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Having won more pentathlons then anyone else and heading the all time ranking points for the event is Martin Adams the greatest player of our generation?
The Pentathlon is the the ultimate test for any player involving many differing applications utilising various regions of the dart board..........and don't forget all this was acheived on a real dartboard and not these generous modern boards we have today.
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Paddy McGinty wrote:Having won more pentathlons then anyone else and heading the all time ranking points for the event is John Lowe the greatest player of our generation?
The Pentathlon is the the ultimate test for any player involving many differing applications utilising various regions of the dart board..........and don't forget all this was acheived on a real dartboard and not these generous modern boards we have today.
One of but not THE greatest, the pentathlon is great but it is what it is and for the best one must factor in all ranking tournaments. Therefore unfortunately a certain Mr Phil Taylor is the greatest ever.
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I notice the question you pose in the OP differs from the question in the thread title.
Given the parameters you're using to frame the question(s) i.e. Pentathlon success played on round wire boards, you're probably better off sticking to asking is he was the best player of his generation (to which my answer is he probably was, yes, although at the time I'd have had to admit that through gritted teeth as I was a huge Bob Anderson fan as a kid).

You've got no chance of answering was he the best of all time , given that today's top players (PDC at least) don't even play Pentathlon, so you can't use it as a measure of identifying the best player of all time.
Equally, we're rapidly approaching the time when hardly any top players will ever have even played competitively on round wire boards, and you've no way of knowing how well Lowe in his prime would have done on a modern board in the same way you've no idea how todays younger players would fare on a round wire board.

Like any sport, with the advances made in equipment / sports physiology knowledge etc, trying to identify the Best Of All Time is a futile exercise.
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No doubt that Taylor is the GOAT.

Lowe was a fantastic player and would definitely be in my Top 6.
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Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:I notice the question you pose in the OP differs from the question in the thread title.
Given the parameters you're using to frame the question(s) i.e. Pentathlon success played on round wire boards, you're probably better off sticking to asking is he was the best player of his generation (to which my answer is he probably was, yes, although at the time I'd have had to admit that through gritted teeth as I was a huge Bob Anderson fan as a kid).

You've got no chance of answering was he the best of all time , given that today's top players (PDC at least) don't even play Pentathlon, so you can't use it as a measure of identifying the best player of all time.
Equally, we're rapidly approaching the time when hardly any top players will ever have even played competitively on round wire boards, and you've no way of knowing how well Lowe in his prime would have done on a modern board in the same way you've no idea how todays younger players would fare on a round wire board.

Like any sport, with the advances made in equipment / sports physiology knowledge etc, trying to identify the Best Of All Time is a futile exercise.
Trying to second guess what goes on in Paddy McGintys head is a futile exercise. I wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt; it's likely more of his now tiresome trolling.
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Oh the ironing.

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ssjsa wrote:No doubt that Taylor is the GOAT.

Lowe was a fantastic player and would definitely be in my Top 6.
Be interesting to see what people’s top 10 are

Surely mvg has to be up there now, maybe even Ando

Also where would people stick someone like jocky in a list of all time greats?
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The guy hit a 9er on a round wire regulation board, that alone makes him better than everyone bar Taylor.

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ifm wrote:The guy hit a 9er on a round wire regulation board, that alone makes him better than everyone bar Taylor.

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Murphio wrote: Trying to second guess what goes on in Paddy McGintys head is a futile exercise..
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In all honesty I still think Bristow at his peak was the best ever player, the fact he won so much at a time when players like Lowe,Wilson,Rees,Glazier,Anderson,Evans, George,Morgan and Lazarenko were around speaks for itself. Lowe would most definitely be in my top 5 though.
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Zapp Brannigan wrote:
ssjsa wrote:No doubt that Taylor is the GOAT.

Lowe was a fantastic player and would definitely be in my Top 6.
Be interesting to see what people’s top 10 are

Surely mvg has to be up there now, maybe even Ando

Also where would people stick someone like jocky in a list of all time greats?
1. Taylor
2. Bristow
3. Barney
4. Lowe
5. Van Gerwen
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1. Bristow
2. Bob Anderson
3. Taylor
4. Lowe
5. Wilson
6. Rees
7. Van Gerwen
8. Part
9. Adams
10. Evans
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Taylor
RVB
MVG
Bristow
Lowe
Anderson G
Anderson B
Wilson
Part
Adams
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Booji Boy wrote:Taylor
RVB
MVG
Bristow
Lowe
Anderson G
Anderson B
Wilson
Part
Adams
No Priestley?
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Murphio wrote:
Booji Boy wrote:Taylor
RVB
MVG
Bristow
Lowe
Anderson G
Anderson B
Wilson
Part
Adams
No Priestley?
My you are very observant :)
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Murphio wrote:
Booji Boy wrote:Taylor
RVB
MVG
Bristow
Lowe
Anderson G
Anderson B
Wilson
Part
Adams
No Priestley?
Furthermore his overall record is not that great. Two WC's and masters thats all he won.
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