stalemate.Ginge wrote:Cant see him getting in the PL though unless he is ranked 4th or above by the cutoff, mind.
Cited travelling and being away from family as the problem.
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Certainty:
MVG
G. Anderson
Wright
van Barneveld
A. Lewis
High probability:
Wade
Chisnall
Gurney
Suljovic
Realistic options:
M. Smith
Price
Still in with some hope:
Cullen
Norris
Klaasen
van de Pas
Huybrechts
Whitlock
MVG
G. Anderson
Wright
van Barneveld
A. Lewis
High probability:
Wade
Chisnall
Gurney
Suljovic
Realistic options:
M. Smith
Price
Still in with some hope:
Cullen
Norris
Klaasen
van de Pas
Huybrechts
Whitlock
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Has Taylor said he's not playing in it any more for definate?Duneh9617 wrote:Certainty:
MVG
G. Anderson
Wright
van Barneveld
A. Lewis
High probability:
Wade
Chisnall
Gurney
Suljovic
Realistic options:
M. Smith
Price
Still in with some hope:
Cullen
Norris
Klaasen
van de Pas
Huybrechts
21st April 2016 7:01amGinge wrote:the cancer has been cut from the BDO
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MVG is doing fine.Thehateful180 wrote:I have extreme doubts that the Mensur miracle can continue for long. The tekkers is appalling. Players with dodgy actions can burn brightly, but they never do so for very long.
Newton,Hamilton, even Nils De Ruiter all had varying levels of success despite awful throwing styles. A loss of form soon puts paid to it though. It becomes very difficult for them to find their way back into form with so many steps in their process.
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I thought Taylor was finishing off his career in the PL next season ??