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Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:09 pm
by Robson
PVDarts501 wrote:
Robson wrote:
Garry Murphy wrote:
Robson wrote:MVG is the best talent in the history of TV darts - But that doesnt make him the best player - Hes great on the floor - But crumbles too often at major events - This year alone - He crumbled at the Worlds - UK Open - And the big World Series event the PDC held - Look at the Matchplay and Grand Prix last year as well - He just doesnt handle pressure well -

So MVG is not that great cos he is not winning enough

Other shrooms complaining MVG wins too much.( disregarding their own bdo player Durrant who won lakeside, masters, finder, catastrophy etc)

Seems to me shrooms want to moan regardless and are moaning when he loses and moaning when he wins, and I am not even an MVG fan
Hes not that great because he cant handle pressure well -He often bottles it at major events -

Robson
How would you call Taylor's defeats to West, Van der Voort (WGP), Klaasen, Webster, Smith (Worlds), Aden Kirk (UK Open) then? Or defeats to MVG when Phil was leading by a few legs (Masters, Matchplay Grand Slam)? Losing a few teams doesn't mean you bottled it, it means you are not a robot.
Father time had caught up to Taylor when those defeats happened - Mr Taylor was much more dependable at his peak than what MVG is today -

Robson

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:25 pm
by Black Velvet
:DDD:

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:38 pm
by Case
Robson wrote:
PVDarts501 wrote:
Robson wrote:
Garry Murphy wrote:
Robson wrote:MVG is the best talent in the history of TV darts - But that doesnt make him the best player - Hes great on the floor - But crumbles too often at major events - This year alone - He crumbled at the Worlds - UK Open - And the big World Series event the PDC held - Look at the Matchplay and Grand Prix last year as well - He just doesnt handle pressure well -

So MVG is not that great cos he is not winning enough

Other shrooms complaining MVG wins too much.( disregarding their own bdo player Durrant who won lakeside, masters, finder, catastrophy etc)

Seems to me shrooms want to moan regardless and are moaning when he loses and moaning when he wins, and I am not even an MVG fan
Hes not that great because he cant handle pressure well -He often bottles it at major events -

Robson
How would you call Taylor's defeats to West, Van der Voort (WGP), Klaasen, Webster, Smith (Worlds), Aden Kirk (UK Open) then? Or defeats to MVG when Phil was leading by a few legs (Masters, Matchplay Grand Slam)? Losing a few teams doesn't mean you bottled it, it means you are not a robot.
Father time had caught up to Taylor when those defeats happened - Mr Taylor was much more dependable at his peak than what MVG is today -

Robson
Taylor had more ways to win other than just throwing great darts, nice to see MvG, Lewis, Anderson and Wright just playing the greatest darts they can.

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:53 pm
by Robson
Case wrote:
Robson wrote:
PVDarts501 wrote:
Robson wrote:
Garry Murphy wrote:

So MVG is not that great cos he is not winning enough

Other shrooms complaining MVG wins too much.( disregarding their own bdo player Durrant who won lakeside, masters, finder, catastrophy etc)

Seems to me shrooms want to moan regardless and are moaning when he loses and moaning when he wins, and I am not even an MVG fan
Hes not that great because he cant handle pressure well -He often bottles it at major events -

Robson
How would you call Taylor's defeats to West, Van der Voort (WGP), Klaasen, Webster, Smith (Worlds), Aden Kirk (UK Open) then? Or defeats to MVG when Phil was leading by a few legs (Masters, Matchplay Grand Slam)? Losing a few teams doesn't mean you bottled it, it means you are not a robot.
Father time had caught up to Taylor when those defeats happened - Mr Taylor was much more dependable at his peak than what MVG is today -

Robson
Taylor had more ways to win other than just throwing great darts, nice to see MvG, Lewis, Anderson and Wright just playing the greatest darts they can.
I hear you bud - Thats why I think Lowe is the best of them all - Bristow and Taylor played games on the oche - Lowe never did - A gentleman on and off the oche -

Robson

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:01 pm
by Duneh9617
Please don't take me seriously - I know nothing about darts - I know nothing about a lot of things tbh - like spending my time in a useful manner-

Robson

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:22 am
by Paddy McGinty
Skewball wrote:
PVDarts501 wrote:
Robson wrote:
Garry Murphy wrote:
Robson wrote:MVG is the best talent in the history of TV darts - But that doesnt make him the best player - Hes great on the floor - But crumbles too often at major events - This year alone - He crumbled at the Worlds - UK Open - And the big World Series event the PDC held - Look at the Matchplay and Grand Prix last year as well - He just doesnt handle pressure well -

So MVG is not that great cos he is not winning enough

Other shrooms complaining MVG wins too much.( disregarding their own bdo player Durrant who won lakeside, masters, finder, catastrophy etc)

Seems to me shrooms want to moan regardless and are moaning when he loses and moaning when he wins, and I am not even an MVG fan
Hes not that great because he cant handle pressure well -He often bottles it at major events -

Robson
How would you call Taylor's defeats to West, Van der Voort (WGP), Klaasen, Webster, Smith (Worlds), Aden Kirk (UK Open) then? Or defeats to MVG when Phil was leading by a few legs (Masters, Matchplay Grand Slam)? Losing a few teams doesn't mean you bottled it, it means you are not a robot.
Dont react, he is the latest troll. Ignore him and he will go away.
No Robbo is right, I doubt he will ever achieve anywhere close what Taylor did.

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:32 am
by nikkiboy
Duneh9617 wrote:Please don't take me seriously - I know nothing about darts - I know nothing about a lot of things tbh - like spending my time in a useful manner-

Robson
:)

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:35 am
by Case
Correct, needs to commit a huge part of his life to even come close. I somehow doubt MvG will keep on playing that long.

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:13 pm
by Lee Taylor
Ginge wrote:
Black Velvet wrote:Ah it’s ifm.
He was never known for posting in the middle of the British night.

Methinks it is Dog.
Ah, I had forgotten about DoG........what an absolute tool he was!

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:47 pm
by Robson
Are we going to talk about darts - Or carry on playing guess who -

Robson

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:50 pm
by ChrisW
Robson wrote:Are we going to talk about darts - Or carry on playing guess who -

Robson
Great post!

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:52 am
by Chef from Sweden
Robson wrote:Are we going to talk about darts - Or carry on playing guess who -

Robson
Thank - you - very - much - big - Robbo - best - thing - you - ever - said

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:12 pm
by nikkiboy
Paddy's been on the scrumpy

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:13 pm
by Black Velvet
Chef from Sweden wrote:
Robson wrote:Are we going to talk about darts - Or carry on playing guess who -

Robson
Thank - you - very - much - big - Robbo - best - thing - you - ever - said
- :D

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:15 pm
by Ginge
Co Stompe would be top 5 in the world if he was still playing full time.
Or something.

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:37 am
by Robson
I am aware that Ginge is having his own fun - But I honestly forgot about Stompe - He was a very good player on his day - Always in Barneys shadow - Loved it when he beat Klassen at Lakeside that one year - The Christian Ronaldo stuff from Klassen never did it for me -

Robson

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:36 pm
by nevil22
Paddy McGinty wrote:
Ginge wrote:Nets being cast out nice and early this morning I see.
You know yourself that many good players in the PDC never amounted to much within the tougher BDO system, it's not just about raw talent.
Yes just look at how " outstanding " the record of bdo players is in The Grand Slam of darts the last few years #amatuerdarts

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:35 pm
by Paddy McGinty
nevil22 wrote:
Paddy McGinty wrote:
Ginge wrote:Nets being cast out nice and early this morning I see.
You know yourself that many good players in the PDC never amounted to much within the tougher BDO system, it's not just about raw talent.
Yes just look at how " outstanding " the record of bdo players is in The Grand Slam of darts the last few years #amatuerdarts
Yes good point.....one win and a runner up....not bad for a few token players.....just imagine if it was done fairly...50/50

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:52 pm
by nevil22
Paddy McGinty wrote:
nevil22 wrote:
Paddy McGinty wrote:
Ginge wrote:Nets being cast out nice and early this morning I see.
You know yourself that many good players in the PDC never amounted to much within the tougher BDO system, it's not just about raw talent.
Yes just look at how " outstanding " the record of bdo players is in The Grand Slam of darts the last few years #amatuerdarts
Yes good point.....one win and a runner up....not bad for a few token players.....just imagine if it was done fairly...50/50

So in 11 years, one 1st place & one 2nd place. A 9% of reaching a final for the bdo players. How have they done in the knock out stages the last 3 years???

Re: Is MVG Overrated

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:05 pm
by Robson
The PDC players do better at the GSOD - But its on their turf and they have more TV experience - If it was held at Lakeside it would be much closer - Even at Wolves its often quite close between the two codes - Both codes have good players - Theres just more of them in the PDC -

Robson