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Postby nikkiboy » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:14 pm

MancheStar wrote:It would be a great bit of marketing for the BDO to plug. There best bet is to announce it to the darts world when everyone’s watching live.

BDO Press Release:

Hi I'm Des and I run the British Darts Organisation, have you just watched the eight BDO players get spanked in the groups? well the BDO is proud to announce that you can watch these guys again in the BDO World Professional Darts Championship taking place at the Preston Guild Hall and broadcast live and exclusive by Youtube.
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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby Skewball » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:42 pm

Whatever they announce now can't be seen as good news. It is a farce that lakeside has come down to this. Watching Lakeside was what got me into darts in the late 80's, probably like 90% of people on here.

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Postby oche balboa » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:01 pm

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Postby Ginge » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:02 pm

I wish people would stop going on about how Pol Pol killed thousands of his own citizens, yes we get it!
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Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby Zapp Brannigan » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:12 pm

Skewball wrote:Whatever they announce now can't be seen as good news. It is a farce that lakeside has come down to this. Watching Lakeside was what got me into darts in the late 80's, probably like 90% of people on here.


I dunno

If he announces it tomorrow most of the loyal brigade will forget everything, hail him as the saviour as they ring up for tickets

The only difference for anyone will be if he announces it for a different venue

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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby markymark » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:28 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Skewball wrote:Whatever they announce now can't be seen as good news. It is a farce that lakeside has come down to this. Watching Lakeside was what got me into darts in the late 80's, probably like 90% of people on here.


I dunno

If he announces it tomorrow most of the loyal brigade will forget everything, hail him as the saviour as they ring up for tickets

The only difference for anyone will be if he announces it for a different venue


Spot on. Loads of "well done Des!!!" posts for doing the bare minimum.

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Postby devosteve » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:30 pm

oche balboa wrote:Skewball we know your position


But that doesn't make sense. Folks know we're you stand on a lot of issues. Are you only going to post 'brand new' thoughts?

We know what you think of certain posters. Hope you won't criticise skewball again.

Anyway a genuine question. You asked someone why do they want 1 world championship. But why is it important to you, and others, that there are 2?
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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby DavidOwen67 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:32 pm

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:Having 2 World Championships doesn't create confusion (or at least it shouldn't), but it does add another dimension into the problems the BDO face.
Looking back at the previous page, people are tying themselves in knots looking for some sort of equivalency to the situation the BDO are currently in regarding sponsors, TV deals, and getting the former to fund the latter.
I'll admit I've only skim-read it, but it looks like netball and British basketball were the best we could come up with, which is fair enough as long as you're happy ignoring the big, PDC shaped, elephant in the room.

Sponsors are (or were in the case of British basketball) prepared to take a punt and see if there's a market out there. They're prepared to do this, because they know if people want to watch these sports in this country, then theirs is the only game in town. You want to watch netball, here it is.
I know BT Sport have the NBA, which is fine if you live a nocturnal existence or are happy with highlight shows, but if you want live basketball at a civilised hour, the British league is what you have to watch.
Literally the only question is whether enough people actually want to watch these sports. It's that straightforward.

But that's not the position the BDO are in. Anyone wanting to watch darts has an alternative. And it's one that is light years ahead of the BDO in the way it goes about things.
Sponsors and broadcasters clearly aren't prepared to take a punt on the BDO, because recent history suggests if the general public want to watch darts they get Sky or stick ITV4 on.
The difference between the PDC and BDO is like night and day (I'm referring to the professionalism of the organisation, not the playing standard, before Oche and Paddy get on their hind legs).
This week my Facebook feed has been absolutely bombarded by the PDC with box office details for next years Premier League Exbo Tour, yet here we are having this conversation about Lakeside, because no-one in the BDO is prepared to tell us anything.
Why in the name of God would a sponsor want anything to do with an organisation like that?

Over the weekend I was channel surfing, and came across a rugby league game on Freesports. It was an amateur game from the 3rd or 4th tier of the sport. It was largely unwatchable. 26 fat blokes wheezing up and down a ploughed field, occasionally introducing a rugby ball into proceedings.
Christ knows who they'd got to pay for that, but they'd managed it.
The point is, they quite happily marketed it as "grass roots" and chucked it out there to see if any die hards would watch it.
Contrast that with the BDO continuing to claim their flagship event is a "World Professional Championship" to a general public who see a sufficient difference in class between the BDO and PDC, and come to their own, very different conclusion.
For as long as the BDO insist on fighting a war they cannot possibly win, sponsors (and by extension TV companies) are going to give them a wide berth.


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I posted something about the TV battle being lost a couple of years ago because of the amateurism of the old board.

If anything things have got even worse than the Fishmarket debacle and the empty night at the WDT in Manchester featuring air guitars and Mrs Jacklin.

As was said then, the TV battle is lost and has been for years. Stick to the big opens and the BICC.

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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby oche balboa » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:06 pm

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oche balboa wrote:Skewball we know your position


But that doesn't make sense. Folks know we're you stand on a lot of issues. Are you only going to post 'brand new' thoughts?

We know what you think of certain posters. Hope you won't criticise skewball again.

Anyway a genuine question. You asked someone why do they want 1 world championship. But why is it important to you, and others, that there are 2?


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Postby Zeyes » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:59 pm

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Postby Ginge » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:03 pm

Zeyes wrote:...
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Postby ssjsa » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:43 pm

Zeyes wrote:
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:
MancheStar wrote:It would be a great bit of marketing for the BDO to plug. There best bet is to announce it to the darts world when everyone’s watching live.

And that's your problem right there.
What are the BDO going to do exactly? Put a press release on their website and Facebook page? Maybe another photo of Des with his new suit and beard?

Obviously Gary Robson is going to throw the winning double in his (meaningless) last group game, turn to the camera and yell, "And you know what? Lakeside's OOOOONNNNN!!!!!"


A perfectly viable scenario in the main.

However falls apart ,as Robbo has no chance of winning a game. :grin:
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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby Ginge » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:48 am

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/loc ... d-13393877

Ross will be getting a slap from the Chairman....
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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby Buzz Fledderjohn » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:10 am

Well he's wrong isn't he?

It was all announced 3 weeks ago according to Paddy......

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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby Zapp Brannigan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:55 am

With the worlds and the Euro Qschool overlapping I wonder how many are going to have a really bad game in the 2nd round.

Going to affect quite a few people
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Wesley Harms -
Michael Unterbuchner - Would say very likely going to Qschool
Richard Veenstra -
Chris Landman -
Willem Mandigers -
Jeffrey van Egdom -
Wouter Vaes -
Brian Løkken - Already does PDC events
Oliver Ferenc - Already does PDC events
Roger Janssen -
Krzysztof Kciuk- Attempted to qualify for PDC worlds

Women
Anastasia Dobromyslova - Ill put money on her being at Qschool
Aileen de Graaf
Sharon Prins
Karolina Podgórska

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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby Ginge » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:03 am

I wonder if any of the above named players have contacted the PDC to see if they can do the UK one instead.
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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby nikkiboy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:34 am

Ginge wrote:https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/darts-uncertainty-surrounding-lakeside-world-13393877

Ross will be getting a slap from the Chairman....

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:Well he's wrong isn't he?

It was all announced 3 weeks ago according to Paddy......


They told a poor Irish farmer but neglected to tell their most loyal player?

Just goes to show the 'Lakeside confirmed' that has been pedalled on certain sites is utter hearsay.
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Postby Ginge » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:35 am

But but....Pieter rang them up!!!! And everything!!!!
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Postby devosteve » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:37 am

Deta posted on fb how she didn't have a clue what was happening re the wc
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Re: Lakeside dates and BDO 2019 calendar

Postby nikkiboy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:38 am

Ginge wrote:But but....Pieter rang them up!!!! And everything!!!!

And he would have been told the same as you and others were but obviously thought it was enough for the exclusive, might still be correct though and that's the biggest issue, if I were a BDO player who has qualified for the Worlds I would be very concerned about the prize fund right about now.
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