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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:44 pm
by Ginge
Have any of the Fanatics claimed that Channel 5 dropping Big Brother opens up the January evening schedule for them to take on Lakeside yet?

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:58 pm
by ssjsa
oche balboa wrote:Exactly it’s the one they all want to win
Well, the youngsters looking to win their tour cards for the following year certainly think so. ;-)

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:02 pm
by ChrisW
Ginge wrote:Have any of the Fanatics claimed that Channel 5 dropping Big Brother opens up the January evening schedule for them to take on Lakeside yet?
I doubt it.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:47 am
by Paddy McGinty
ChrisW wrote:
Ginge wrote:Have any of the Fanatics claimed that Channel 5 dropping Big Brother opens up the January evening schedule for them to take on Lakeside yet?
I doubt it.
I'll ask the question Ninge......

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:12 pm
by trotter
Ginge wrote:Have any of the Fanatics claimed that Channel 5 dropping Big Brother opens up the January evening schedule for them to take on Lakeside yet?
Paddy did....probably with tongue firmly in his cheek...

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:59 pm
by Paddy McGinty

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:01 pm
by Ginge

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:03 pm
by Paddy McGinty
Ginge wrote:I raise you with...

http://www.bdodarts.com/diary-2019.php
Mine wins.....mines got a venue.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:04 pm
by Ginge
Yours is a guess by a third party....nothing official until the BDO announce it.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:07 pm
by Paddy McGinty
Ginge wrote:Yours is a guess by a third party....nothing official until the BDO announce it.
We shall see........

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:08 pm
by Ginge
Indeed, Im fully expecting it to be at Lakeside starting the 5th. Anything else would be sheer lunacy.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:10 pm
by ChrisW
Customer service from the Lakeside coutesy of Ginge pretty good. Guaranteed less than 2 minutes response time.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:11 pm
by Ginge
Hi Chris.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:26 am
by Deleted User
Is this still the old bloody site??? FFS!!

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:18 pm
by tapsa
How Finnish Open is in a calendar as Finnish Darts Organization has decided to not organise it? They even know it is in Vantaa.

I don't know these new BDO people.May be they want organise it them selves :)

TBH this kind of a details tell how well they do their job

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:33 pm
by nikkiboy
tapsa wrote:How Finnish Open is in a calendar as Finnish Darts Organization has decided to not organise it? They even know it is in Vantaa.

I don't know these new BDO people.May be they want organise it them selves :)

TBH this kind of a details tell how well they do their job
If the chairman's wife has booked then the BDO will organise it for you and won't allow it to be cancelled, it'll be an all inclusive deal heavily promoted on the 'new' BDO website.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:30 am
by Zapp Brannigan
"Cost of Qschool will go up", "Barry only interested in the top 16", "chance for BDO to regroup and restrengthen" Only need "get some millionaire businessmen in" and we would have had a full house

Tommy Thompson
I suppose we are all second guessing the next moves from the BDO and Barry Hearn, however in the ruthless world of business, the strongest will prevail. My opinion for what it is worth is that the PDC would not be interested in weakening their market position to accommodate the BDO in anyway. Barry Hearn has a “Closed Shop” on the top players’ contracts concerning when and where they can feature on TV or Internet streaming. Yes there may be a lot more players going to Q-School but there are only so many spots available, I would be surprised if the cost of Q-School doesn’t go up to say around £1,000, the market and state of the BDO would stand this increase and he would get rid of the non-serious competitors, the wannabees, he neither wants nor needs. Does he need 600-700 players at challenge tour events running 4 events a weekend, I don’t think so! Currently running events with these numbers I know it would be an impossible schedule. The Challenge Tour is financially underpinned by other activities within the PDC, to extend the challenge tour considerably, doesn’t make financial sense, as his main priority is the main Tour and probably the top 16 players within that tour.

The BDO is in a very poor position, worse than I can ever remember, however the structure is there to re-build and strengthen, definitely not into the position it has been in the past, but as an alternative for a great deal of darts players not just in the UK, but around the World. However at this moment in time to achieve this is going to be a monumental task, and not the best of starts for the new board. Not pointing the finger at Des as he has inherited the majority of the board who brought the company to its’ knees. We will see, but the clock is definitely ticking.

Re: RE: Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:13 pm
by Skewball
Zapp Brannigan wrote:"Cost of Qschool will go up", "Barry only interested in the top 16", "chance for BDO to regroup and restrengthen" Only need "get some millionaire businessmen in" and we would have had a full house

Tommy Thompson
I suppose we are all second guessing the next moves from the BDO and Barry Hearn, however in the ruthless world of business, the strongest will prevail. My opinion for what it is worth is that the PDC would not be interested in weakening their market position to accommodate the BDO in anyway. Barry Hearn has a “Closed Shop” on the top players’ contracts concerning when and where they can feature on TV or Internet streaming. Yes there may be a lot more players going to Q-School but there are only so many spots available, I would be surprised if the cost of Q-School doesn’t go up to say around £1,000, the market and state of the BDO would stand this increase and he would get rid of the non-serious competitors, the wannabees, he neither wants nor needs. Does he need 600-700 players at challenge tour events running 4 events a weekend, I don’t think so! Currently running events with these numbers I know it would be an impossible schedule. The Challenge Tour is financially underpinned by other activities within the PDC, to extend the challenge tour considerably, doesn’t make financial sense, as his main priority is the main Tour and probably the top 16 players within that tour.

The BDO is in a very poor position, worse than I can ever remember, however the structure is there to re-build and strengthen, definitely not into the position it has been in the past, but as an alternative for a great deal of darts players not just in the UK, but around the World. However at this moment in time to achieve this is going to be a monumental task, and not the best of starts for the new board. Not pointing the finger at Des as he has inherited the majority of the board who brought the company to its’ knees. We will see, but the clock is definitely ticking.
After all the developments of the last few years to still come out with old nonsense of the PDC only interested in the top 16 just shows how far behind the times these people still are.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:25 pm
by markymark
The silly thing is, even if they were, the model is making money for both player and organisation. This is a bad thing.

Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:39 pm
by Wubbalubbadubdub
Zapp Brannigan wrote:"Cost of Qschool will go up", "Barry only interested in the top 16", "chance for BDO to regroup and restrengthen" Only need "get some millionaire businessmen in" and we would have had a full house

Tommy Thompson
I suppose we are all second guessing the next moves from the BDO and Barry Hearn, however in the ruthless world of business, the strongest will prevail. My opinion for what it is worth is that the PDC would not be interested in weakening their market position to accommodate the BDO in anyway. Barry Hearn has a “Closed Shop” on the top players’ contracts concerning when and where they can feature on TV or Internet streaming. Yes there may be a lot more players going to Q-School but there are only so many spots available, I would be surprised if the cost of Q-School doesn’t go up to say around £1,000, the market and state of the BDO would stand this increase and he would get rid of the non-serious competitors, the wannabees, he neither wants nor needs. Does he need 600-700 players at challenge tour events running 4 events a weekend, I don’t think so! Currently running events with these numbers I know it would be an impossible schedule. The Challenge Tour is financially underpinned by other activities within the PDC, to extend the challenge tour considerably, doesn’t make financial sense, as his main priority is the main Tour and probably the top 16 players within that tour.

The BDO is in a very poor position, worse than I can ever remember, however the structure is there to re-build and strengthen, definitely not into the position it has been in the past, but as an alternative for a great deal of darts players not just in the UK, but around the World. However at this moment in time to achieve this is going to be a monumental task, and not the best of starts for the new board. Not pointing the finger at Des as he has inherited the majority of the board who brought the company to its’ knees. We will see, but the clock is definitely ticking.
So that's why half the people that came back from Wigan Challenge Tour saying it would be a £1000 to enter Q-School ,so it's a bunch of whiney Lancashire officials trying to spread stuff again.
He talks about the need for change once again but then thinks they would run a 4 challenge tours on a weekend with 600/700 players not thinking the PDC could reorganise the Challenge Tour faster than the BDO could put up a website.

So the the question is why do they seed players in the EDO events, surely your not looking after your top "superstars" and anybody should play anybody. It's not like theres an areana packed and with TV waiting for seeds 1 and 2 to play a final in the EDO.