How much did carter or Richards win Leading up to q school ?
Nice try , thats not the same.
They daft fraggles obviously have the money to waste .
You were talking about people with a genuine chance of a tour card but might not be flush enough to pay the Q school entry fee. These ones who have a genuine chance of a card should be able to win the money required in local comps.
The likes of Carter etc are never going to win a card , but this doesnt stop them paying there money.
You confuse me with someone who thinks these daft fraggles will win a card. They are no hopers , but under the current rules they can and do enter.
Thank you for proving my point.
No one is disputing that. Not here anyway!
It will happen in any open qualyfing system,but it's fine, no one really cares , not the PDC who get the money or the other players who get a warm up game.
It's only an issue if it's more than a dozen or so and starts to clog up the running of the days.
I just can't see all the fuss over them entering. They just have a different way of measuring value for money than we do.
Would you believe ske, it’s not about them being able to afford o wnternthat I have an issue with. It won’t be long before luck of the draw we will have possibly 4 of these clowns or more on the same board,
Some of these games are 12 visits to the board to break the 300s
I’m sure you’ve chalked games like this, imagine chalking 2 or 3 of them, the will to live would have left a long time ago.
Well indeed, I've had to mark many of Paddys games and felt like that ! Lol
And to your point that the rules need changing I would say that at the moment any rule would feel like a hammer to crack a nut.
Yes, it's potentially an issue over timings and if 3 or 4 of them were on the same board etc , and I'm sure the PDC are monitoring it, but at the moment it still feels manageable to have a few jokers enter. Any potential vetting or increase of fees would cause more issues and headaches than the issue does as it stands - and until that balance changes then I can't see the point of any rules changes
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Maybe make the guys who fail at Q-School have to make a certain amount of dates or wins or something on the Challenge Tour to be eligible for entry the next year? It's a tough one.
It's all down to the people really as I don't see much way in vetting it at the moment. Unfortunately darts seems to be a game seriously deluded people are drawn to for some reason, maybe because it comes across as such an everyman sport. I've seen people over the years who can barely break into the 70's having the game of their life at superleague go to Q-School genuinely believing they can win or get close to winning a tour card, win a few legs over the 4 days at best and then pretend they were just unlucky.
SolidSCB wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:26 pm
Maybe make the guys who fail at Q-School have to make a certain amount of dates or wins or something on the Challenge Tour to be eligible for entry the next year? It's a tough one.
It's all down to the people really as I don't see much way in vetting it at the moment. Unfortunately darts seems to be a game seriously deluded people are drawn to for some reason, maybe because it comes across as such an everyman sport. I've seen people over the years who can barely break into the 70's having the game of their life at superleague go to Q-School genuinely believing they can win or get close to winning a tour card, win a few legs over the 4 days at best and then pretend they were just unlucky.
Joys of dartsconnect now solid, there is no hiding place for these clowns.
I went twice, and I went on the lash (drink) both times, as I was doing no harm and even my bad game I’d still manage something half decent . But these lads A game isn’t worrying my blind goldfish
Yeah hopefully dartconnect makes a few of them think twice.
It boggles my mind that these lads averaging 40/50-odd think they've anything to build on, they probably spend a few hours on the board every day as well, their own darts shirt, every piece of equipment going. You see a few of them on Facebook giving it the "One step at a time" thing after, like it's a big learning experience. No, you just have no natural talent for the game of darts and never will, turn it in and go and do a few BDO jolly ups for the same sort of money.
jesus ******* christ how about a PM with what the **** is the matter with my posts and i can stop doing it .
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I do find it odd how offended people get about nobodies doing qschool, I can’t say it bothers me when it’s an open tournament designed to let anyone have a go.
Vetting people or having 2 sets of qschools doesn’t really solve anything
Astonvilla wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:52 pm
Nobody knows his story but I'd bet he isnt as sad as Internet critics who have nothing better to do than criticize him.
He's a pub player who's got a few quid by all accounts.
Has just had a few days of fun for his own entertainment
Back in the day you could even sneak onto the Pro Tour by doing that too.
Step forward, Andy Relf.
No no no, apparantly he is a PDC professional because this was a PDC event and so everyone who enters is a PROFESSIONAL and so must be amazing and we should laugh at them when they hit shit averages and call the PDC bullshiters for calling themselves PROFESSIONAL.
Stranbougie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:45 pm
jesus fekkin christ how about a PM with what the fek is the matter with my posts and i can stop doing it .
The admin team are worried that your posts are a symptom of PTSD stemming from that time a soldier shouted at you for not washing up his plate adequately.
I mean personally I couldn't give a toss whether people decide to chuck their money down a hole at Q-School or not.
I just feel that for people who are clearly extremely crap at the game, there are far better alternatives for the sort of money they are dishing out than to go and get pasted in silence on some tennis court in Wigan.
and I'm sure that some of the guys going who are looking to take the day seriously and get themselves a tour card and earn a proper living from the game, they'd rather do without the distraction of autograph hunting nutjobs who are just there to namedrop on Facebook and act like Make a Wish kids getting to play Pro Darts Player for the day.
SolidSCB wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:54 pm
I mean personally I couldn't give a toss whether people decide to chuck their money down a hole at Q-School or not.
I just feel that for people who are clearly extremely crap at the game, there are far better alternatives for the sort of money they are dishing out than to go and get pasted in silence on some tennis court in Wigan.
and I'm sure that some of the guys going who are looking to take the day seriously and get themselves a tour card and earn a proper living from the game, they'd rather do without the distraction of autograph hunting nutjobs who are just there to namedrop on Facebook and act like Make a Wish kids getting to play Pro Darts Player for the day.
SolidSCB wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:54 pmthey'd rather do without the distraction of autograph hunting nutjobs who are just there to namedrop on Facebook and act like Make a Wish kids getting to play Pro Darts Player for the day.
The nutjobs will play 1 game per day. And I'd think that if you want to be a pro, dealing with the nutjobs would be good practice.
Stranbougie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:45 pm
jesus fekkin christ how about a PM with what the fek is the matter with my posts and i can stop doing it .
The admin team are worried that your posts are a symptom of PTSD stemming from that time a soldier shouted at you for not washing up his plate adequately.
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World Champs Quals 2013-2014
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SolidSCB wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:26 pm
Maybe make the guys who fail at Q-School have to make a certain amount of dates or wins or something on the Challenge Tour to be eligible for entry the next year? It's a tough one.
It's all down to the people really as I don't see much way in vetting it at the moment. Unfortunately darts seems to be a game seriously deluded people are drawn to for some reason, maybe because it comes across as such an everyman sport. I've seen people over the years who can barely break into the 70's having the game of their life at superleague go to Q-School genuinely believing they can win or get close to winning a tour card, win a few legs over the 4 days at best and then pretend they were just unlucky.
Joys of dartsconnect now solid, there is no hiding place for these clowns.
I went twice, and I went on the lash (drink) both times, as I was doing no harm and even my bad game I’d still manage something half decent . But these lads A game isn’t worrying my blind goldfish
I cannot see a way of 'vetting' people who wish to have a pop, even if you made the entry £1500 some with more money than sense would still enter.
At the moment it isn't a problem, they are doing no harm and how many times have you had a mare of a game, sub 60 average and then next game raised it by some 20 points. Many years ago in superleague I remember first game of the season losing with a 17 average (shit loads at doubles) and then next match winning with a 31 average. As long as they pay their money they should be allowed to play imo.
To be honest, with dartconnect you have a prime piece of software for any vetting. It is literally there to collect and collate data.
It's just a case of what's fair really. Is it fair to say no to some bloke who keeps turning up and barely scraping a 50 average on a consistent basis?
SolidSCB wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:39 pm
To be honest, with dartconnect you have a prime piece of software for any vetting. It is literally there to collect and collate data.
It's just a case of what's fair really. Is it fair to say no to some bloke who keeps turning up and barely scraping a 50 average on a consistent basis?
So a youngster enters and hits a 49 average this year - will he be the same next year?
