2019 Q-School

[Wubbalubbadubdub]

Keith Carter upping his average 10 points but still gets beat 5-0

[Sally]

6AF583C6-8A21-423F-A118-A415D27B2E1A.jpeg (384.5 KiB) Viewed 1002 times

Lisa Through. Last leg decider, against the darts. 12 darts !

She also had an 11 darter along the way.

[Ginge]

Lisa takes out 126 against the throw wo beat Andy Jenkins 5-4!

Andy probably had one eye on something else, tbf.

**starts stopwatch**

[Skewball]

Lisa had a 89.5 average as well

[Skewball]

the protour cant support 128 people pretending to be professional dart players

a 64 person tour that is actually able to see 64 players earn a living is much more preferable to the current situation where people pretending there is a protour of 128 professional players

Uncle Barry seems intent on increasing the prize monies available, talking about a £1m world championship first prize and when that happens all other prize funds will be increased - just as has happened previously so I see no reason why most of the 128 could not earn a decent wage whilst still having the opportunity (albeit a pipe dream for most) to become an instant millionaire by winning the flagship event.

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

[Lurgan]

Lisa takes out 126 against the throw wo beat Andy Jenkins 5-4!

Andy probably had one eye on something else, tbf.

**starts stopwatch**

dart players arent allowed to slag lads for getting beat by birds. some snowflake decreed this on here yesterday

[spaceman70]

Poor Jenks, Lisa hit a lot of 140s. Fair play.

[Ginge]

Lisa takes out 126 against the throw wo beat Andy Jenkins 5-4!

Andy probably had one eye on something else, tbf.

**starts stopwatch**

dart players arent allowed to slag lads for getting beat by birds. some snowflake decreed this on here yesterday

Au contraire, on this occasion it is especially hilarious.

[Lurgan]

Uncle Barry seems intent on increasing the prize monies available, talking about a £1m world championship first prize and when that happens all other prize funds will be increased - just as has happened previously so I see no reason why most of the 128 could not earn a decent wage whilst still having the opportunity (albeit a pipe dream for most) to become an instant millionaire by winning the flagship event.

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

so they are not professional dart players then?

this is exactly the point i was making - the pdc does not despite all the hype and bullshit support a professional tour of 128 players

[DavidB]

McGeeney vs Prins looks a good game.

[Zapp Brannigan]

the protour cant support 128 people pretending to be professional dart players

a 64 person tour that is actually able to see 64 players earn a living is much more preferable to the current situation where people pretending there is a protour of 128 professional players

Uncle Barry seems intent on increasing the prize monies available, talking about a £1m world championship first prize and when that happens all other prize funds will be increased - just as has happened previously so I see no reason why most of the 128 could not earn a decent wage whilst still having the opportunity (albeit a pipe dream for most) to become an instant millionaire by winning the flagship event.

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

But that’s completely irrelevant, it’s the potential money earnt that makes it professional not what the worse player gets.

If your offered a professional job where you could earn up to a million or as low as 4K you either take the risk and go for it or if your not willing to take the risk or your not good enough you don’t take it, you don’t complain at the organisations for offering it.

Would people moan that football isn’t professional because the shit players in league 2 or the youth players at premier league clubs arnt on enough money to to do it full time?

[Skewball]

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

so they are not professional dart players then?

this is exactly the point i was making - the pdc does not despite all the hype and bullshit support a professional tour of 128 players

oh good lord, of course they hype it, why wouldn't they, its business. 'hype and Bullshit'...! maybe but it gives you a tour of £15m. those 128 will take that 'bullshit' anyday of the week. Look how much it has come in the last 5 years, it quite something, not bullshit, just good business.

[redman]

Uncle Barry seems intent on increasing the prize monies available, talking about a £1m world championship first prize and when that happens all other prize funds will be increased - just as has happened previously so I see no reason why most of the 128 could not earn a decent wage whilst still having the opportunity (albeit a pipe dream for most) to become an instant millionaire by winning the flagship event.

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

You think it is fine that outside of about 30 odd players a supposed "professional sport" does not really provide a decent living from that "profession"

Imagine being one of the top 30/40 in the "world" at your chosen profession and barely making a decent wage.

[Skewball]

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

You think it is fine that outside of about 30 odd players a supposed "professional sport" does not really provide a decent living from that "profession"

Imagine being one of the top 30/40 in the "world" at your chosen profession and barely making a decent wage.

Brendan Dolan is 40 in the world , makes a very decent living I'm sure. £60k p/a on winnings, with tax deductible expenses plus exbo's non ranking prize money etc. That is a living.

[DavidB]

The Gladiator through 5-2 with a 92 average.

[Zapp Brannigan]

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

You think it is fine that outside of about 30 odd players a supposed "professional sport" does not really provide a decent living from that "profession"

Imagine being one of the top 30/40 in the "world" at your chosen profession and barely making a decent wage.

32nd is on 70k a year

42nd 50k a year

52nd 28k a year

I’d call all of them a decent living for playing darts

[Skewball]

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

You think it is fine that outside of about 30 odd players a supposed "professional sport" does not really provide a decent living from that "profession"

Imagine being one of the top 30/40 in the "world" at your chosen profession and barely making a decent wage.

32nd is on 70k a year

42nd 50k a year

52nd 28k a year

I’d call all of them a decent living for playing darts

plus its all about the potential, that dream of winning a big one.
Anyway, what is the point of all this? Should the PDC stop calling themselves professional? what do people want to happen? where has Barry said that the player ranked 128 makes a living wage?

[redman]

64th earnt 55k over 2 years

96th earnt 22k over 2 years

Can’t see 128th as the oom got reset

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

You think it is fine that outside of about 30 odd players a supposed "professional sport" does not really provide a decent living from that "profession"

Imagine being one of the top 30/40 in the "world" at your chosen profession and barely making a decent wage.

32nd is on 70k a year

42nd 50k a year

52nd 28k a year

I’d call all of them a decent living for playing darts

70k a year - minus a bomb load of expenses....Does not sound like a decent living to me for being the 32nd best in the "world" at your chosen profession. I am sitting typing this right now in sight of people who will earn close to double that this year for working a 35 hour week in an office.

[ChrisW]

you also have to go legal when joining the pro tour, so take taxes, costs etc out and that isnt a wage its food bank stuff

the point is that anyone from 64-128 is chasing the dream, try it for 2 or 3 years if you can then give up if you can't improve. I don't think anyone thinks they will make a permanent living at that ranking.
thats the way it should be , same with any sport. Its fine.

You think it is fine that outside of about 30 odd players a supposed "professional sport" does not really provide a decent living from that "profession"

Imagine being one of the top 30/40 in the "world" at your chosen profession and barely making a decent wage.

32nd is on 70k a year

42nd 50k a year

52nd 28k a year

I’d call all of them a decent living for playing darts

70k a year - minus a bomb load of expenses....Does not sound like a decent living to me for being the 32nd best in the "world" at your chosen profession. I am sitting typing this right now in sight of people who will earn close to double that this year for working a 35 hour week in an 'office'.

Lunch visit to the brothel again?

[nikkiboy]

Don't agree with this idea that if you lose a card you shouldn't be allowed to try again.
Players get injury problems, even young ones. You can have a couple of bad years.
If you are good enough to win a card you are good enough to play the tour.

Is anyone suggesting that, it’s stupid

The pdc only have 64 permanent places and 4-500 people wanting to be in it, you can’t stop people that are good enough to be in the top 128 but not in the top 64.

the protour cant support 128 people pretending to be professional dart players

a 64 person tour that is actually able to see 64 players earn a living is much more preferable to the current situation where people pretending there is a protour of 128 professional players

Uncle Barry seems intent on increasing the prize monies available, talking about a £1m world championship first prize and when that happens all other prize funds will be increased - just as has happened previously so I see no reason why most of the 128 could not earn a decent wage whilst still having the opportunity (albeit a pipe dream for most) to become an instant millionaire by winning the flagship event.

so how much are the professionals fro 64 to 128 earning a year then?

No different to any other profession, there are 'professional' boxers on benefits and people in most sports who chase their dream at their own cost. The fact is that if they are good enough they will earn good money, if not they will fail, that's life. In normal professions you get sets of people who do the same job who earn totally different amounts of money, salesmen at the same firm even who have different earnings because one is a better salesman than the other. Why do some 'professional' chefs earn millions and others scratch about working for Wetherspoons, simply put the better you are at a profession the more potential you have to earn.