The 5th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 May - 3 June 2018 Preston - Discussion

[ifm]

So is dean Winstanly barred or not? He's not happy on real fanatics.

He needs to ask the BDO.

[The Knowledge]

What current and potential sponsors can restrict a 17 year old from competing in any sport?

The £50,000 Grosvenor Casino series few years ago , BDO and PDC happily played against each other ! The only restriction was you had to be 18 to play in event , photo ID required

You have to be 18 to go in a Casino you dope, it's the law.

[Ginge]

Maybe they are cacking themselves that Beau Greaves would have qualified and shown up their "top" women.

That crossed my mind.

There was a lad who played in a televised snooker comp a year or two back who played without a bookie patch on his waistcoat as he was underage. Sponsors wouldn't be bothered as the publicity of a young player doing well is worth more than one patch.

Yup, Jackson Page. Has played more than once in a World Snooker event if I remember. Hence why its creating an issue that doesnt exist.

And that was as recently as March, not even last year.

[nikkiboy]

So they've cocked up with the rules for this comp, typical.

Will you stop slagging the BDO off

I bet you've got a stiffy.

ifm thinking about me with a stiffy, there.

[Booji Boy]

Must be getting televised by Television X.

Its the only reasonable conclusion I can make.

[nikkiboy]

Moobtube?

[The Knowledge]

I know you are trolling but i'll bite, how does that mean the BDO is no longer "darts for all"?

Forget that, have you seen the wording about associate members? Must be an error?

It's not changed.

So why have they accepted the entries of Atkins, Newton et al?

The PDC forced players to go to q school, looks like the BDO haven't updated theirs but in fairness it should be like this as Wes could play a pro tour this year which is what the rule is trying to avoid.

Forced? At gunpoint?

[ifm]

Forget that, have you seen the wording about associate members? Must be an error?

It's not changed.

So why have they accepted the entries of Atkins, Newton et al?

The PDC forced players to go to q school, looks like the BDO haven't updated theirs but in fairness it should be like this as Wes could play a pro tour this year which is what the rule is trying to avoid.

Forced? At gunpoint?

You're a bit slow.

[nikkiboy]

It's not changed.

So why have they accepted the entries of Atkins, Newton et al?

The PDC forced players to go to q school, looks like the BDO haven't updated theirs but in fairness it should be like this as Wes could play a pro tour this year which is what the rule is trying to avoid.

Forced? At gunpoint?

You're a bit slow.

So are you if you've only just figured that out

[The Knowledge]

It's not changed.

So why have they accepted the entries of Atkins, Newton et al?

The PDC forced players to go to q school, looks like the BDO haven't updated theirs but in fairness it should be like this as Wes could play a pro tour this year which is what the rule is trying to avoid.

Forced? At gunpoint?

You're a bit slow.

Just not on here 24 hours a day like you.

[ifm]

So why have they accepted the entries of Atkins, Newton et al?

The PDC forced players to go to q school, looks like the BDO haven't updated theirs but in fairness it should be like this as Wes could play a pro tour this year which is what the rule is trying to avoid.

Forced? At gunpoint?

You're a bit slow.

Just not on here 24 hours a day like you.

Still got the whoosh even though Nik ruined it

[devosteve]

So is dean Winstanly barred or not? He's not happy on real fanatics.

He needs to ask the BDO.

He will sue them if he is barred. Reckon there won't be a problem though.

[ifm]

So is dean Winstanly barred or not? He's not happy on real fanatics.

He needs to ask the BDO.

He will sue them if he is barred. Reckon there won't be a problem though.

LOL, course he will

[WCDPA]

But when I brought this up in December everyone said it wouldnt change a thing and the BDO would just carry on as normal.

This is the BDO saying they dont want associate members at their major events.

The rule hasn't changed, they never did!
It's the PDC that have created this situation.

Yes Im well aware the PDC created this issue but everyone said the BDO wouldn't block associates from playing events just because they went to Qschool, they would just keep it how they originally had it where it only effected people at Lakeside.

This is the opposite, now you cant do both full stop as This rules means you can play in the major as an associate so you cant play in the qualifiers.............and if the same rule is in the worlds you cant play in the Cat A,B or C events either.

The situation is completely changed by the PDC, 1. forcing players to attend q school and 2. using the CT OOM to fill gaps in the pro tour.
So the associate ruling now must be enforced whereas before it didn't matter much.

I am typing this out wrong or something?

Im well aware its the PDC that did this, im not disputing that.

My point is everyone said the BDO wouldn't enforce any rule stopping associates playing both and they would carry on only stopping people at lakeside.

By having this rule in (whether its new, old and previously ignored or anything) the BDO is now stopping people who went to Qschool, 4 months after the players made a choice.

So either the rule is worded wrong, in but still not being enforced, or the likes of Deano and Newton and going to have to be kicked out of the qualifier.

This looks like a specific rule to the WDT as in the main table rules eligibility doesn't exclude associate members , yet the WDT rules quote full and associate members .

[Ginge]

Just looked where Tony O'Shea is in the rolling table. Wasn't a million miles off an automatic spot.

The rules would look plain bizarre if he has qualified as of right. It's clearly an error in them, though.

[WCDPA]

What current and potential sponsors can restrict a 17 year old from competing in any sport?

The £50,000 Grosvenor Casino series few years ago , BDO and PDC happily played against each other ! The only restriction was you had to be 18 to play in event , photo ID required

You have to be 18 to go in a Casino you dope, it's the law.

You asked I answered you dope !

[Addicks Fan]

The rule hasn't changed, they never did!
It's the PDC that have created this situation.

Yes Im well aware the PDC created this issue but everyone said the BDO wouldn't block associates from playing events just because they went to Qschool, they would just keep it how they originally had it where it only effected people at Lakeside.

This is the opposite, now you cant do both full stop as This rules means you can play in the major as an associate so you cant play in the qualifiers.............and if the same rule is in the worlds you cant play in the Cat A,B or C events either.

The situation is completely changed by the PDC, 1. forcing players to attend q school and 2. using the CT OOM to fill gaps in the pro tour.
So the associate ruling now must be enforced whereas before it didn't matter much.

I am typing this out wrong or something?

Im well aware its the PDC that did this, im not disputing that.

My point is everyone said the BDO wouldn't enforce any rule stopping associates playing both and they would carry on only stopping people at lakeside.

By having this rule in (whether its new, old and previously ignored or anything) the BDO is now stopping people who went to Qschool, 4 months after the players made a choice.

So either the rule is worded wrong, in but still not being enforced, or the likes of Deano and Newton and going to have to be kicked out of the qualifier.

This looks like a specific rule to the WDT as in the main table rules eligibility doesn't exclude associate members , yet the WDT rules quote full and associate members .

It's at odds with everything else, so I'd be amazed if it wasn't just (another) cock-up. Be bizarre if you were eligible to play in all the events that could qualify for the event, but not the event itself!

[WCDPA]

Just looked where Tony O'Shea is in the rolling table. Wasn't a million miles off an automatic spot.

The rules would look plain bizarre if he has qualified as of right. It's clearly an error in them, though.

No I read it as an event rule 3(b) on WDT rules
BDO inv criteria rules are different so able to play in A+ , A's or any other Wes played Scotland and IOM , Dean IOM

[Ginge]

Just looked where Tony O'Shea is in the rolling table. Wasn't a million miles off an automatic spot.

The rules would look plain bizarre if he has qualified as of right. It's clearly an error in them, though.

No I read it as an event rule 3(b) on WDT rules
BDO inv criteria rules are different so able to play in A+ , A's or any other Wes played Scotland and IOM , Dean IOM

Nah, the only thing that would make Wes/Dean et al ineligible now is if they played in a Pro Tour (or a ET?).

[The Knowledge]

What current and potential sponsors can restrict a 17 year old from competing in any sport?

The £50,000 Grosvenor Casino series few years ago , BDO and PDC happily played against each other ! The only restriction was you had to be 18 to play in event , photo ID required

You have to be 18 to go in a Casino you dope, it's the law.

You asked I answered you dope !

You answered a different question you fool. Christ knows how you got an official position with England Darts, you are an embarrasing buffoon.