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Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:03 pm
by ChrisW
ssjsa wrote:
Ginge wrote:No surprise the only night they appear in the top 10 was the night there was no other darts on.

Saying that the figures for the other darts hardly look amazing. All sessions between 50 and 95k by the looks.
Personally always watch PDC darts on Sky, PDC tv or whatever terrestrial channel it is on, but given the proliferation of free streams available for all sports and the continuing increase in Sky subscription charges, it is no surprise that Sky viewing numbers are on the wane.
It's not good though.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:12 pm
by ssjsa
ChrisW wrote:
ssjsa wrote:
Ginge wrote:No surprise the only night they appear in the top 10 was the night there was no other darts on.

Saying that the figures for the other darts hardly look amazing. All sessions between 50 and 95k by the looks.
Personally always watch PDC darts on Sky, PDC tv or whatever terrestrial channel it is on, but given the proliferation of free streams available for all sports and the continuing increase in Sky subscription charges, it is no surprise that Sky viewing numbers are on the wane.
It's not good though.
Don't disagree Chris. Under 100k viewing figures are not good.

Clearly the pay channels are still doing ok, but don't know why they keep bidding higher, and offering more money for sporting rights when there are significantly greater numbers cancelling their subscriptions and using free streams instead.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:16 pm
by BlueSpark
Were the Touring cars live or recorded?

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:32 pm
by devosteve
So the wdt peaked on the 1st night? And didn't pick up but dropped off?

how did the pdc world cup do re the peak viewing figures?

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:03 pm
by Little Lonely Garry
Ginge wrote:This is the top 10 for the record:

RUGBY AM (WED 1801) 50k
SWEDISH SPEEDWAY 2018 (TUE 2230) 36k
NATIONAL CONFERENCE LEAGUE (SAT 1601) 30k
POLISH SPEEDWAY 2018 (TUE 2030) 24k
TOULON TOURNAMENT (WED 2308) 24k
TOULON TOURNAMENT (TUE 1825) 21k
DTM (GERMANY TOURING CARS) (SUN 1605) 12k
DTM (GERMANY TOURING CARS) (SUN 1622) 11k
BDO DARTS (WED 1900) 10k
RUGBY LEAGUE BACKCHAT 2018 (THU 1800) 9k
:DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD:

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:56 pm
by Ginge
devosteve wrote:So the wdt peaked on the 1st night? And didn't pick up but dropped off?

how did the pdc world cup do re the peak viewing figures?
I already posted them, quoted at the top of this page.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:51 pm
by Case
Garry Murphy wrote:
Ginge wrote:This is the top 10 for the record:

RUGBY AM (WED 1801) 50k
SWEDISH SPEEDWAY 2018 (TUE 2230) 36k
NATIONAL CONFERENCE LEAGUE (SAT 1601) 30k
POLISH SPEEDWAY 2018 (TUE 2030) 24k
TOULON TOURNAMENT (WED 2308) 24k
TOULON TOURNAMENT (TUE 1825) 21k
DTM (GERMANY TOURING CARS) (SUN 1605) 12k
DTM (GERMANY TOURING CARS) (SUN 1622) 11k
BDO DARTS (WED 1900) 10k
RUGBY LEAGUE BACKCHAT 2018 (THU 1800) 9k
:DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD:
It's nice to see people laughing.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:39 pm
by Zapp Brannigan
Case wrote:
Garry Murphy wrote:
Ginge wrote:This is the top 10 for the record:

RUGBY AM (WED 1801) 50k
SWEDISH SPEEDWAY 2018 (TUE 2230) 36k
NATIONAL CONFERENCE LEAGUE (SAT 1601) 30k
POLISH SPEEDWAY 2018 (TUE 2030) 24k
TOULON TOURNAMENT (WED 2308) 24k
TOULON TOURNAMENT (TUE 1825) 21k
DTM (GERMANY TOURING CARS) (SUN 1605) 12k
DTM (GERMANY TOURING CARS) (SUN 1622) 11k
BDO DARTS (WED 1900) 10k
RUGBY LEAGUE BACKCHAT 2018 (THU 1800) 9k
:DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD: :DDD:
It's nice to see people laughing.
It is terrible though and highlights the major problem the BDO has if they think they are going to go anywhere.

They have no TV deal with any channel and if any potential channel wants to see what their last production got on TV they will have to say it didnt even make 9,000 viewers for the final (as well as only selling about 50 tickets)

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:25 am
by Case
BDO needs to ask themselves what their goal is.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:38 am
by devosteve
50 tickets sold for the final for a televised BDO major. If you sit back and think about it; how bad is that?

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:52 am
by Skewball
It cannot be emphasised enough how disastrous this event was. Awful Viewers, Awful Production, Awful Prize Money, Massive Loss to BDO, Awful PR for their product,
Just awful.
Anyone involved in this in a normal Company would be instantly sacked. I am convinced virtually anyone on here could have done a better job.
There is simply no hiding how calamitous it was. I can't see anyone touching them with a barge-pole with regards decent TV/SPonsors etc.
And all that despite, as usual, some perfectly decent darts on show.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:28 am
by oche balboa
Skewball really wants the bdo to be dead

Re: RE: Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:37 am
by Ginge
oche balboa wrote:Skewball really wants the bdo to be dead
Do you disagree with anything he said?

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:46 am
by London Eye
Skewball wrote:It cannot be emphasised enough how disastrous this event was. Awful Viewers, Awful Production, Awful Prize Money, Massive Loss to BDO, Awful PR for their product,
Just awful.
Anyone involved in this in a normal Company would be instantly sacked. I am convinced virtually anyone on here could have done a better job.
There is simply no hiding how calamitous it was. I can't see anyone touching them with a barge-pole with regards decent TV/SPonsors etc.
And all that despite, as usual, some perfectly decent darts on show.
It's almost as if the Williams wanted it to fail to give Jacklin the worst possible start position come August. Will be tough negotiating with sponsors, venues and broadcasters following the biggest calamity of a tournament in history.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:03 pm
by Case
You might say that, i couldn't possibly comment.

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:07 pm
by Black Velvet
Tin foil hat time!

Re: WDT 2018 - the post mortem

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:09 pm
by Case
Do you have that moment every wednesday?