Garry Murphy wrote:The reality is if it were not for the likes of pdc floor qualifiers like Muffin man, Joe Murnan and Mark Webster, the bdo would struggle to get wins.
If Adrian Lewis, Daryl Gurney and Chizzy for example were there instead of hime, webster and murnan, the bdo would not be getting out of their groups
But didn’t Hine, Webster and murnan qualify from the same competition that Lewis, gurney and chizzy entered??
Correct. But I think gary's point is you have a floor type qualifier and floor type players sometimes make it. A guy has a good day and is in the gsod.
When watching the profiles it was interesting to see bdo players ranked 1-7? (apart from the guy ranked 80?) playing against pdc guys ranked 70 etc.
basically you have the cream of the bdo (re rankings or winning an event) but you don't in the pdc.
BT I am enjoying tonight. Great event.
Excellent point, well made Devo.
The quality of the floor qualifiers, with the exception of Bunting and Keegan Brown has been pretty poor, and as you articulate, does not represent the cream of the PDC.
Conversely the BDO have ensured that their 8 representatives are as good as they could have selected.
Sunday November 11
Afternoon Session (1300 GMT)
Groups E-H Second Matches
Ryan Searle (83.56) 3 (9) 5 (92.93) Mark McGeeney (H)
Josh Payne (90.20) 5 (9) 2 (91.91) Jim Williams (E)
Martin Schindler (88.42) 1 (9) 5 (97.76) Scott Mitchell (G)
Simon Whitlock (94.11) 5 (9) 2 (89.56) Andrew Gilding (F)
Mensur Suljovic (101.94) 3 (9) 5 (104.36) Stephen Bunting (G)
Rob Cross (98.08) 5 (9) 4 (100.11) Dimitri Van den Bergh (H)
Gerwyn Price (101.60) 5 (9) 4 (97.02) Glen Durrant (F)
Peter Wright (98.46) 5 (9) 2 (95.76) Max Hopp (E)
Evening Session (1900 GMT)
Groups A-D Second Matches
Steve Hine (89.86) 2 (9) 5 (97.09) Michael Unterbuchner (D)
Joe Murnan (89.57) 4 (9) 5 (88.53) Gary Robson (A)
Mark Webster (91.23) 3 (9) (88.91) Wesley Harms (C)
Raymond van Barneveld (88.72) 5 (9) 4 (84.76) Adam Smith-Neale (B)
James Wade (104.71) 5 (9) 3 (102.06) Keegan Brown (C)
Michael Smith (97.26) 5 (9) 4 (99.40) Krzysztof Ratajski (B)
Michael van Gerwen v Jonny Clayton (A)
Gary Anderson v Ian White (D)
devosteve wrote:
Correct. But I think gary's point is you have a floor type qualifier and floor type players sometimes make it. A guy has a good day and is in the gsod.
When watching the profiles it was interesting to see bdo players ranked 1-7? (apart from the guy ranked 80?) playing against pdc guys ranked 70 etc.
basically you have the cream of the bdo (re rankings or winning an event) but you don't in the pdc.
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The people on here judge posts made on who is making them instead of its content.
The fact is outside of durrant beating whitlock, every other single win the bdo got was against a pdc player not even in the top 40.
3 of those players were not even in the top 60.
When the top players of the bdo meet the top players of the PDC the pdc win, year in year out
People on here do judge your posts by the fact it is you that posted them.
Surely you must accept that if the vast, vast majority of your posts are in a manner that makes people perceive you to be both a troll and a total fanny, the posts that you do make, which can on rare occasions be both incisive and pertinent get lost in the wash.
It is a shame, because believe it or not, you were once a great poster who made a fantastic contribution to this forum.
devosteve wrote:
Correct. But I think gary's point is you have a floor type qualifier and floor type players sometimes make it. A guy has a good day and is in the gsod.
When watching the profiles it was interesting to see bdo players ranked 1-7? (apart from the guy ranked 80?) playing against pdc guys ranked 70 etc.
basically you have the cream of the bdo (re rankings or winning an event) but you don't in the pdc.
.
The people on here judge posts made on who is making them instead of its content.
The fact is outside of durrant beating whitlock, every other single win the bdo got was against a pdc player not even in the top 40.
3 of those players were not even in the top 60.
When the top players of the bdo meet the top players of the PDC the pdc win, year in year out
People on here do judge your posts by the fact it is you that posted them.
Surely you must accept that if the vast, vast majority of your posts are in a manner that makes people perceive you to be both a troll and a total fanny, the posts that you do make, which can on rare occasions be both incisive and pertinent get lost in the wash.
It is a shame, because believe it or not, you were once a great poster who made a fantastic contribution to this forum.
Well done on proving my point exactly.
You totally ignored the content and chose to speak about me instead
Well done
i am so sorry for my actions these last ten years, i'm going through a tough time
BOOM wrote:Wade's starting to look like the 3rd best player in the world all of a sudden...
has bunting retired ?
Dzien dobry Garry
Good to see the return of the laughing men.
I am being trying to contact you by phone but you are being not answering.
Is there being a chance we could be changing shifts at the sex shop tomorrow. I would be buying you lots of Zubrowka if you could do the late shift and I could be doing the early one.
devosteve wrote:
Correct. But I think gary's point is you have a floor type qualifier and floor type players sometimes make it. A guy has a good day and is in the gsod.
When watching the profiles it was interesting to see bdo players ranked 1-7? (apart from the guy ranked 80?) playing against pdc guys ranked 70 etc.
basically you have the cream of the bdo (re rankings or winning an event) but you don't in the pdc.
.
The people on here judge posts made on who is making them instead of its content.
The fact is outside of durrant beating whitlock, every other single win the bdo got was against a pdc player not even in the top 40.
3 of those players were not even in the top 60.
When the top players of the bdo meet the top players of the PDC the pdc win, year in year out
People on here do judge your posts by the fact it is you that posted them.
Surely you must accept that if the vast, vast majority of your posts are in a manner that makes people perceive you to be both a troll and a total fanny, the posts that you do make, which can on rare occasions be both incisive and pertinent get lost in the wash.
It is a shame, because believe it or not, you were once a great poster who made a fantastic contribution to this forum.
Well done on proving my point exactly.
You totally ignored the content and chose to speak about me instead
Well done
You're welcome. And thank you so much for proving mine.
seems like sour grapes to me, you cant go on a dick waving exercise about how much better the pdc players are then sulk like hell when your favourites arnt there & start grasping at straws for excuses why they arnt there, hasnt every pdc player qualified through a criteria the players are there on merit , these are the best players from each side, thats how the tourneys marketed isnt it ?
Sunday November 11
Afternoon Session (1300 GMT)
Groups E-H Second Matches
Ryan Searle (83.56) 3 (9) 5 (92.93) Mark McGeeney (H)
Josh Payne (90.20) 5 (9) 2 (91.91) Jim Williams (E)
Martin Schindler (88.42) 1 (9) 5 (97.76) Scott Mitchell (G)
Simon Whitlock (94.11) 5 (9) 2 (89.56) Andrew Gilding (F)
Mensur Suljovic (101.94) 3 (9) 5 (104.36) Stephen Bunting (G)
Rob Cross (98.08) 5 (9) 4 (100.11) Dimitri Van den Bergh (H)
Gerwyn Price (101.60) 5 (9) 4 (97.02) Glen Durrant (F)
Peter Wright (98.46) 5 (9) 2 (95.76) Max Hopp (E)
Evening Session (1900 GMT)
Groups A-D Second Matches
Steve Hine (89.86) 2 (9) 5 (97.09) Michael Unterbuchner (D)
Joe Murnan (89.57) 4 (9) 5 (88.53) Gary Robson (A)
Mark Webster (91.23) 3 (9) (88.91) Wesley Harms (C)
Raymond van Barneveld (88.72) 5 (9) 4 (84.76) Adam Smith-Neale (B)
James Wade (104.71) 5 (9) 3 (102.06) Keegan Brown (C)
Michael Smith (97.26) 5 (9) 4 (99.40) Krzysztof Ratajski (B)
Michael van Gerwen (107.92) 4 (9) 5 (103.60) Jonny Clayton (A)
Gary Anderson v Ian White (D)
only85 wrote:seems like sour grapes to me, you cant go on a dick waving exercise about how much better the pdc players are then sulk like hell when your favourites arnt there & start grasping at straws for excuses why they arnt there, hasnt every pdc player qualified through a criteria the players are there on merit , these are the best players from each side, thats how the tourneys marketed isnt it ?
Welcome to the world of the poster known on here as Garry Murphy.
Don't take him too seriously. He is completely up his own arse and only posts in the hope of getting a reaction to satisfy his narcisstic needs.
What a performance from Ando, barring that 2nd leg White didn't play so bad just ran into a steam train. but I still Reckon MVG will finish top of his group aswell.