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World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:44 am
by Ginge
Looks like they have been updated for 2018.

http://bdodarts.com/images/bdo-content/ ... -rules.pdf

A couple of things stand out:
1.00 MEN’S QUALIFYING EVENTS

A. BDO Invitational Rankings Tables Invitations

The men in positions 1 to 128 inclusive of the BDO Women’s Main Invitation Rolling Tables as valid on 30th August 2018
It used to be the top 20 not qualified through all the other routes. Anyone any ideas which high profile player missed out last year which necessitated this change? Also do you get many men in the womens rolling table? :D

Oh and there is also this:
3.03 Conditions of Invitation Acceptance

a. By accepting the invitation to participate in the 2018 Men’s or Women’s section of the World Masters Championship each player agrees that should he/she be successful in winning the World Masters men’s or women’s Championship he/she will commit to participation as an invited player in the 2019 BDO World Professional Championships Finals
They are clearly still hurting about the Mighty Pole :D :D

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:34 am
by ssjsa
Ginge wrote:Looks like they have been updated for 2018.

http://bdodarts.com/images/bdo-content/ ... -rules.pdf

A couple of things stand out:
1.00 MEN’S QUALIFYING EVENTS

A. BDO Invitational Rankings Tables Invitations

The men in positions 1 to 128 inclusive of the BDO Women’s Main Invitation Rolling Tables as valid on 30th August 2018
It used to be the top 20 not qualified through all the other routes. Anyone any ideas which high profile player missed out last year which necessitated this change? Also do you get many men in the womens rolling table? :D

Oh and there is also this:
3.03 Conditions of Invitation Acceptance

a. By accepting the invitation to participate in the 2018 Men’s or Women’s section of the World Masters Championship each player agrees that should he/she be successful in winning the World Masters men’s or women’s Championship he/she will commit to participation as an invited player in the 2019 BDO World Professional Championships Finals
They are clearly still hurting about the Mighty Pole :D :D
In the case of Ratajski if this condition had been in place, he would simply have ignored it.

Other than holding the winner's prize money until January, how is this enforceable.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:45 am
by Ginge
I would imagine its another of the famous contracts like the ones they get the semi finalists to sign at Lakeside.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:48 am
by ssjsa
Ginge wrote:I would imagine its another of the famous contracts like the ones they get the semi finalists to sign at Lakeside.
Ah. Like the one Bunting signed. ;-)

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:51 am
by Ginge
Indeed. They cant withhold Masters money for 3 months, much easier to withhold Lakeside money until the Q School deadline passes (as its only the week later) so I cant see them having much joy with this one :D

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:42 pm
by Wubbalubbadubdub
I wonder what would happen, if they moved q-school to early december? If players that have qualified for the Lakeside won a card before that ,it would leave them in a massive bind in trying to get replacement players in.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:50 pm
by oche balboa
Ginge wrote:Looks like they have been updated for 2018.

http://bdodarts.com/images/bdo-content/ ... -rules.pdf

A couple of things stand out:
1.00 MEN’S QUALIFYING EVENTS

A. BDO Invitational Rankings Tables Invitations

The men in positions 1 to 128 inclusive of the BDO Women’s Main Invitation Rolling Tables as valid on 30th August 2018
It used to be the top 20 not qualified through all the other routes. Anyone any ideas which high profile player missed out last year which necessitated this change? Also do you get many men in the womens rolling table? :D

Oh and there is also this:
3.03 Conditions of Invitation Acceptance

a. By accepting the invitation to participate in the 2018 Men’s or Women’s section of the World Masters Championship each player agrees that should he/she be successful in winning the World Masters men’s or women’s Championship he/she will commit to participation as an invited player in the 2019 BDO World Professional Championships Finals
They are clearly still hurting about the Mighty Pole :D :D

Clearly it’s the right thing to do

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:51 pm
by Ginge
It's futile unless you are going to withhold the prize money for 3 months, as Bunting proved.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:52 pm
by oche balboa
Wubbalubbadubdub wrote:I wonder what would happen, if they moved q-school to early december? If players that have qualified for the Lakeside won a card before that ,it would leave them in a massive bind in trying to get replacement players in.

Why would the PDC move it when they have the worlds and players championships on during that period

Brain dead post

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:57 pm
by Ginge
oche balboa wrote:
Wubbalubbadubdub wrote:I wonder what would happen, if they moved q-school to early december? If players that have qualified for the Lakeside won a card before that ,it would leave them in a massive bind in trying to get replacement players in.

Why would the PDC move it when they have the worlds and players championships on during that period

Brain dead post
Erm, there about a 1.5-2 week gap between them ;)

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:03 pm
by ifm
oche balboa wrote:
Ginge wrote:Looks like they have been updated for 2018.

http://bdodarts.com/images/bdo-content/ ... -rules.pdf

A couple of things stand out:
1.00 MEN’S QUALIFYING EVENTS

A. BDO Invitational Rankings Tables Invitations

The men in positions 1 to 128 inclusive of the BDO Women’s Main Invitation Rolling Tables as valid on 30th August 2018
It used to be the top 20 not qualified through all the other routes. Anyone any ideas which high profile player missed out last year which necessitated this change? Also do you get many men in the womens rolling table? :D

Oh and there is also this:
3.03 Conditions of Invitation Acceptance

a. By accepting the invitation to participate in the 2018 Men’s or Women’s section of the World Masters Championship each player agrees that should he/she be successful in winning the World Masters men’s or women’s Championship he/she will commit to participation as an invited player in the 2019 BDO World Professional Championships Finals
They are clearly still hurting about the Mighty Pole :D :D

Clearly it’s the right thing to do
Indeed, slow news day.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:37 pm
by Zapp Brannigan
How many points did 128th had last year?

Re: RE: Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:41 pm
by Ginge
Zapp Brannigan wrote:How many points did 128th had last year?
Just look how many 128th has now in the rolling table for a guide as to how many would be needed ;)

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:45 pm
by Wubbalubbadubdub
oche balboa wrote:
Wubbalubbadubdub wrote:I wonder what would happen, if they moved q-school to early december? If players that have qualified for the Lakeside won a card before that ,it would leave them in a massive bind in trying to get replacement players in.

Why would the PDC move it when they have the worlds and players championships on during that period

Brain dead post
I take any kind of apology. :grin:

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:49 pm
by devosteve
Oh and there is also this:
3.03 Conditions of Invitation Acceptance

a. By accepting the invitation to participate in the 2018 Men’s or Women’s section of the World Masters Championship each player agrees that should he/she be successful in winning the World Masters men’s or women’s Championship he/she will commit to participation as an invited player in the 2019 BDO World Professional Championships Finals
They are clearly still hurting about the Mighty Pole :D :D[/quote]

Understandable why they have changed the rule. You could say it shows the BDO are flexible but isn't it a case that they are no longer a visionary org but rather just one that reacts to whatever circumstances happen.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:19 pm
by ifm
Whinge wrote:3.03 Conditions of Invitation Acceptance

a. By accepting the invitation to participate in the 2018 Men’s or Women’s section of the World Masters Championship each player agrees that should he/she be successful in winning the World Masters men’s or women’s Championship he/she will commit to participation as an invited player in the 2019 BDO World Professional Championships Finals
devosteve wrote:

Understandable why they have changed the rule. You could say it shows the BDO are flexible but isn't it a case that they are no longer a visionary org but rather just one that reacts to whatever circumstances happen.
That applies to the ET's too Marvin ;-)

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:32 pm
by Astonvilla
So how would that clause have stopped Ratajski going to the PDC WC. All it asks him to do is to commit to turning up at the BDO one.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:28 pm
by ssjsa
Astonvilla wrote:So how would that clause have stopped Ratajski going to the PDC WC. All it asks him to do is to commit to turning up at the BDO one.
It wouldn't have. The only hold the BDO have over any player is witholding their prize money.

Krzysztof's cheque would have been well cashed before notifying the BDO of his decision to skip Lakeside.

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:30 pm
by Black Velvet
Whatever happened to loyalty?

Re: World Masters Rules - updated

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:35 pm
by ssjsa
Black Velvet wrote:Whatever happened to loyalty?
It's a vastly overrated value when compared to earning potential.