2019 Q-School

[Astonvilla]

Of course Menzies didnt do so good last year did he. Whats different now.

[Murphio]

If the BDO is allowed a free hand to pick its Grand Slam entrants it has a decision to make. Their No.1 ranked player has joined the PDC but obviously McGeeney will no longer have a ranking so that isn't really a factor but how can they possibly leave out the reigning Lakeside champion - and would the PDC even allow that to happen? If Durrant does get in the Slam as a BDO qualifier - as I pointed out a few pages back - he effectively starts his campaign to make Ally Pally with at least 3k on his ranking OOM before he throws a dart. Could make a huge difference given Mark Webster sneaked in by just £50 in his first PDC year.

[Little Lonely Garry]

4 out of 19 success rate

2019 Lakeside PLAYERS THAT ATTEMPTED TO WIN A TOURCARD

Scott Baker- CARD WON OUTRIGHT
Mark McGeeney- CARD WON OUTRIGHT
Glen Durrant - CARD WON - ONLY VIA A PLACE IN THE LEAGUE TABLE
Conan Whitehead - CARD WON - ONLY VIA A PLACE IN THE LEAGUE TABLE
Lisa Ashton - FAILED
Jim Williams - FAILED
Wes Newton - FAILED
David Cameron - FAILED
Daniel Day - FAILED
Andy Hamilton - FAILED
Scott Waites - FAILED
Kyle McKinstry - FAILED
Lorraine Winstanley - FAILED
Ana Dobromyslova - FAILED
Mark McGrath - FAILED
Fallon Sherrock - FAILED
Corrine Hammond - FAILED
Deta Hedman - FAILED
Dean Reynolds - FAILED

[Kyeavfc]

Menzies has as good as a card,he will get in to every players champs and be able to qualfy for euro tours,so if he’s anywhere near good enough he can get in to the top 65 by the end of the year and he will automatically get his card for next year.wont need to return to q school.

Which is exactly why Q-School is virtually a waste of time...

Vital first weekend of fixtures next week on challenge tour... next weekend is in May, so ranking from next week will be reserve list for first 14 pro tour events.

[Ginge]

If the BDO is allowed a free hand to pick its Grand Slam entrants it has a decision to make. Their No.1 ranked player has joined the PDC but obviously McGeeney will no longer have a ranking so that isn't really a factor but how can they possibly leave out the reigning Lakeside champion - and would the PDC even allow that to happen? If Durrant does get in the Slam as a BDO qualifier - as I pointed out a few pages back - he effectively starts his campaign to make Ally Pally with at least 3k on his ranking OOM before he throws a dart. Could make a huge difference given Mark Webster sneaked in by just £50 in his first PDC year.

Think this could all mean changes will be made. Maybe there will be an insistence that Durrant is there and they then pick the other seven.

[Steveo180]

Still surprised Jim Williams didn't get a card. Actually thought his style suited the pro tour better than Durrant & McGeeney's and over the next two years would have been higher up the order of merit. But guess he hasn't got the game yet.
Even more annoying considering how poor the averages were on his board 22 today. Then again always next year after he wins Lakeside lol.

[Addicks Fan]

Menzies has as good as a card,he will get in to every players champs and be able to qualfy for euro tours,so if he’s anywhere near good enough he can get in to the top 65 by the end of the year and he will automatically get his card for next year.wont need to return to q school.

He's entered the Scottish Open this year, so looks like he'll be keeping BDO Worlds as a possibility as well

[ChrisW]

Still surprised Jim Williams didn't get a card. Actually thought his style suited the pro tour better than Durrant & McGeeney's and over the next two years would have been higher up the order of merit. But guess he hasn't got the game yet.
Even more annoying considering how poor the averages were on his board 22 today. Then again always next year after he wins Lakeside lol.

I thought he would do well also, but he is still young. Next year I think he will make it.
And in the mean time arise BDO #1.

[Astonvilla]

I wonder how many more ex PDC players will qualify for Lakeside next year. Hamilton is well on course to do so but what about guys like Robbie Green or Andrew Gilding.

[foggy]

Wow Duzza compares his card as good as winning lakeside,


"This is as good as winning the Lakeside Championship," said former Grand Slam of Darts quarter-finalist Durrant.

"I'm going through so many emotions right now, I'm so happy and relieved to get through because there was so much pressure on me to do this.

"When I looked around the venue I noticed that a lot of people were watching my matches, and I also put a lot of pressure on myself.

"Thankfully I got the job done and I'm immensely proud of what I've achieved. Now I'm looking forward to my exciting future with the PDC."

[Murphio]

If the BDO is allowed a free hand to pick its Grand Slam entrants it has a decision to make. Their No.1 ranked player has joined the PDC but obviously McGeeney will no longer have a ranking so that isn't really a factor but how can they possibly leave out the reigning Lakeside champion - and would the PDC even allow that to happen? If Durrant does get in the Slam as a BDO qualifier - as I pointed out a few pages back - he effectively starts his campaign to make Ally Pally with at least 3k on his ranking OOM before he throws a dart. Could make a huge difference given Mark Webster sneaked in by just £50 in his first PDC year.

Think this could all mean changes will be made. Maybe there will be an insistence that Durrant is there and they then pick the other seven.

I agree - but I'd also argue, in the interests of fairness, that any money Duzza wins at the Slam should not count towards his OOM total since he qualified from the BDO route (unless he qualifies through a PDC route in the meantime). Doesn't seem right to me that he is guaranteed to have at least 3k tacked on to his OOM total in November before he has even chucked a dart in the PDC.

[Mensur Suljovic Fan]

Menzies has as good as a card,he will get in to every players champs and be able to qualfy for euro tours,so if he’s anywhere near good enough he can get in to the top 65 by the end of the year and he will automatically get his card for next year.wont need to return to q school.

They don't fill up floor events by using the Q-School OoM anymore, it's all on the Challenge Tour these days. Cammie did well on the Challenge Tour last year, but unfortunately a clash between a CT weekend and a ET event he qualified for meant he couldn't qualify for the ProTour events and that did for him in the end.

Challenge Tour starts next week so he can at least steal a March on the way to the Worlds and a tour card for next year, though knowing him, it'll probably play on his mind for ages

[Mensur Suljovic Fan]

4 out of 19 success rate

2019 Lakeside PLAYERS THAT ATTEMPTED TO WIN A TOURCARD

Scott Baker- CARD WON OUTRIGHT
Mark McGeeney- CARD WON OUTRIGHT
Glen Durrant - CARD WON - ONLY VIA A PLACE IN THE LEAGUE TABLE
Conan Whitehead - CARD WON - ONLY VIA A PLACE IN THE LEAGUE TABLE
Lisa Ashton - FAILED
Jim Williams - FAILED
Wes Newton - FAILED
David Cameron - FAILED
Daniel Day - FAILED
Andy Hamilton - FAILED
Scott Waites - FAILED
Kyle McKinstry - FAILED
Lorraine Winstanley - FAILED
Ana Dobromyslova - FAILED
Mark McGrath - FAILED
Fallon Sherrock - FAILED
Corrine Hammond - FAILED
Deta Hedman - FAILED
Dean Reynolds - FAILED

Only 3 of those names really disappointed (Williams, Waites and McKinstry I'd have expected to at least be there or thereabouts), Duzza would have been expected to win one easier than he did, but Baker, McGeeney and Whitehead did well to win one. I'd say that's about a par score for the Lakeside players myself

[ssjsa]

So who are the 128 tour card holders?

[daveboygreen]

4 out of 19 success rate

2019 Lakeside PLAYERS THAT ATTEMPTED TO WIN A TOURCARD

Scott Baker- CARD WON OUTRIGHT
Mark McGeeney- CARD WON OUTRIGHT
Glen Durrant - CARD WON - ONLY VIA A PLACE IN THE LEAGUE TABLE
Conan Whitehead - CARD WON - ONLY VIA A PLACE IN THE LEAGUE TABLE
Lisa Ashton - FAILED
Jim Williams - FAILED
Wes Newton - FAILED
David Cameron - FAILED
Daniel Day - FAILED
Andy Hamilton - FAILED
Scott Waites - FAILED
Kyle McKinstry - FAILED
Lorraine Winstanley - FAILED
Ana Dobromyslova - FAILED
Mark McGrath - FAILED
Fallon Sherrock - FAILED
Corrine Hammond - FAILED
Deta Hedman - FAILED
Dean Reynolds - FAILED

This can't be right...Zapp said that Williams, Waites and Durrant would all have a card by the end of the 2nd day!!

[Ginge]

If the BDO is allowed a free hand to pick its Grand Slam entrants it has a decision to make. Their No.1 ranked player has joined the PDC but obviously McGeeney will no longer have a ranking so that isn't really a factor but how can they possibly leave out the reigning Lakeside champion - and would the PDC even allow that to happen? If Durrant does get in the Slam as a BDO qualifier - as I pointed out a few pages back - he effectively starts his campaign to make Ally Pally with at least 3k on his ranking OOM before he throws a dart. Could make a huge difference given Mark Webster sneaked in by just £50 in his first PDC year.

Think this could all mean changes will be made. Maybe there will be an insistence that Durrant is there and they then pick the other seven.

I agree - but I'd also argue, in the interests of fairness, that any money Duzza wins at the Slam should not count towards his OOM total since he qualified from the BDO route (unless he qualifies through a PDC route in the meantime). Doesn't seem right to me that he is guaranteed to have at least 3k tacked on to his OOM total in November before he has even chucked a dart in the PDC.

Whatever he wins at the Slam won't have an impact anyway first year. The one year pro tour OoM would be his route to get into the worlds like with all the other new card holders. None are likely to make top 32 in the main two year list before the end of November bar the year of their life and in that case they would have got in via the Pro Tour list anyway.

[ssjsa]

[daveboygreen]

Surely a mistake....Phil Davies stated that 10 points would get a card and some would get through on 9!!

[1205]

The thing that I always thought was stupid about Des opening his doors and welcoming players back who fail Qschool was that it just makes them look terrible.

The out and out favorite for Lakeside next year is a player that finished 98th in a competition to get into the PDC.

Jim Williams finished 29th at Q School, not 98th.

The BDO can't compete directly. The strategy of trying to trap players who want to be in the PDC had them only a continual path of shrinking money and players bypassing them. They had to do something.

Now the BDO is a place players can play freely if they don't feel ready to commit to the PDC, while trying to get to, or back to the PDC, or if they are done with the PDC. I think it'll also make TV presentation and media better as they can present and talk to players (present and past) openly, without an elephant in the room.

I'm not sure whether it'll work, but the rule change happened less than 6 months ago, and they have a 3-year TV deal that give them time to try it, so I think it's too early to say.

If it doesn't help them, they're now only 1 word change away from getting funding help from the PDC.

[ChrisW]