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Ginge wrote:Or they could have read the whole thing on Page 2 of this thread, of course.....
Oops. That is what I get for working all day and not reading all the posts on the forum. :grin:

Will delete now and concentrate on the Fury fight with my tail firmly between my legs. :DDD:
Dont think you will need to concentrate on it for very long, tbh.
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nikkiboy wrote:PROPOSAL SUGGESTIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE BDO
From: Derek Jacklin – BDO Director & Chairman Lincolnshire Darts Organisation
To BDO Member Counties & Members
Dear All
Further to the promise I made at the BDO EGM in Walsall on 29th April 2018 I have detailed below for the attention of all counties and their members an outline of some suggestions for taking the BDO forward which will form the basis of a full proposal that will be submitted for consideration at the BDO AGM on 5th August 2018
What I have put together on the following pages are some of my thoughts on what I hope are perceived as constructive ideas designed to bring a new dynamic to the BDO and the opportunities it presents to its players
I am eager to hear the comments from other counties as to how the proposals are received together with any enhancements felt necessary
For that reason I have not gone into any great detail the full proposal has been finalised with any suggestions from counties and lodged with the BDO but you can be assured that once the proposal has been lodged then all counties will be sent a full copy for appraisal before the AGM
Firstly, I would like to say how pleased I was with how the majority of you received my comments at the EGM
However, I do confess to disappointment with a minority that seemed unable to fully comprehend the magnitude of the business and cash flow problems that are clearly unfolding before our eyes and which will present a threat to the BDO’s financial stability if not addressed immediately
Unfortunately, within this minority there were some persuasive speakers whose input left us with a less than satisfactory outcome to the meeting which in actual fact will have an adverse effect on just about every aspect of the BDO until at least the AGM in August
For me the most disappointing outcome that despite the exposure of the large amounts of money that have been wasted over the last 12 x months certain delegates took a stance of empathy over those that had overseen these losses rather than reviewing them in the business manner that the situation demanded. I am sure that the BDO Counties did not elect their delegates to make decisions on their behalf based purely on management personnel they felt more comfortable with or felt sorry for.
The BDO is at a crossroads that calls for hard decisions taken on hard facts and I feel that at this meeting the counties were left in limbo
There had been circulated a letter from the Chairman notifying the decision taken by the Directors and that the most appropriate scenario for the period following after the EGM would be for me to be in a position where I could have started the ball rolling so to speak, but unfortunately their advice was rejected and I therefore I am not now in a position to do any preparatory work for the consideration and hopefully the benefit of the new Directors when they are elected.
I have however spoken to many personnel over the past months to ascertain views etc and I am heartened by the numbers that have put their names forward to help as it all bodes well for the future
I am under no illusion that all of the changes needed can be effected overnight and fully realise that not all of my proposals will meet with full approval and those that do will of course be subject to the strictest of scrutiny by the counties and those Directors elected to work with and apply them, all proposals will undergo processes of alteration, tweaking and whatever else is necessary to ensure that we have a BDO system that is fit for purpose and ready to be set to work as soon as is practicable.
I have below given a summary on what I see as the most important aspects and again I would appreciate your views on their content and viability:
YOUTH
I use this as my priority as it was a real sadness for me that because of the position of uncertainty that the BDO was left in after the EGM we have lost valuable time as well as opportunity to make a start with a credible Youth Programme and the downside of this uncertainty is that the new Youth scheme I describe below cannot now be implemented until 2019 which will be a matter of great regret to me and the team working with me
I have a real passion for the youth game and over the past 6 months myself together with some like-minded personnel who see that the future of the BDO in its status within the World of Sport depends on the development of a youth system and have been investigating the practicalities of a new youth tour, this new youth tour would hopefully see a first year minimum of 10 tournaments ( 5 in England 5 in Europe) that would be categorised in the same way as the adult tour and in actual fact be played alongside the existing adult tour giving the under 18 their own ranking tables rather than the current ( free for all ) at the Winmau World Masters. This would encourage the youth to play for something all year round and prepare them for the transition into the adult game and give our code more stability and with that worldwide recognition.

MANAGEMENT & CONTROL
A. BOARD OF DIRECTORS
At present we have only 5 directors, our rules state we need a minimum of 4 Directors and a maximum of 20 Directors
I believe in order to move forward now we need a minimum of 10 Directors and I am heartened to say there has been great interest from county personnel wishing to become involved so with these and further nominations from the counties I feel confident that the Director positions will be filled by those who have the experience and expertise required and whose sole aim is to take the BDO forward.
The expertise and knowledge that exists within the counties is our strength and has been overlooked for far too long and it is my intention to utilise that expertise to the BDO’s best advantage
To this end I would ask for nominations from which I can draft a full list of candidates and positions for presentation to the AGM
1. Chairman
2. Vice Chairman
3. Financial Director
4. Tournament Director
5. BDO Rules & Documentation Director
6. Rankings & Database Director = John Smith
7. Disciplinary Director
8. Men’s Players Director
9. Ladies Players Director
10. Merchandising Director [see below]
11. Director without portfolio [to hold a ‘floating’ brief]
Merchandising Director
As you know Merchandising Director John Weller is sadly retiring that the AGM and this will leave a void that must be filled. Please advise if interested in offering your services to this very important roie
Each of the above Directorships will carry a job description that will detail the duties they are responsible for and this will serve to ensure that for every action or inaction within a specific Directorship there is responsibility and accountability for those charged with carrying out those duties
It is also important to note that the new formation as suggested does not contradict the BDO Management structure that the counties agreed to in 2016
B. OTHER POSITIONS
There will then be several other positions created that do not require a Directorship but could carry the title of Executive Director or similar
• General Secretary
• Assistant to the Tournament Director
• Public Relations Officer
• I.T. & Website Officer
• BICC Officer
• Youth Officer
• Transport Manager [see also below]
• Etc., etc., as required
All of the above will play a vital role in the new way forward and again having spoken to may personnel over the past few weeks I am heartened by the response and willingness to help if needed
The Executive Directors will be appointed by the Board of Directors by application or nomination as and when required
It is possible that once this letter reaches the counties and they respond there may be other places available at the AGM, for example as part of my proposal there will be a split between BICC and the Professional game with a committee set up for both using the above Directors and any other person voted on at the AGM, there were to be a youth committee set up at the same time however due to the outcome of the EGM this committee will not be required just yet.
I am more than aware at the level of expertise with all things darts related that is available from those involved with the BICC and I fully intend to tap into those resources
Anyone who is interested in taking the BDO forward and who can give a little of their time will find themselves most welcome to lend a hand whether it be in an official capacity or just to help now and again
Technical Advisers
The use of this structure will also give the Directors an opportunity to seek assistance and advice from advisers with specialist skills who would be appointed as and when the need arises
The appointment of any Technical Advisor must meet with the approval of BDO Board Members and they would have an advisory role only and as such would not have any decision making or management responsibilities within the BDO.

BICC
It would be suggested that there be formed an Executive Committee comprising of relevant BDO Directors, Divisional Directors, UK National Darts bodies and elected County representatives who shall have overall administration control of the BICC
There will still of course be County Delegate meetings to cover and vote on BICC and Member only events issues and who will not be concerned with issues relating solely to the professional game.
I do have a plan ready to set in place that, if allowed, will considerably cut the cost of County fees and will hopefully enable us to put money back into the Counties, this was something we have looked at very closely as many Counties are struggling financially.
TRANSPORT MANAGER
You will also notice in the section above (OTHER POSITIONS ) the position of Transport Manager, I would like to explain this new position and what It means to BICC.
It is no secret that Lincolnshire look after its players and pay for all room costs for both County and professional tour travellers, this is because of the relationships we have with hotel chains and as a result the extraordinary deals we get, but that got me thinking as to, why couldn’t every County team playing away book through the BDO and get these great room rate offers?
We are in negotiations with 3 well known Hotel chains to work with the BDO, this will mean that the Transport Manager will be the Counties best friend and wherever possible both book the rooms and get the possible rate for the County, this will both alleviate the stress of the County booking and save the County money.
PROFESSIONAL GAME
There will be a Professional Game Executive Committee made up of the Directors and suitable candidates from UK National Darts bodies, Counties (this will no doubt include some players).
This committee will be responsible for all decisions made regarding the BDO tour but will not make decisions regarding the BICC.
TRANSPARENCY
Well I think that I more than proved to everyone that this will never be an issue ever again, with the exception of anything commercially sensitive the players and county officials will be the first to know anything and there will be regular statements and updates on the new BDO website and across all social media.
MEMBERSHIP SCHEME
Plans must be set in place whereby every player within the BDO system from super league all the way up to the top professionals on our tour will become a member of the BDO in some way or another and I cannot stress the importance of this as its success will create revenue enabling us to give better prize monies, provide better venues and cut BICC fees.
The instigation of a structured membership system is critical if we are to exercise our commitment to carrying out our responsibilities in the new GDPR Legislation
MY PROMISE TO YOU
It is my aim to do my utmost to turn around the perception of the BDO, to furnish you with the information that you need to take back to your Counties to make informed decisions.
It will be my job to make your darting life easier, to have a more “arms around” approach to enhance county participation and awareness, to bring the social darts player back into our sport, to negotiate new and exciting venues and sponsors to take our organisation forward.
I’m hoping that I will soon be in a position to inform you all of the venue and dates for the World Professionals, WINMAU and WDT for the next 3 years
FINALLY
Please give consideration to the foregoing and if you have any nominations for personnel then please let me know as I intend to circulate to counties all known details plus a more concise breakdown of my ideas for the future in good time for your perusal before what will hopefully be a milestone BDO AGM
We have some good people standing by to help why not become one of them?
Please do not hesitate to contact me on any of the foregoing
Yours most sincerely and in the Sport of Darts
Des Jacklin 8th June 2018
Complete load of pish.

Lots of rhetoric, but very little substance.

For instance 11 directors and a minimum of 7 more executive appointments. No mention of how this is going to be funded.

In setting up, or restructuring any business, cost projections are a pivotal part of any business plan, and have to say I doubt very much if this has been considered.
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Ginge wrote:
ssjsa wrote:
Ginge wrote:Or they could have read the whole thing on Page 2 of this thread, of course.....
Oops. That is what I get for working all day and not reading all the posts on the forum. :grin:

Will delete now and concentrate on the Fury fight with my tail firmly between my legs. :DDD:
Dont think you will need to concentrate on it for very long, tbh.
Surprised it lasted 4 rounds tbh.
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nikkiboy wrote:PROPOSAL SUGGESTIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE BDO
From: Derek Jacklin – BDO Director & Chairman Lincolnshire Darts Organisation
To BDO Member Counties & Members
Dear All
Further to the promise I made at the BDO EGM in Walsall on 29th April 2018 I have detailed below for the attention of all counties and their members an outline of some suggestions for taking the BDO forward which will form the basis of a full proposal that will be submitted for consideration at the BDO AGM on 5th August 2018
What I have put together on the following pages are some of my thoughts on what I hope are perceived as constructive ideas designed to bring a new dynamic to the BDO and the opportunities it presents to its players
I am eager to hear the comments from other counties as to how the proposals are received together with any enhancements felt necessary
For that reason I have not gone into any great detail the full proposal has been finalised with any suggestions from counties and lodged with the BDO but you can be assured that once the proposal has been lodged then all counties will be sent a full copy for appraisal before the AGM
Firstly, I would like to say how pleased I was with how the majority of you received my comments at the EGM
However, I do confess to disappointment with a minority that seemed unable to fully comprehend the magnitude of the business and cash flow problems that are clearly unfolding before our eyes and which will present a threat to the BDO’s financial stability if not addressed immediately
Unfortunately, within this minority there were some persuasive speakers whose input left us with a less than satisfactory outcome to the meeting which in actual fact will have an adverse effect on just about every aspect of the BDO until at least the AGM in August
For me the most disappointing outcome that despite the exposure of the large amounts of money that have been wasted over the last 12 x months certain delegates took a stance of empathy over those that had overseen these losses rather than reviewing them in the business manner that the situation demanded. I am sure that the BDO Counties did not elect their delegates to make decisions on their behalf based purely on management personnel they felt more comfortable with or felt sorry for.
The BDO is at a crossroads that calls for hard decisions taken on hard facts and I feel that at this meeting the counties were left in limbo
There had been circulated a letter from the Chairman notifying the decision taken by the Directors and that the most appropriate scenario for the period following after the EGM would be for me to be in a position where I could have started the ball rolling so to speak, but unfortunately their advice was rejected and I therefore I am not now in a position to do any preparatory work for the consideration and hopefully the benefit of the new Directors when they are elected.
I have however spoken to many personnel over the past months to ascertain views etc and I am heartened by the numbers that have put their names forward to help as it all bodes well for the future
I am under no illusion that all of the changes needed can be effected overnight and fully realise that not all of my proposals will meet with full approval and those that do will of course be subject to the strictest of scrutiny by the counties and those Directors elected to work with and apply them, all proposals will undergo processes of alteration, tweaking and whatever else is necessary to ensure that we have a BDO system that is fit for purpose and ready to be set to work as soon as is practicable.
I have below given a summary on what I see as the most important aspects and again I would appreciate your views on their content and viability:
YOUTH
I use this as my priority as it was a real sadness for me that because of the position of uncertainty that the BDO was left in after the EGM we have lost valuable time as well as opportunity to make a start with a credible Youth Programme and the downside of this uncertainty is that the new Youth scheme I describe below cannot now be implemented until 2019 which will be a matter of great regret to me and the team working with me
I have a real passion for the youth game and over the past 6 months myself together with some like-minded personnel who see that the future of the BDO in its status within the World of Sport depends on the development of a youth system and have been investigating the practicalities of a new youth tour, this new youth tour would hopefully see a first year minimum of 10 tournaments ( 5 in England 5 in Europe) that would be categorised in the same way as the adult tour and in actual fact be played alongside the existing adult tour giving the under 18 their own ranking tables rather than the current ( free for all ) at the Winmau World Masters. This would encourage the youth to play for something all year round and prepare them for the transition into the adult game and give our code more stability and with that worldwide recognition.

MANAGEMENT & CONTROL
A. BOARD OF DIRECTORS
At present we have only 5 directors, our rules state we need a minimum of 4 Directors and a maximum of 20 Directors
I believe in order to move forward now we need a minimum of 10 Directors and I am heartened to say there has been great interest from county personnel wishing to become involved so with these and further nominations from the counties I feel confident that the Director positions will be filled by those who have the experience and expertise required and whose sole aim is to take the BDO forward.
The expertise and knowledge that exists within the counties is our strength and has been overlooked for far too long and it is my intention to utilise that expertise to the BDO’s best advantage
To this end I would ask for nominations from which I can draft a full list of candidates and positions for presentation to the AGM
1. Chairman
2. Vice Chairman
3. Financial Director
4. Tournament Director
5. BDO Rules & Documentation Director
6. Rankings & Database Director = John Smith
7. Disciplinary Director
8. Men’s Players Director
9. Ladies Players Director
10. Merchandising Director [see below]
11. Director without portfolio [to hold a ‘floating’ brief]
Merchandising Director
As you know Merchandising Director John Weller is sadly retiring that the AGM and this will leave a void that must be filled. Please advise if interested in offering your services to this very important roie
Each of the above Directorships will carry a job description that will detail the duties they are responsible for and this will serve to ensure that for every action or inaction within a specific Directorship there is responsibility and accountability for those charged with carrying out those duties
It is also important to note that the new formation as suggested does not contradict the BDO Management structure that the counties agreed to in 2016
B. OTHER POSITIONS
There will then be several other positions created that do not require a Directorship but could carry the title of Executive Director or similar
• General Secretary
• Assistant to the Tournament Director
• Public Relations Officer
• I.T. & Website Officer
• BICC Officer
• Youth Officer
• Transport Manager [see also below]
• Etc., etc., as required
All of the above will play a vital role in the new way forward and again having spoken to may personnel over the past few weeks I am heartened by the response and willingness to help if needed
The Executive Directors will be appointed by the Board of Directors by application or nomination as and when required
It is possible that once this letter reaches the counties and they respond there may be other places available at the AGM, for example as part of my proposal there will be a split between BICC and the Professional game with a committee set up for both using the above Directors and any other person voted on at the AGM, there were to be a youth committee set up at the same time however due to the outcome of the EGM this committee will not be required just yet.
I am more than aware at the level of expertise with all things darts related that is available from those involved with the BICC and I fully intend to tap into those resources
Anyone who is interested in taking the BDO forward and who can give a little of their time will find themselves most welcome to lend a hand whether it be in an official capacity or just to help now and again
Technical Advisers
The use of this structure will also give the Directors an opportunity to seek assistance and advice from advisers with specialist skills who would be appointed as and when the need arises
The appointment of any Technical Advisor must meet with the approval of BDO Board Members and they would have an advisory role only and as such would not have any decision making or management responsibilities within the BDO.

BICC
It would be suggested that there be formed an Executive Committee comprising of relevant BDO Directors, Divisional Directors, UK National Darts bodies and elected County representatives who shall have overall administration control of the BICC
There will still of course be County Delegate meetings to cover and vote on BICC and Member only events issues and who will not be concerned with issues relating solely to the professional game.
I do have a plan ready to set in place that, if allowed, will considerably cut the cost of County fees and will hopefully enable us to put money back into the Counties, this was something we have looked at very closely as many Counties are struggling financially.
TRANSPORT MANAGER
You will also notice in the section above (OTHER POSITIONS ) the position of Transport Manager, I would like to explain this new position and what It means to BICC.
It is no secret that Lincolnshire look after its players and pay for all room costs for both County and professional tour travellers, this is because of the relationships we have with hotel chains and as a result the extraordinary deals we get, but that got me thinking as to, why couldn’t every County team playing away book through the BDO and get these great room rate offers?
We are in negotiations with 3 well known Hotel chains to work with the BDO, this will mean that the Transport Manager will be the Counties best friend and wherever possible both book the rooms and get the possible rate for the County, this will both alleviate the stress of the County booking and save the County money.
PROFESSIONAL GAME
There will be a Professional Game Executive Committee made up of the Directors and suitable candidates from UK National Darts bodies, Counties (this will no doubt include some players).
This committee will be responsible for all decisions made regarding the BDO tour but will not make decisions regarding the BICC.
TRANSPARENCY
Well I think that I more than proved to everyone that this will never be an issue ever again, with the exception of anything commercially sensitive the players and county officials will be the first to know anything and there will be regular statements and updates on the new BDO website and across all social media.
MEMBERSHIP SCHEME
Plans must be set in place whereby every player within the BDO system from super league all the way up to the top professionals on our tour will become a member of the BDO in some way or another and I cannot stress the importance of this as its success will create revenue enabling us to give better prize monies, provide better venues and cut BICC fees.
The instigation of a structured membership system is critical if we are to exercise our commitment to carrying out our responsibilities in the new GDPR Legislation
MY PROMISE TO YOU
It is my aim to do my utmost to turn around the perception of the BDO, to furnish you with the information that you need to take back to your Counties to make informed decisions.
It will be my job to make your darting life easier, to have a more “arms around” approach to enhance county participation and awareness, to bring the social darts player back into our sport, to negotiate new and exciting venues and sponsors to take our organisation forward.
I’m hoping that I will soon be in a position to inform you all of the venue and dates for the World Professionals, WINMAU and WDT for the next 3 years
FINALLY
Please give consideration to the foregoing and if you have any nominations for personnel then please let me know as I intend to circulate to counties all known details plus a more concise breakdown of my ideas for the future in good time for your perusal before what will hopefully be a milestone BDO AGM
We have some good people standing by to help why not become one of them?
Please do not hesitate to contact me on any of the foregoing
Yours most sincerely and in the Sport of Darts
Des Jacklin 8th June 2018
Complete load of pish.

Lots of rhetoric, but very little substance.

For instance 11 directors and a minimum of 7 more executive appointments. No mention of how this is going to be funded.

In setting up, or restructuring any business, cost projections are a pivotal part of any business plan, and have to say I doubt very much if this has been considered.
Little substance you say ! Bearing in mind that another board member has been saying there will be a well respected BDO man standing against Des , at this moment he would be foolish to detail all of his plans as they could be used by his opponent , but he stated detailed information will be sent to counties in time for them to be circulated to delegates and their players in time to be discussed before the AGM .
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Until cost breakdowns are printed then this is just Fantasy Island, and even when they are it will be worse. It's not sustainable, it won't be profitable and it won't be "darts for all".
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Wubbalubbadubdub wrote:Until cost breakdowns are printed then this is just Fantasy Island, and even when they are it will be worse. It's not sustainable, it won't be profitable and it won't be "darts for all".
Thank god ;)
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Just my hungover points on it all

Splitting the top table and the county delegates apart and moving the bicc away from important decisions is a good move - but is the sole reason why he won’t get voted in, no way half of the delegates will accept in losing their important place at the delegates meeting.

Youth idea is good - but it’s already out there and if there’s one group of people you shouldn’t be drawing battle lines with it’s the youth and juniors.


I don’t disagree with 10 directors, IF it’s to replace the 50 odd delegates in decision making and turn it into a proper business board, but the idea of bringing it in from bdo people doesn’t make any sense. If it’s now an open position go and find some people that will work for you.

Charging super league players will never work. I’ve said it hundred of times but super league is dead round here. I think you only play about 8 super league games a year for humberside
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Zapp Brannigan wrote:Just my hungover points on it all

Splitting the top table and the county delegates apart and moving the bicc away from important decisions is a good move - but is the sole reason why he won’t get voted in, no way half of the delegates will accept in losing their important place at the delegates meeting.

Youth idea is good - but it’s already out there and if there’s one group of people you shouldn’t be drawing battle lines with it’s the youth and juniors.


I don’t disagree with 10 directors, IF it’s to replace the 50 odd delegates in decision making and turn it into a proper business board, but the idea of bringing it in from bdo people doesn’t make any sense. If it’s now an open position go and find some people that will work for you.

Charging super league players will never work. I’ve said it hundred of times but super league is dead round here. I think you only play about 8 super league games a year for humberside
Super League here is thriving. For all we know a "BDO Membership" could only be a couple of quid and I wouldn't be surprised if you "get something" for it.
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A Pub I play darts for has a bowling green. I've been told if I want to play in a league I have to pay a one-off £25 to 'get my card' which would allow me to play in any league.
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A complimentary bag of Werthers Originals?
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Moongoose McQueeen wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:Just my hungover points on it all

Splitting the top table and the county delegates apart and moving the bicc away from important decisions is a good move - but is the sole reason why he won’t get voted in, no way half of the delegates will accept in losing their important place at the delegates meeting.

Youth idea is good - but it’s already out there and if there’s one group of people you shouldn’t be drawing battle lines with it’s the youth and juniors.


I don’t disagree with 10 directors, IF it’s to replace the 50 odd delegates in decision making and turn it into a proper business board, but the idea of bringing it in from bdo people doesn’t make any sense. If it’s now an open position go and find some people that will work for you.

Charging super league players will never work. I’ve said it hundred of times but super league is dead round here. I think you only play about 8 super league games a year for humberside
Super League here is thriving. For all we know a "BDO Membership" could only be a couple of quid and I wouldn't be surprised if you "get something" for it.
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Moongoose McQueeen wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:Just my hungover points on it all

Splitting the top table and the county delegates apart and moving the bicc away from important decisions is a good move - but is the sole reason why he won’t get voted in, no way half of the delegates will accept in losing their important place at the delegates meeting.

Youth idea is good - but it’s already out there and if there’s one group of people you shouldn’t be drawing battle lines with it’s the youth and juniors.


I don’t disagree with 10 directors, IF it’s to replace the 50 odd delegates in decision making and turn it into a proper business board, but the idea of bringing it in from bdo people doesn’t make any sense. If it’s now an open position go and find some people that will work for you.

Charging super league players will never work. I’ve said it hundred of times but super league is dead round here. I think you only play about 8 super league games a year for humberside
Super League here is thriving. For all we know a "BDO Membership" could only be a couple of quid and I wouldn't be surprised if you "get something" for it.
Super league might be thriving in your area, but a county near me doesn’t even have a super league despite a few attempts to get one stared.

The ‘BDO membership’ just seems like a tax on the poor, shit dart players. #dartsforall
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Original Letter in 2011:



Subject: Board of Directors
Dear County Official
For some time now the Board of the BDO have in our opinion failed in many areas. It is our belief that significant change is needed to the direction of the BDO; subsequently we have offered our nominations to be elected as board members at the forthcoming BDO AGM.
We have structured a proposed document which outlines our belief in how the organisation should proceed in the future, a copy of which I have attached.
If anyone has any questions which they wish to ask any prospective member then please feel free to contact us.
Yours in the Sport of Darts
Signed: Martin Adams; Chairman IDPA – World Professional Champion, Sue Getty; BICC Premier Division Director – Wales Youth Officer, Barry Gilbey; Chairman Essex CDO – International Darts Referee, Derek Weston; Chairman Scottish Youth Darts – Chairman, Wayne Williams; Secretary Welsh Darts Organisation – Chairman Glamorgan CDO
BASE OUTLINE ON THE FUTURE OF THE
BRITISH DARTS ORGANISATION
This document will provide the basis for the direction of the British Darts Organisation (BDO) for the foreseeable future. The outline will be categorised and in some part detailed, however this is only intended as a framework and as such not a definitive document.
The categories listed below are in no particular order, nor does its listing provide a specific prioritisation. Similarly until all funds are made apparent the speed in which this framework could be implemented is under question.
The categories under review are not limited to those below however we believe these categories will provide the main structure for any evolvement within the organisation.
British Counties and Countries
Youth
Ladies
Tournaments
BICC
Sponsorship
World Rankings
Venues
Media
Equipment
Marketing
Officials
Website
WDF
Professional Players
IDPA
PDC
BRITISH COUNTIES AND COUNTRIES
There has to be a closer bond between the Counties, Countries and the Board of the BDO. The counties we believe need to feel that the Board of Directors are working for them, that the system works for them and that they are an integral part of the system. To that end there is a need for the system to be looked at and improved. Whether it be the way paperwork is distributed and handled, to the way meetings are conducted a complete inspection of the system is needed.
Furthermore the way in which the BDO deal with the Countries is another aspect which also requires looking at. The communication between the BDO, England, Scotland and Wales is something which needs urgently looking at. Each Country has its own agenda and pace which at times neither fits neatly into the BDO nor the way it works. To this end the
BDO needs to understand each countries requirements and with that will come a united approach. To that extent the Board needs to sit down with the various Countries and include them in the framework for the future.

YOUTH
This is an area which has been long in need of a defined structure. The current regime has continually neglected this area, throwing together a few competitions and claiming it is looking after the future of tomorrow.
The system in place at the moment is fundamentally driven by individual counties under the auspice of the Northern and Southern Inter County Youth Leagues. Few individual counties have specific structures, such as a Youth Superleague or an Academy.
Where academies have been set up by individuals, or groups of individuals, rather than as a County system, they have in the main been either sponsored or part sponsored by Unicorn the main board manufacturer of the PDC. Subsequently the PDC have now claimed these Academies are their own.
The introduction of the PDC World Youth Championship in 2010 was quite rightly hailed as a success. Following this tournament the PDC has now introduced a Youth Circuit which is going to produce a new breed ofyoung player no longer in need of the BDO system.
Therefore it is essential a structure is placed into the BDO system for the youth. The structure must be inclusive of all, and not as is currently within the PDC focused on the elite players. However the elite youth players must be recognised and nurtured ensuring they have both short and long term goals which should help them stay within the BDO system.
To provide this system the BDO must have a Director who is both experienced within the setting up of youth systems (Academies), and has the drive and passion to develop not only a system, but also a network of regional and area centres and representatives which will develop the player, referee and official of tomorrow.
It will be down to this Director to initially establish a system and framework which will benefit the BDO and the youth. This framework must include development of the current Child Protection System which at the moment has little leadership nor direction. It is also essential that individual counties take a greater responsibility for their Youth
system. Currently there are several counties who have youth teams but do not interact with either their youth committee or indeed the players who represent their county.
Ultimately the new system will incorporate the huge potential darts can play within the education process, a source currently untapped within the BDO system. In conjunction with this the top players within the BDO system should be encouraged to attend and heighten their profiles within these academies.
LADIES
The Ladies game has been the most disappointing aspect within the system. To restore the game to where it was five years ago in the terms of Ladies participating at tournaments will take several years. The number of Ladies participating within the BICC does not appear to have diminished, so the answer must lay elsewhere.
The general standard of the game appears, with the exception of the top five or six Ladies, to have slipped. The averages within the BICC five years ago would have seen most teams in the top division averaging over 20, now however the norm is around 19. Whilst this only equates to around a point per match it is normally being held up by individual players having 23+ averages, thus the general standard of play within the team has diminished.
I believe that in the long term the youth project will restore the numbers back into the sport; however this is obviously not a short term and maybe not even a mid term fix. I believe to find the solution will take several influential figures within the sport to debate within the system as to the reasons why numbers have reduced.
If you ask the top players you will not find the answer because they still attend tournaments all over Europe on a weekly basis. It is the average Lady playing within the BICC where the questions must be asked. To do this a set of questions need to be set down whereby at the end of the assessment there is not only a general idea of why the numbers have diminished, but also some thoughts and ideas as to how the Ladies game can be resurrected.
TOURNAMENTS
We believe this subject needs to be split up into several mini headings although some topics will overlap from one heading to another. The headings being, Opens, Members Only, Television Events, Tournament Structure and Prize Money.
OPENS
BDO organised Open events tend to be well supported; although the argument would be; do the events support the need of the member? At present there are just three open tournaments catered for in this country, together with the Torremolinos Open in Spain. The three events in this Country are the British Open, International Open and British Classic. I have not included the Camber Sands Festival as this is at present both an unknown quantity and also must have a doubt as to whether it will in fact get off the ground in 2012.
The British Open five years ago was a flourishing competition. The introduction of Setanta Sports to televise the latter stages had several effects. The first was that the singles event was moved from the Sunday to the Saturday; this ensured higher viewing figures for the TV and also, because of the TV coverage, raised the numbers entering the singles. However it lowered the numbers entering the Pairs, as many players took the opportunity to make their return journey during the day on the Sunday. Since Setanta folded the decision was taken to leave the Singles on the Saturday. Over the past couple of years numbers have dwindled in both the Mens and the Ladies. We believe this is partly because the event is on the Saturday; Bridlington the venue for the Open, being on the North East Coastline makes it difficult to get to
and from. Therefore some people do not want to travel in the rush hour on a Friday evening and feel that just to enter the singles is a waste of their time and money.
If the pairs was reintroduced to the Saturday and the singles Sunday this we believe would have an immediate uplift in numbers. A further reason why the numbers have dropped in the pairs is that the monies are not taken until the Sunday morning, thus no pre entries. This has the effect that if a player cant be bothered on a Sunday morning then they just won’t enter and it hasn’t cost them anything. Furthermore the Friday money in money out competition, if it is to be continued, has to reorganise itself so that it costs less to enter the building that enter the competition.
The International Open is the type of event which typifies the BDO and its ability to cater for all standards of player, both on the playing front, and also on the atmosphere and friendly environment front which is created during this weekend. The weekend gives an opportunity for the local pub player and his family to have a weekend of darts whilst at the same time as mixing with the stars. Given the current uncertainty with Pontins and the direction its buyers are going, if the facility at Brean Sands was to disappear then we believe it is essential that a similar facility be found to cater for this weekend.
The British Classic has for many years failed to find an identity within the calendar. Its placement within the calendar together with the fact it only has a singles competition makes it difficult to gather the amount of playing competitors usually associated with BDO competitions. The change in venue from Kettering to Braintree had two effects. The first was it was noticeable in that the entries declined. This would mainly be due to two things, one a move away from the centre
of the country, the second was that it was a new venue and this always has an effect. If you throw in the fact it was and still remains on a Saturday the entry numbers will deteriorate as individuals will not take the day off work just for one day of darts. The return to Kettering is a massive backward step in regard of the venue. The venue at Braintree had the ability to cope with any size of tournament, from the 300-400 players through to over a 1000 players with a stage and venue which had the ability to cater for an audience and unlimited TV resources.
Kettering in the meantime has proven to be unsatisfactory for both large numbers of competitors and also TV. This tournament has to be looked at with regards to its identity and viability on the current calendar date.
The Torremolinos Open has been on a fast track decline for the past three or four years. This tournament had for many years, been an ideal opportunity for darts in the Sun as the BDO advertised it. During the 80’s, 90’s and the early part of the 21st Century this tournament was unique in that the family could go on holiday to Southern Spain and incorporate a week of darts. Several issues have materialised over the past decade, none of which have been addressed by the current
administration. The issues which include the change in climate, the introduction of the Euro as the local currency, together with the poor playing venue, an increase in the cost of the holiday and the fact the same prize money is on offer now as was on offer 20 years ago. With all of these factors coming into account, this is a tournament which needs serious consideration on either its viability or structure.
MEMBERS ONLY
Currently there are definitively just two member’s only competitions the Gold Cup and the British Masters. The Gold Cup as with the British Masters provides a small window of opportunity for the local Superleague player to fast track themselves into the spotlight.
Both competitions, especially the British Masters require a rethink into how they are organised both initially and at the finals stage.
TELEVISION EVENTS
Currently just two events are televised, the Winmau World Masters and the Lakeside World Professional Championship. Prior to that Setanta Sports had televised four other events, however this only lasted one year. Previously there had been no British televised events, outside of the two majors, for several years. With the advent of many sports channels, together with the likes of ITV4 showing major sporting events it is an area which has significant potential. The introduction of ESPN into the game of darts and specifically the BDO can only be a major positive injection; however their introduction comes at a cost which is the loss of the BBC to the World Masters. The overall cost will only be identified in real terms once the event has taken place. However the fact that the event is televised at all gives the BDO hope for the future. The World Masters however is another competition which is in danger of losing its identity, over the past 12 months a new points
table was introduced so it was easier for all to track the World Masters rankings, with a now regular switch from the latter end of the year to September and back again means the competition has once again thrown up players being able to get two sets of points for one tournament or none at all depending on the date. It is essential the competition finds a stable date in the calendar.
The World Professional Championships is a week long event in which the BBC has several programmes and several hours which are needed to be filled. If this is continued with its afternoon programme then the BDO must take the opportunity to establish a five minute spot each day to promote the Organisation and its benefits.
TOURNAMENT STRUCTURE
The words structure and tournament have not been put together before within BDO tournaments. The attitude previously has been to put a tournament together and then decide what the format is going to be. Several issues need to be determined before any formal planning on this subject can be implemented; however a simple proforma would be to
increase the length of matches at certain points within tournaments. The higher the category of the tournament the longer the latter stages should be. As such it might be that the final of a category ‘A’ tournament would be a minimum of the best of five sets five legs to a set, however a category ‘C’ tournament might just be the minimum of the best of nine legs. Furthermore the categorisation in respect of the numbers entering a competition should be based on the previous year’s
numbers not the current years.
PRIZE MONEY
Several years ago it was introduced that the category of a tournament had to have a minimum first prize. This was supported by the number of entries into that competition. The current categorisation is dependant on the prize fund rather than the first prize; however there is no determination as to how the prize fund is distributed. We believe that each category should be dependant on both the first prize and also how the fund is distributed.
BICC
The BICC has since its inception been the flagship of the BDO. The function that on any one weekend in the region of 2300 dart players can represent their County and travel all over England, Scotland and Wales gives this competition huge potential for sponsorship and support. However the lack of any innovative ideas from the current board together with a consistent lack of sponsorship has degraded this competition enormously. The ability for counties to continue to produce
teams and sufficient finance for those teams to continue within the BICC is rapidly diminishing. The current climate means that sponsors are no longer willing to part with their money as readily as in previous years. Therefore it is the onus of the board of the BDO to provide as much assistance as possible. In 2008 it was agreed to increase the money which counties put into the BICC in order to fund the points for the ‘B’ teams. Whilst we believe that the current funding going into the BICC from the Counties is sufficient, the amount returned to the counties in the way of prize money is not. The BDO has cut its costs for the BICC year on year because of the introduction and implementation of the email system and then with the utilisation of DFW. However none of these savings have been passed onto the Counties.
The current income for the BICC from counties is approximately £41,000 and if the Superleague levy is included this takes it well over £50,000. With the outgoings in prize monies approximately £35,000 this leaves a minimum of a £15,000 shortfall. Whilst it is acknowledged that there is a significant amount of time and work put into the BICC we find it somewhat difficult to believe the cost of running the BICC comes close to £15,000. Therefore we believe two things can happen almost immediately, the first is to reassess the financial structure of the BICC and the second is to restructure the prize monies given to the counties. Furthermore there has been a long overdue need for the BICC to be given a facelift.
Many competitions, outside of darts, over the past two decades have been revamped in order to provide long term sustainability. In order for the BICC to move forward a major review on the competition is essential. A working party made up of the current BICC Directors together with nominated representatives from each division, including Scotland will be given the opportunity to sit down and recommend a pathway forward for the BICC.
SPONSORSHIP
For several years now, sponsorship for the BDO has been limited to just a few companies. With Lakeside and Winmau the two main sponsors a few other companies such as East Yorkshire Events, John Smiths, Jackpot Joy and Pontins have made up the remaining sponsors. The recent introduction of Rileys was according to the board going to bring significant new income to the counties. Unfortunately this has not been forthcoming, and where Counties have received income it is not a sustainable long term answer. Therefore it is essential that the BDO in its movement forward identifies new areas for sponsorship as well as enhancing relationships with the current loyal group. It will be the responsibility of one individual to undertake the role of maintaining the current relationships and also developing new clients. The current board have also failed in any bid they may have undertaken to identify minor sponsors. These are the type of companies such as water
manufacturers to sponsor the water placed on the stage. Another area maybe to sponsor individual boards at tournaments, if 32 boards were sponsored at £100 per board this money for instance would go a long way to paying for the accommodation for officials. The person who undertakes the role of obtaining sponsorship will be given the
opportunity to develop a new strategy in obtaining and maintaining clients.
WORLD RANKINGS
The current systems in use for the World Rankings are at best complicated and at worst unmanageable. The timings of competitions together with the many other criteria set down means that it is almost impossible to maintain accurate and current tables. Later in this document it will be outlined how to identify individual players, which currently seems to be an almost impossible task. This current year I am aware of at least four occasions where players have had their name either put in twice or put against the wrong player. Therefore a working party of new board members together with board members of the WDF will sit down and discuss a new pathway forward. Furthermore as outlined in the prize money section of open tournaments a review of how tournaments are graded will also be a part of any discussion.
VENUES
This topic will be included in several other subject matters when identifying new pathways. However it is obvious that on too many occasions over the past few years many venues currently in use are either too small or not suitable for purpose. With the introduction of technology certain criteria must be laid down prior to the approval of any venue. An example would be the televising of the British Classic by Setanta Sports. The venue used for the stage finals was woefully inadequate. It discouraged the audience and the TV commentators could be heard from the stage.
MEDIA
Currently the BDO is in a mixed position and lacking direction when it comes to the media. Robert Holmes who is employed by the BDO as a PR consultant also has the responsibility of media relations. The main areas of the media are Television, Radio and the written press. With regards to Television I believe the board have either failed to use Robert, or he has failed to gain the BDO suitable air time at the two major championships hosted by the BDO. Either way the BDO have failed to gain airtime to publicise the company, its assets and strategies. Radio and in particular local radio can be a useful tool in the promotion of individual counties, however it appears few counties utilise this tool. The written media are all too often falling on one side of the divide or the other; however the BDO cannot expect to gain vast coverage in the national press because of the current lack of major tournaments. It was muted in many circles that following the take
over of Darts World the BDO would lose its main source of media. However at the moment the coverage attained within the magazine is fair and proper, that being said unless there is a direction and strategy with regards to media coverage this may change.
EQUIPMENT
This is another area which has been totally neglected by the current board of directors. Much of the equipment utilised by the company is both outdated and not fit for purpose. The stands and cubicles utilised where the multi-board system is used are a disgrace. They look tired and worn and are extremely difficult and time consuming to assemble. Much of the electronic equipment used to update the scores once matches reach the stage has also seen better days and is also outdated.Subsequently this is another area where a strategy urgently needs to be put into place to upgrade and where necessary replace the equipment currently being used.
MARKETING
The BDO during its inception had carte blanche of the darting world when it came to marketing; however this is another area in which the company has failed to move forward. The Open and Televised Events where marketing is set up and run is usually profitable and a worthwhile exercise, however as described in earlier sections these only amount to six events covering some 25 days of the year. The inability of the board to see the enormous potential in this field has meant that many companies have emerged and in some cases their business is so strong that they employ several members of staff. The BDO has to form a strategy to find a place in this market and with that creating sustainable income which at present is going untapped.
OFFICIALS
The current system of providing officials is unmanageable. Too often at Open Events the control table is not only undermanned but also frequented by the same officials. At the end of the tournament those same officials have to perform duties on the stage, whether it is score recording, refereeing, marshalling players or just general duties. When it comes to the televised tournaments different officials then attend thus at times providing a skill shortage. A system has got to be
introduced by where there are sufficient officials at all events to ensure that those present are not having to do either too many or conflicting jobs. Furthermore the Televised Events are the showcase events for the BDO. All those officiating at these events should have not only attended some or all of the Opens but excelled in their position. Therefore a strategy needs to be implemented by where County Officials are both encouraged and given the opportunity to find their
niche at Open Tournaments. Having identified those people excelling in key areas, they should be the ones given the opportunity to replicate this at the Televised Events.
WEBSITE
This is another area whereby the current Board of Directors has failed its members. The members gave the board a mandate to bring in a professional company to build and maintain its website. The company, namely Net Sports, by its own admission were naïve in the sport of darts; however they had run many other sites and were looking to test
the types of systems which were successful in those other sports. The current Board of Directors however have failed in several areas. Whilst Net Sports built the website it has failed to provide several areas which are either desirable or essential to the sport of darts. Areas such as the previous history which was on the old website, links to other organisations, or an archive area are both examples of this. The front page is disjointed, has a poor impact and gives little reason for
any new user to stay. Couple this with the poor speed of updates to major competitions the new site has not been managed by those responsible. Therefore it is essential for the BDO to utilise the skills of a member in conjunction with the Board and Net Sports to move the website in a positive forward direction.
WDF/EDC
The BDO have several areas within which both the WDF (World Darts Federation) and the EDC (European Darts Council) have responsibility and also interests. Because of these parallel interests and the stature of the BDO there are currently members of the BDO board sitting on both the WDF and EDC boards. Previously it has been identified where working
with the WDF is an essential part of the progress required. There are several other areas of interest where all parties could be working together in a far more proactive manner to promote and improve the sport as a whole.
THE PROFFESIONAL GAME
If the BDO is to survive in its current format then the Professional, or top end, of the sport must be approached in a far more professional manner by the BDO. Ever since the inception of the PDC many players have just utilised the BDO as a stepping stone before moving across the divide.
This does not mean that millions of pounds need to be invested into the top end of the sport; moreover a direction needs to be found whereby players striving to get to the top of the game look towards the BDO as their focus rather than the PDC. It does mean that more money is required within tournaments it also means that players who go onto reach the latter stages of major tournaments are felt to be wanted at other events.
IDPA
The IDPA has for many years claimed to be the player’s voice within the BDO, despite there being a Players Director sitting on the Board. The current Board of Directors have over several years consulted with the IDPA when initiating new ideas, or when problems have arisen. The IDPA have themselves either introduced or tried to introduce strategies, initiatives or ventures into the system. Currently the IDPA appears to have little impact on the sport. Their membership does not fully
represent the top end of the game, which is where they see their role to exist. Subsequently it will be necessary to develop an association with the IDPA which provides a basis and substance for both their existence and their role within the sport.
PDC
Since its inception the PDC have set their own agenda, rules, regulations and guidelines all of which have been either directed at expanding their own side of the business or looking after their own players. In the meantime the BDO have failed to identify where the PDC sit within their system. The PDC has since its inception targeted the top end, be it the player or official, within the sport of darts.
Several players have decided to play within the PDC system having previously played within the BDO system. The PDC has as earlier stated, provided their own rules, regulations and guidelines for these players. In the meantime the BDO since the Tomlin Order has failed to provide any adequate safeguarding for either its member counties or the playing members within its own system. Therefore a structure by which everybody has an identifiable position is essential. This might be on the one extreme that any member of the PDC is not allowed entrance into a venue controlled by the BDO, to any member of the PDC can play in every single event controlled by the BDO. The PDC currently has just 128 playing members, so to provide a defined structure within which those members can or cannot participate within the BDO system is long
overdue.
IN CONCLUSION
The Board of Directors of the BDO have appeared for several years to rest on their laurels created from the darting hey day of the 1970’s and 1980’s. They seemed to be in cruise control through the 1990’s and then looked like they were taking their foot off the pedal at the turn of the century. This has created a massive void whereby other companies, organisations or associations have undertaken roles which were previously exclusive to the BDO. In order to re-establish the BDO as the controlling body of the game, whereby everyone looks up to the organisation will take several years. However a failure to act at this point in time will only act as putting a further nail in the coffin of the BDO. The Board of Directors must establish a working agenda and suitable timeline in which this work will be established.
At present the BDO has just one man for one job, which is fine until that one man is unable to do his job. When the job becomes vacant there is nobody who is able to pass on sufficient information to allow the work to be completed seamlessly. This has been highlighted by the website, the rights and the ability to place items onto the site rest with just one man. When he is unavailable the system does not work. The BDO must start to restructure itself whereby several people have the
ability to continue the work of others. In the normal workplace where somebody takes leave or is missing for other reasons the company, or a significant portion of the company doesn’t just stop. The Board of Directors must also implement several new strategies. The structuring of a Youth system, the restructuring of the BICC and the structuring of tournament play within the system must all be at the forefront of the new plans. The introduction of online registrations for tournaments, together with dedicated membership numbers are other areas which need to be explored.The current rules of darts need to be addressed with this being an instance where a group of senior members on both the playing and
officiating front could work in unison.
In short following the AGM it is time for the board of the BDO to once again start working for its members, come up with a plan of action, inform its members of the plan and then implement the said plan. This will almost certainly include some individuals who represent their counties taking a greater responsibility, similarly it will mean more individuals having to put their name to the plate and share the jobs around. It is time for the system to start working together which if it
does will see significant rewards not only financial but also in just gratification for everyone.
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For years we have moaned that the BDO is run like a working men's club committee so the answer is to appoint more directors and create several sub committees?
Have they not realised yet that there is so much bad feeling between certain people involved in the BDO that all this will do is further the divide and result in every proposal being blocked by someone on a committee or sub committee.

The members need to appoint a board of three and in turn they need to employ a management and a promotions expert, the days of "oh Dave's good with websites let's get him on the board to do it" are well and truly gone and is one reason why they are in the place they are.
PROFESSIONALS are more likely to do a professional job than well meaning volunteers. If Des wants to take over they can then either vote yes or no but this reads to me like let's put so and so on this committee and then so and so on that committee just to placate the nay sayers and get this passed, it is just asking for trouble imo.

Businesses run because there is an MD or operations director that make decisions and take responsibility for those decisions, if the PDC had several sub committees do you think they would be where they are now? It is run a team of people doing specific jobs yes but the decisions come from Barry Hearn or Matt Porter and that is what works.
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nikkiboy wrote:For years we have moaned that the BDO is run like a working men's club committee so the answer is to appoint more directors and create several sub committees?
Have they not realised yet that there is so much bad feeling between certain people involved in the BDO that all this will do is further the divide and result in every proposal being blocked by someone on a committee or sub committee.

The members need to appoint a board of three and in turn they need to employ a management and a promotions expert, the days of "oh Dave's good with websites let's get him on the board to do it" are well and truly gone and is one reason why they are in the place they are.
PROFESSIONALS are more likely to do a professional job than well meaning volunteers. If Des wants to take over they can then either vote yes or no but this reads to me like let's put so and so on this committee and then so and so on that committee just to placate the nay sayers and get this passed, it is just asking for trouble imo.

Businesses run because there is an MD or operations director that make decisions and take responsibility for those decisions, if the PDC had several sub committees do you think they would be where they are now? It is run a team of people doing specific jobs yes but the decisions come from Barry Hearn or Matt Porter and that is what works.

Far too much common sense.

You should put your name forward for the job!
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TheSandman wrote:
nikkiboy wrote:For years we have moaned that the BDO is run like a working men's club committee so the answer is to appoint more directors and create several sub committees?
Have they not realised yet that there is so much bad feeling between certain people involved in the BDO that all this will do is further the divide and result in every proposal being blocked by someone on a committee or sub committee.

The members need to appoint a board of three and in turn they need to employ a management and a promotions expert, the days of "oh Dave's good with websites let's get him on the board to do it" are well and truly gone and is one reason why they are in the place they are.
PROFESSIONALS are more likely to do a professional job than well meaning volunteers. If Des wants to take over they can then either vote yes or no but this reads to me like let's put so and so on this committee and then so and so on that committee just to placate the nay sayers and get this passed, it is just asking for trouble imo.

Businesses run because there is an MD or operations director that make decisions and take responsibility for those decisions, if the PDC had several sub committees do you think they would be where they are now? It is run a team of people doing specific jobs yes but the decisions come from Barry Hearn or Matt Porter and that is what works.

Far too much common sense.

You should put your name forward for the job!
Unfortunately the same block of "Blue Coated Welshman" would vote against him, as so the "Earthquake Survivors" of Lincs. ;-)
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The membership idea is fantastic, this could raise up to £300,000 per annum to be spent on competitions and promotions.
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Indeed raise a lot from the ordinary dart players to end up in the pockets of Durrant.
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Astonvilla wrote:Indeed raise a lot from the ordinary dart players to end up in the pockets of Durrant.
And in one sentence identifying why the BDO cannot cater for the grass roots and professional sides of the game.
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