Zapp Brannigan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:59 pm

DavidB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:48 pm No you’re missing the point - he qualified for both world championships and decided to play at Ally Pally therefore signing this contract!!! If could have played at Lakeside instead if he wanted to and that’s the difference, he made his own choice not because he was forced!

Im not missing any point,

he had to make a choice because the PDC wouldnt let him play lakeside and lakeside wouldnt let him play Ally Pally. If there was no contract, like you think there wont be for the Women, then he wouldnt have had to make a choice and could have just played both.

The ally pally contract states you cant play both world championships, Hearn has said that wont change, I remember Paul saying months ago something along the lines of the women entering thought they wouldnt be able to play Lakeside if they got through but the £7k was too much to turn down, so therefore the 2 women will have to pull out when they sign their Ally Pally Contract.

Its going to be pretty Embarrassing if the number 2 (potentially) and the number 4 have to pull out next week after the draw has made because the BDO didnt get clarity from the qualifiers.

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:08 pm If only we had Ana's other half on the forum who could confirm or deny if signing the Ally Pally contract precludes her from playing Lakeside.

DavidB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:06 pm

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:01 pm

DavidB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:48 pm No you’re missing the point - he qualified for both world championships and decided to play at Ally Pally therefore signing this contract!!! If could have played at Lakeside instead if he wanted to and that’s the difference, he made his own choice not because he was forced!

This is the only point being discussed here. He wasn't a tour card holder, yet chose to play Ally Pally once he'd qualified. In essence no different from Ana this year. So it's perfectly reasonable to ask whether or not she will be able to take part at Lakeside as a result.

Starting an argument over the specific language used when asking that question isn't going to get anyone anywhere

You’re starting the argument, I’m just stating what is correct

You are wrong because as it stands both women’s qualifiers can play in both WC’s...

DavidB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:19 pm

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:08 pm If only we had Ana's other half on the forum who could confirm or deny if signing the Ally Pally contract precludes her from playing Lakeside.

Why do you say Ally Pally contract?? Is there such a contract separate of the PDPA contract or you’re talking one of the same??

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:22 pm

DavidB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:19 pm

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:08 pm If only we had Ana's other half on the forum who could confirm or deny if signing the Ally Pally contract precludes her from playing Lakeside.

Why do you say Ally Pally contract?? Is there such a contract separate of the PDPA contract or you’re talking one of the same??

You would imagine each TV contract has a "playing contract" separate from a PDPA membership one. In reality I have no idea.

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:19 pm

DavidB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:06 pm

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:01 pm

DavidB wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:48 pm No you’re missing the point - he qualified for both world championships and decided to play at Ally Pally therefore signing this contract!!! If could have played at Lakeside instead if he wanted to and that’s the difference, he made his own choice not because he was forced!

This is the only point being discussed here. He wasn't a tour card holder, yet chose to play Ally Pally once he'd qualified. In essence no different from Ana this year. So it's perfectly reasonable to ask whether or not she will be able to take part at Lakeside as a result.

Starting an argument over the specific language used when asking that question isn't going to get anyone anywhere

You’re starting the argument, I’m just stating what is correct

You are wrong because as it stands both women’s qualifiers can play in both WC’s...

I'm wrong how exactly?
Point me to where I've stated the female qualifiers will not be allowed to play at Lakeside.
Someone else has asked the question of whether they will be able to or not, and I've merely observed it's a reasonable question to ask given the precedent of last year

Zapp Brannigan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:13 pm Have the BDO actually confirmed that Anastasia and whoever wins the UK qualifier is taking part.

Hearn said the PDC has to stick to their contracts due to TV deals in place and the Ally Pally contract has stated in it that you cant play in another world championship.

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:25 am I see they finally fixed the bit where Cameron was playing two opponents.

DavidOwen67 wrote:

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:25 am I see they finally fixed the bit where Cameron was playing two opponents.

No wonder it's his 6th appearance if he enters twice a year.

Ginge wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:36 am

DavidOwen67 wrote:

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:25 am I see they finally fixed the bit where Cameron was playing two opponents.

No wonder it's his 6th appearance if he enters twice a year.

At least Paula Jacklin isn't "in form" this year according to the write-up...

ChrisW wrote:

Ginge wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:36 am

DavidOwen67 wrote:

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:25 am I see they finally fixed the bit where Cameron was playing two opponents.

No wonder it's his 6th appearance if he enters twice a year.

At least Paula Jacklin isn't "in form" this year according to the write-up...

Buzz pointed that out yesterday.

ChrisW wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:47 am Apparently Adam Smith-Neale has broken his leg in Italy.

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:08 pm If only we had Ana's other half on the forum who could confirm or deny if signing the Ally Pally contract precludes her from playing Lakeside.

Bag Carrier wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:38 pm

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:08 pm If only we had Ana's other half on the forum who could confirm or deny if signing the Ally Pally contract precludes her from playing Lakeside.

Allowed to play in both.

Had word from PDC they have no restrictions in the contract and neither do BDO.

Zapp Brannigan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:04 am

ChrisW wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:47 am Apparently Adam Smith-Neale has broken his leg in Italy.

Think all of Lincs that get sponsored was out in Italy so im guessing some drink was involved.

Wont be stood on it for 6-8 weeks so that puts him out of Lakeside.

Paddy McGinty wrote:

Bag Carrier wrote: ↑Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:38 pm

Ginge wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:08 pm If only we had Ana's other half on the forum who could confirm or deny if signing the Ally Pally contract precludes her from playing Lakeside.

Allowed to play in both.

Had word from PDC they have no restrictions in the contract and neither do BDO.

Well that pissed on Ginge's fireworks.......