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Si Robin wrote:I listened to his interview on the Weekly Dartscast the week after he won Lakeside and he made a point that he’s got 30 years of pension behind him at work, is not the youngest guy, and confirmed it’s a massive risk to go full-time pro.

I don’t, for a second, understand how pensions work (mines all sorted for me) but if that’s at risk when potentially switching because he’d have to give his job up to put the time to practicing, then you can see his point. He’s not in his early 20s. If he fails in the PDC (and I don’t think he would), then what does he go back to. His job will likely be taken.

It’s easy to say he’ll make a mint, but he may have had a shocking 4 days at Q-school, just got a tour card and then lose form altogether. Look at Stephen Bunting’s second year.

I wanted Glen to go over, to show he could mix it with the big boys on a regular basis, but I can fully understand why he hasn't, and it's not as simple as just bottling it in my view.
If he quit his job he would defer his pension which means he would not be able to take it until he’s 65.

He could of course take it out of his current pension by getting a financial expert to request a transfer value and reinvest it, you would think someone who has earnt 150k on top of his yearly earnings would have a financial advisor.

I think his main issue is he knows he on for an easy winner for the next 3 or 4 years, unless someone comes out of nowhere he can do exhibitions and chill out until September, do masters, grand slam, finders and the bdo worlds and if he gets to the semis at least he can rinse and repeat until he either gets bored or is happy with the money he has earnt.
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Si Robin wrote:I listened to his interview on the Weekly Dartscast the week after he won Lakeside and he made a point that he’s got 30 years of pension behind him at work, is not the youngest guy, and confirmed it’s a massive risk to go full-time pro.

I don’t, for a second, understand how pensions work (mines all sorted for me) but if that’s at risk when potentially switching because he’d have to give his job up to put the time to practicing, then you can see his point. He’s not in his early 20s. If he fails in the PDC (and I don’t think he would), then what does he go back to. His job will likely be taken.

It’s easy to say he’ll make a mint, but he may have had a shocking 4 days at Q-school, just got a tour card and then lose form altogether. Look at Stephen Bunting’s second year.

I wanted Glen to go over, to show he could mix it with the big boys on a regular basis, but I can fully understand why he hasn't, and it's not as simple as just bottling it in my view.

Nobody can take away the pension he has accrued,
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With most pro-tour events being on a weekend, and most Lakeside point accruing events (and I know he has exemption, but still) being on weekends, are we saying he couldn't work, do what he does now practice wise, and still not earn decent money on the PT AND stay in a full-time job, as, we're told, many PDC "pros" do anyway?
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markymark wrote:With most pro-tour events being on a weekend, and most Lakeside point accruing events (and I know he has exemption, but still) being on weekends, are we saying he couldn't work, do what he does now practice wise, and still not earn decent money on the PT AND stay in a full-time job, as, we're told, many PDC "pros" do anyway?
he could have done , no problem at all. The issue for him, and others (like Scot Mitchell) is that they felt that in order to give the PDC full justice and to give themselves the best chance of competing was to go Full Time and practice more. They both have said this. I think it fair enough for dart players of their experience and standing.
For others starting out then trying to get on the Pro Tour and see how you get on before giving up your job and committing full time seems the right approach.
Horses for Courses I suppose.
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ifm wrote:
nikkiboy wrote:
BlueSpark wrote:
nikkiboy wrote:
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Not a hope in hell of this happening.
A bit like not a hope in hell of that Rob Cross fella winning?
Rob Cross is a much better player than Glen. Rob is getting used to playing with the big boys every week, beating them as well, not County Superior Men's and people at a holiday camp for a weekend on the piss. Not at any point have I ever been anything other than complimentary about Cross. After seeing him play at Hayling the other year, I knew he would be a top star in the PDC. Just the speed of how he has done it is what has been remarkable.
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Didn't think so, there is an old saying of "your name is on the trophy" that describes a year when everything went your way, this was Cross' year. The 7-2 drubbing he had in the PL is a reminder that this is a new year.
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markymark wrote:With most pro-tour events being on a weekend, and most Lakeside point accruing events (and I know he has exemption, but still) being on weekends, are we saying he couldn't work, do what he does now practice wise, and still not earn decent money on the PT AND stay in a full-time job, as, we're told, many PDC "pros" do anyway?
We're not saying anything! He's saying that to be at the top end of the PDC he will need to go full time, and if he's not committed to doing that, why bother switching?
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Addicks Fan wrote:
markymark wrote:With most pro-tour events being on a weekend, and most Lakeside point accruing events (and I know he has exemption, but still) being on weekends, are we saying he couldn't work, do what he does now practice wise, and still not earn decent money on the PT AND stay in a full-time job, as, we're told, many PDC "pros" do anyway?
We're not saying anything! He's saying that to be at the top end of the PDC he will need to go full time, and if he's not committed to doing that, why bother switching?
Precisely, he has said multiple times he doesn't feel he would be on a level playing field working for a living and he's probably right, add to that how soon q school is after Lakeside and it makes sense, all this crap about he'll win lakeside every year is just stupid.
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Astonvilla wrote:
Si Robin wrote:I listened to his interview on the Weekly Dartscast the week after he won Lakeside and he made a point that he’s got 30 years of pension behind him at work, is not the youngest guy, and confirmed it’s a massive risk to go full-time pro.

I don’t, for a second, understand how pensions work (mines all sorted for me) but if that’s at risk when potentially switching because he’d have to give his job up to put the time to practicing, then you can see his point. He’s not in his early 20s. If he fails in the PDC (and I don’t think he would), then what does he go back to. His job will likely be taken.

It’s easy to say he’ll make a mint, but he may have had a shocking 4 days at Q-school, just got a tour card and then lose form altogether. Look at Stephen Bunting’s second year.

I wanted Glen to go over, to show he could mix it with the big boys on a regular basis, but I can fully understand why he hasn't, and it's not as simple as just bottling it in my view.

Nobody can take away the pension he has accrued,
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ChrisW wrote:
Astonvilla wrote:
Si Robin wrote:I listened to his interview on the Weekly Dartscast the week after he won Lakeside and he made a point that he’s got 30 years of pension behind him at work, is not the youngest guy, and confirmed it’s a massive risk to go full-time pro.

I don’t, for a second, understand how pensions work (mines all sorted for me) but if that’s at risk when potentially switching because he’d have to give his job up to put the time to practicing, then you can see his point. He’s not in his early 20s. If he fails in the PDC (and I don’t think he would), then what does he go back to. His job will likely be taken.

It’s easy to say he’ll make a mint, but he may have had a shocking 4 days at Q-school, just got a tour card and then lose form altogether. Look at Stephen Bunting’s second year.

I wanted Glen to go over, to show he could mix it with the big boys on a regular basis, but I can fully understand why he hasn't, and it's not as simple as just bottling it in my view.

Nobody can take away the pension he has accrued,
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I'm a big supporter of Durrant but I don't think there's any doubt that Rob Cross is the better player...or certainly has been over the past 12 months....Durrant is way ahead of the current BDO lot but is not at the level that Bunting was achieving prior to his switch...winning the Winmau without dropping one set is an amazing achievement...so the BDO field at the top elite is constantly weakening..the new players are not at the level.of the players constantly leaving so you'd have to heavily back Durrant to win more Lakesides....but obviously it's not nailed on
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ifm wrote:
Addicks Fan wrote:
markymark wrote:With most pro-tour events being on a weekend, and most Lakeside point accruing events (and I know he has exemption, but still) being on weekends, are we saying he couldn't work, do what he does now practice wise, and still not earn decent money on the PT AND stay in a full-time job, as, we're told, many PDC "pros" do anyway?
We're not saying anything! He's saying that to be at the top end of the PDC he will need to go full time, and if he's not committed to doing that, why bother switching?
Precisely, he has said multiple times he doesn't feel he would be on a level playing field working for a living and he's probably right, add to that how soon q school is after Lakeside and it makes sense, all this crap about he'll win lakeside every year is just stupid.
Not every year but hes immediately favorite for next year, look at the top 16 currently on the BDO rankings (bar Duzza obviously)

Men's Invitational Table at 30/01/2018
Mark McGeeney (England)
Scott Mitchell (England)
Ross Montgomery (Scotland)
Jim Williams (Wales)
Willem Mandigers (Netherlands)
Martin Phillips (Wales)
Richard Veenstra (Netherlands)
Scott Waites (England)
James Hurrell (England)
Wesley Harms (Netherlands)
Andy Baetens (Belgium)
Dean Reynolds (Wales)
Geert de Vos (Belgium)
Kyle McKinstry (Northern Ireland)
Conan Whitehead (England)

Im not taking any of them to beat him over 7,8,9,11 or 13 sets.
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MVG is head and shoulders above every other player in the PDC, nobody is anywhere near his standard yet he doesn't win it every year does he?
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ifm wrote:MVG is head and shoulders above every other player in the PDC, nobody is anywhere near his standard yet he doesn't win it every year does he?
No he is not.
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Yes he is
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No he isnt.
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Ginge he is. Look at his dominance ffs
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oche balboa wrote:Yes he is
Of course he is not head and shoulders above the rest. He would win every tournament if he was.
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Booji Boy wrote:
oche balboa wrote:Yes he is
Of course he is not head and shoulders above the rest. He would win every tournament if he was.
Indeed. Better, yes. Head and shoulders, no.
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Booji Boy wrote:
oche balboa wrote:Yes he is
Of course he is not head and shoulders above the rest. He would win every tournament if he was.
So Glen does then?
I think you just defeated your own argument.
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ifm wrote:
Booji Boy wrote:
oche balboa wrote:Yes he is
Of course he is not head and shoulders above the rest. He would win every tournament if he was.
So Glen does then?
I think you just defeated your own argument.
Eh?

I am not talking about Glen, I am taking you to task on your mvg comment.
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