malcy93 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:27 pm
So although never admitted looks like Cadby got a 1 year entry ban for illegal playing professionally on a tourist visa.
Should have gone home after 2018 Q School and applied for a visa in Australia as could apply for the sports person one.
You only need a Standard Visitor' visa to be able to participate in sporting events.
Since he didn't have a tour card when he came in 2017 it would have been appropriate.
With a tour card, the Sportsperson Visa then became appropriate since the PDC would sponsor him.
He might have had a Visitor's visa but overstayed his original itinerary.
Yeah boi. Cadby is back to smash up the absolute gammon still clogging up the game. All while Ginge gets his pinny in a twist, tutting and moaning when he and the other old dears meet up for bingo.
Thehateful180 wrote:Yeah boi. Cadby is back to smash up the absolute gammon still clogging up the game. All while Ginge gets his pinny in a twist, tutting and moaning when he and the other old dears meet up for bingo.
malcy93 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:27 pm
So although never admitted looks like Cadby got a 1 year entry ban for illegal playing professionally on a tourist visa.
Should have gone home after 2018 Q School and applied for a visa in Australia as could apply for the sports person one.
You only need a Standard Visitor' visa to be able to participate in sporting events.
Since he didn't have a tour card when he came in 2017 it would have been appropriate.
With a tour card, the Sportsperson Visa then became appropriate since the PDC would sponsor him.
He might have had a Visitor's visa but overstayed his original itinerary.
That’s not true the government have been clamping down on people coming on visitors visa and playing sports in the last year.
Local cricket club here got fined £10,000 for playing a overseas player, who is not a professional, whilst he was on a visitor visa.
The ruling we was told for this season is any player that has played at a level above a completely amateur level (ie if he has ever been paid for playing his sport or if he has played at a regional, county or national level) they must be here on a work visa and Cadby counts as that imo
I know one club last season was told they would be fined for picking a player because he was a Aussie on holiday and he once played regional cricket at a under 17 level.
malcy93 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:27 pm
So although never admitted looks like Cadby got a 1 year entry ban for illegal playing professionally on a tourist visa.
Should have gone home after 2018 Q School and applied for a visa in Australia as could apply for the sports person one.
You only need a Standard Visitor' visa to be able to participate in sporting events.
Since he didn't have a tour card when he came in 2017 it would have been appropriate.
With a tour card, the Sportsperson Visa then became appropriate since the PDC would sponsor him.
He might have had a Visitor's visa but overstayed his original itinerary.
That’s not true the government have been clamping down on people coming on visitors visa and playing sports in the last year.
Local cricket club here got fined £10,000 for playing a overseas player, who is not a professional, whilst he was on a visitor visa.
The ruling we was told for this season is any player that has played at a level above a completely amateur level (ie if he has ever been paid for playing his sport or if he has played at a regional, county or national level) they must be here on a work visa and Cadby counts as that imo
I know one club last season was told they would be fined for picking a player because he was a Aussie on holiday and he once played regional cricket at a under 17 level.
When Cadby went to the UK, he was going to compete as an individual in the World Championships and Q School. That's covered by the Visitor visa, which allows participating in _specific_ sporting events. The key thing is that those are competitions where he'd had to win to earn money, or didn't earn anything. He wasn't being paid to play, which would come under a separate visa.
What the government is trying to do is to crack down on people coming in on a visitor visa either to circumvent the requirements of other visas, or to try to arrange paid play after they enter.
malcy93 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:27 pm
So although never admitted looks like Cadby got a 1 year entry ban for illegal playing professionally on a tourist visa.
Should have gone home after 2018 Q School and applied for a visa in Australia as could apply for the sports person one.
You only need a Standard Visitor' visa to be able to participate in sporting events.
Since he didn't have a tour card when he came in 2017 it would have been appropriate.
With a tour card, the Sportsperson Visa then became appropriate since the PDC would sponsor him.
He might have had a Visitor's visa but overstayed his original itinerary.
That’s not true the government have been clamping down on people coming on visitors visa and playing sports in the last year.
Local cricket club here got fined £10,000 for playing a overseas player, who is not a professional, whilst he was on a visitor visa.
The ruling we was told for this season is any player that has played at a level above a completely amateur level (ie if he has ever been paid for playing his sport or if he has played at a regional, county or national level) they must be here on a work visa and Cadby counts as that imo
I know one club last season was told they would be fined for picking a player because he was a Aussie on holiday and he once played regional cricket at a under 17 level.
When Cadby went to the UK, he was going to compete as an individual in the World Championships and Q School. That's covered by the Visitor visa, which allows participating in _specific_ sporting events. The key thing is that those are competitions where he'd had to win to earn money, or didn't earn anything. He wasn't being paid to play, which would come under a separate visa.
What the government is trying to do is to crack down on people coming in on a visitor visa either to circumvent the requirements of other visas, or to try to arrange paid play after they enter.
But the problem is he had already played in professional events in Australia and by the point of the world championship and Qschool he had already played in a PDC World series event In New Zealand winning £10k, a PDC major in Scotland where he earnt £7.5k and a PDC Major in England where he earnt 7.5k
In the government eyes by the point of the worlds where he decided to stay in the UK he was a professional player and should have got a work visa.
malcy93 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:27 pm
So although never admitted looks like Cadby got a 1 year entry ban for illegal playing professionally on a tourist visa.
Should have gone home after 2018 Q School and applied for a visa in Australia as could apply for the sports person one.
You only need a Standard Visitor' visa to be able to participate in sporting events.
Since he didn't have a tour card when he came in 2017 it would have been appropriate.
With a tour card, the Sportsperson Visa then became appropriate since the PDC would sponsor him.
He might have had a Visitor's visa but overstayed his original itinerary.
That’s not true the government have been clamping down on people coming on visitors visa and playing sports in the last year.
Local cricket club here got fined £10,000 for playing a overseas player, who is not a professional, whilst he was on a visitor visa.
The ruling we was told for this season is any player that has played at a level above a completely amateur level (ie if he has ever been paid for playing his sport or if he has played at a regional, county or national level) they must be here on a work visa and Cadby counts as that imo
I know one club last season was told they would be fined for picking a player because he was a Aussie on holiday and he once played regional cricket at a under 17 level.
When Cadby went to the UK, he was going to compete as an individual in the World Championships and Q School. That's covered by the Visitor visa, which allows participating in _specific_ sporting events. The key thing is that those are competitions where he'd had to win to earn money, or didn't earn anything. He wasn't being paid to play, which would come under a separate visa.
What the government is trying to do is to crack down on people coming in on a visitor visa either to circumvent the requirements of other visas, or to try to arrange paid play after they enter.
But the problem is he had already played in professional events in Australia and by the point of the world championship and Qschool he had already played in a PDC World series event In New Zealand winning £10k, a PDC major in Scotland where he earnt £7.5k and a PDC Major in England where he earnt 7.5k
In the government eyes by the point of the worlds where he decided to stay in the UK he was a professional player and should have got a work visa.
The Visitors visa allows you to come _on business_ for a specific sporting event.
It's On The Bloody Website wrote:
f you visit the UK on business
You can apply for a Standard Visitor visa if you want to visit the UK for business-related activities, for example:
you’re coming to the UK for a conference, meeting or training you want to take part in a specific sports-related event
Can't get much more professional than visiting the UK on business to take part in a sports-related event.
But it's a _specific_ _event_, and it would have to be on the application. You can't say you're a tourist and then be playing.
Those cases you described are immigration taking a hard line to stop low-level pros from claiming they're just visiting, but sniffing around for paid play in semi-pro competition.
Think your missing the point, the issue wasn’t when he came over for one event it’s once the worlds finished he decided to stay in the uk and did so from December to April (at least) taking part in darts tournaments in that time.
At the point he decided to not return home he needed a visa and by that point he’s considered a professional wanting to work in the uk and would have needed a a full visa.
Zapp Brannigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:34 pm
Think your missing the point, the issue wasn’t when he came over for one event it’s once the worlds finished he decided to stay in the uk and did so from December to April (at least) taking part in darts tournaments in that time.
At the point he decided to not return home he needed a visa and by that point he’s considered a professional wanting to work in the uk and would have needed a a full visa.
No. I'm not missing the point.
I replied to a post in which somebody said he played professionally illegally on a tourist visa.
My point was that he only needed a Visitor visa to play legally, and he might have had one, but might have overstayed it.
That is, he might not have had a tourist visa (that's a Visitor visa which you apply to visit as a tourist), and that his being a professional wasn't necessarily the reason for the ban. Just a long overstay is enough for a one year ban.
Bomber wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:32 pm
hopefully he will hit the ground running and shake things up a bit more, match-ups with the Metropolitan Police, Lancashire Constabulary and some stewards at the Winter Gardens
