When will lakeside/or any other venue gets announced

[devosteve]

Have sportotal ever had any of their deals they've negotiated for the BDO renewed?

No.

Unless I'm missing something very obvious.

Just to actually explain my point from earlier, the one that Oche missed: if they had actually done anything else for anyone it would be on the website or as a press release somewhere.

The only two deals on there as news articles relate to Lakeside 2017/8 and the Masters 2017. Both the same client and both well over a year old.

I'm assuming Des is hoping this deal ends after 2 years rather than any more...

http://www.sportotal.co.uk/news/bdo-representation

Office address in Bury, but the landline dialling codes are for Macclesfield. Not remotely like to cause anyone to doubt them in the least whatsoever. No sirree.

I am in Bury 3 or 4 times a week. Should I pop in and say hello?

[BlueSpark]

That website is appalling. Utter guff they have spouted.
Like this. Have they achieved this?

Review and revise the marketing strategy and specific campaigns to maximise both member and fan - acquisition retention and engagement across all channels.

The creation and implementation of fan engagement strategies and creative campaigns across all channels, utilising all the assets in the grant of rights

[BlueSpark]

And is the BDO their only client?

[Deleted User]

That website is appalling. Utter guff they have spouted.
Like this. Have they achieved this?

Review and revise the marketing strategy and specific campaigns to maximise both member and fan - acquisition retention and engagement across all channels.

The creation and implementation of fan engagement strategies and creative campaigns across all channels, utilising all the assets in the grant of rights

Translation - "we got lucky that C4 renewed a deal they were going to renew whether we were involved or not and now we're spouting frooty advertising-speak to cover for the fact we've genuinely done fuck all for the BDO in 2 years"

[BlueSpark]

Also, weren't they supposed to be taking the BDO to court?

[Ginge]

Also, weren't they supposed to be taking the BDO to court?

They have the BDO by the balls clearly.

If they are expecting a bumper finders fee then....

[BlueSpark]

Des can't announce anything as obviously Sportotal will be doing it. When they get around to organising it.

[Ginge]

Des can't announce anything as obviously Sportotal will be doing it. When they get around to organising it.

Oh they will be on it. They might be slowly realising nobody wants to pay much (or anything) for it though, which means no (or little) money for Sportotal.

Hence why it's taking so long.
Bear in mind Channel 4 will have told them months and months ago they wouldn't be renewing.

[BlueSpark]

It's remarkable how all the deals they sign turn out to be absolute crap

[Ginge]

It's remarkable how all the deals they sign turn out to be absolute crap

I dunno, getting a reported £400k out of C4 for two years worth of rights was probably a masterstroke.

[BlueSpark]

Des can't announce anything as obviously Sportotal will be doing it. When they get around to organising it.

Oh they will be on it. They might be slowly realising nobody wants to pay much (or anything) for it though, which means no (or little) money for Sportotal.

Hence why it's taking so long.
Bear in mind Channel 4 will have told them months and months ago they wouldn't be renewing.

Well they have had ample time to rearrange since the cash cow ended.
They are responsible for sourcing sponsors, fan base, commercial arm etc etc according to the website guff and no one gives a toss about their product anymore. It's their fault as much as anyone else's.

[The Jolly Man]

From Dartfreakz. (google translated )
The article features a picture of Richard Ashqdojn.


https://www.dartfreakz.nl/blog/wdfbdo-h ... elijkheid/

Still uncertainty over Lakeside

Because it should even be lack of communication about the Lakeside in 2019 was a long time whether the tournament would find a passage.

The redeeming answer came during the Winmau World Masters: Lakeside 2019 continues.

But beyond that there is nothing clear. Until today, the location is not yet confirmed, there is no television yet communicated and is also the ticket has not yet started.

With just 80 days before the first match is scheduled, is running out of time

paragraph 2 says Lakeside was confirmed during Masters. Paragraph 3 they confirm no venue confirmed. Haha

[Ginge]

Des can't announce anything as obviously Sportotal will be doing it. When they get around to organising it.

Oh they will be on it. They might be slowly realising nobody wants to pay much (or anything) for it though, which means no (or little) money for Sportotal.

Hence why it's taking so long.
Bear in mind Channel 4 will have told them months and months ago they wouldn't be renewing.

Well they have had ample time to rearrange since the cash cow ended.
They are responsible for sourcing sponsors, fan base, commercial arm etc etc according to the website guff and no one gives a toss about their product anymore. It's their fault as much as anyone else's.

And not a thing the BDO can do about it until the contract ends, it must be watertight as fek.

[The Jolly Man]

Aha, hence his "going away for two days and hoping it is all sorted by the time I come back " comment yesterday, was more in hope than expectation.

Oh dear oh dear. But not his fault, he has merely inherited the old contract.

Does this mean that the delay in announcing anything is purely down to Sportotal not being able to confirm TV etc, or is some brinkmanship by the BDO regarding the venue also involved?

No idea, this just muddies the waters. Probably now down to Sportotal as the BDO cant engage in meaningful discussions re. the venue until they are sorted?

But its a vicious circle as surely whoever is broadcasting it wants to know what venue it is at?

So have sportotal told them not to engage with Lakeside? Surely at the very least you sort the venue out which would not be part of the sportotal stuff to sort.

Didnt say that. But what do the BDO tell Potter when he asks what is going on with TV?

So is anything stopping the BDO from confirming with lakeside without waiting for sportotal and whatever they are supposed to be organising? With the fact that Lakeside haven’t invoked the hotel rooms for the week says they are happy to host no matter.

I guess the issue in that scenario may be if Potter would put up any prize pot

[Ginge]

Does this mean that the delay in announcing anything is purely down to Sportotal not being able to confirm TV etc, or is some brinkmanship by the BDO regarding the venue also involved?

No idea, this just muddies the waters. Probably now down to Sportotal as the BDO cant engage in meaningful discussions re. the venue until they are sorted?

But its a vicious circle as surely whoever is broadcasting it wants to know what venue it is at?

So have sportotal told them not to engage with Lakeside? Surely at the very least you sort the venue out which would not be part of the sportotal stuff to sort.

Didnt say that. But what do the BDO tell Potter when he asks what is going on with TV?

So is anything stopping the BDO from confirming with lakeside without waiting for sportotal and whatever they are supposed to be organising? With the fact that Lakeside haven’t invoked the hotel rooms for the week says they are happy to host no matter.

I guess the issue in that scenario may be if Potter would put up any prize pot

Would hazard a guess Potter can't decide anything until he knows what station is actually showing it.

[ChrisW]

Apparently all will be revealed tomorrow.

[BlueSpark]

Apparently all will be revealed tomorrow.

There's a comedy post there with a reference to Turkey in reply to that but I'm too tired to find it.

[ChrisW]

Going out on a limb here but guess we won't have an announcement tonight.

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[Deleted User]

paragraph 2 says Lakeside was confirmed during Masters. Paragraph 3 they confirm no venue confirmed. Haha

Does Paddy write their stuff?

[Deleted User]

It's remarkable how all the deals they sign turn out to be absolute crap

I dunno, getting a reported £400k out of C4 for two years worth of rights was probably a masterstroke.

They got lucky IMHO. C4 opted for another year that they were probably going to do anyway whether Sportotal were involved or not. That stroke of luck not only gave them some kudos but a nice commission to boot, no doubt.