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Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:00 pm
by oche balboa
World Trophy (Assuming 2018 Criteria) update

Top 19 Directly qualify & Adam Smith-Neale (World Masters Champion)

1 Richard Veenstra (Netherlands) 371
2 Jim Williams (Wales) 344
3 Wesley Harms (Netherlands) 343
4 Scott Mitchell (England) 328
5 Michael Unterbuchner (Germany) 314
6 Gary Robson (England) 277
7 Dave Parletti (England) 273
8 Scott Waites (England) 267
9 Wayne Warren (Wales) 260
10= Derk Telnekes (Netherlands) 238
10= Willem Mandigers (Netherlands) 238
12 Chris Landman (Netherlands) 237
13 Ross Montgomery (Scotland) 224
14 Andy Hamilton (England) 219
15 Kyle McKinstry (Northern Ireland) 211
16 Daniel Day (England) 199
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17 Nick Kenny (Wales) 197
18 Wez Newton (England) 188
19 Martijn Kleermaker (Netherlands) 187
============================================== (Also Qualified
20 Paul Hogan (England) 186
20= Ryan Hogarth (Scotland) 186
============================================== (Qualified due to Regional ranking)
22 Mario Vandenbogaerde (Belgium) 185
23= Jeffrey van Egdom (Belgium) 177
23= Wouter Vaes (Netherlands) 177
25= Adam Smith-Neale (England) 165
25= Justin Thompson (Australia) 165
27 Dean Reynolds (Wales) 154


Regional Qualifiers

Baltic- Brian Løkken (Denmark)
British- (Parletti is top but in top 18, So place goes to main table)
Canada- Dave Cameron (Canada)
East Europe- Sebastian Steyer (Poland)
New Zealand- Mark McGrath (New Zealand)
United States- Joe Chaney (USA)
Western- (Unterbuchner top but in top 18, Place goes to main table)
Australia- Justin Thompson (Australia)
Asia- ?



Ladies

Top 13 & Suzuki, Also 2 qualifiers

1 Lisa Ashton (England) 410
2 Aileen de Graaf (Netherlands) 384
3 Lorraine Winstanley (England) 383
4 Deta Hedman (England) 382
5 Fallon Sherrock (England) 369
6 Anastasia Dobromyslova (Russia) 368
7 Laura Turner (England) 299
8 Trina Gulliver MBE (England) 289
===================================== (Seeds)
9 Maria O'Brien (England) 285
10 Sharon Prins (Netherlands) 276
11 Casey Gallagher (England) 274
=====================================(Also Qualified)
12 Paula Jacklin (England) 252
13 Corrine Hammond (Australia) 238
===================================== (Qualified due to 2 of 3 tv winners in top 11
14 Roz Bulmer (England) 237
15 Vicky Pruim (Sweden) 222
16 Kirsty Hutchinson (England) 211
17 Priscilla Steenbergen (Netherlands) 210
18 Anca Zijlstra (Netherlands) 209

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:07 am
by oche balboa
Updated after German Open/Masters weekend

Bold= Already Qualified
Italic= Would be Debutant

1 Richard Veenstra (Netherlands) 272
2 Scott Mitchell (England) 254
3 Wesley Harms (Netherlands) 246
4 Adam Smith-Neale (England) 181
5 Dave Parletti (England) 179
6 Martijn Kleermaker (Netherlands) 150
7 Scott Waites (England) 149
8 = Jim Williams (Wales) 148
8 = Wayne Warren (Wales) 148
10 Chris Landman (Netherlands) 144
11 Gary Robson (England) 141
12 Mario Vandenbogaerde (Belgium) 140
13 Willem Mandigers (Netherlands) 130
14 Aaron Turner (England) 114
15 Nick Kenny (Wales) 106
16 = Michael Unterbuchner (Germany) 104
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16 = Wouter Vaes (Netherlands) 104
18 Tony Martin (England) 103
19 = Ross Montgomery (Scotland) 98
19 = Sebastian Steyer (Poland) 98
21 Ryan Hogarth (Scotland) 95
22 John Scott (England) 94
23 Derk Telnekes (Netherlands) 93
24 = Craig Venman (England) 91
25 = Jeffrey Sparidaans (Netherlands) 91
26 Francis Carragher (Republic of Ireland) 87
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27 = Andy Hamilton (England) 83
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27 = Cody Harris (New Zealand) 83
27 = Martin Adams (England) 83
30 Adam Mould (England) 82
31 Tony O'Shea (England) 81
32 Paul Brown (Northern Ireland) 80
33 David Cameron (Canada) 78
34 Gary Stone (Scotland) 75
35 Leonard Gates (USA) 73
36 Joe Chaney (USA) 72
37 Darryl Fitton (England) 71
38 Thibault Tricole (France) 70
39 = Gary Stafford (England) 66
39 = Gino Vos (Netherlands) 66


Selected others

44th- Paul Hogan
46th- Martin Phillips
49th- Kyle McKinstry
52nd- Wes Newton
56th- Jeff Smith
71st- Diogo Portela
74th- Jamie Caven
79th- Leighton Bennett
84th- Brian Dawson
95th- Andy Jenkins
100th- Dean Reynolds


Regional Leaders

Baltic & Scandinavia- Nauris Gleglu (Latvia)
British Isles- Paul Hogan (England)
Canada- David Cameron (Canada)
Eastern Europe- Benjamin Pratnemer (Slovenia) (Sebastian Steyer in top 26)
New Zealand- Darren Herewini (New Zealand)
USA- Leonard Gates (USA)
Western Europe- Jeffrey van Egdom (Belgium)
Australia- Justin Thompson (Australia)
Asia- ????

Plus 4 further qualifiers

Ladies

1 Lisa Ashton (England) 345
2 Aileen de Graaf (Netherlands) 325
3 Deta Hedman (England) 283
4 Laura Turner (England) 260
5 Anastasia Dobromyslova (Russia) 239
6 Paula Jacklin (England) 229
7 Lorraine Winstanley (England) 223
8 Trina Gulliver MBE (England) 215
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9 Maria O'Brien (England) 210
10 Fallon Sherrock (England) 204
11 Kirsty Hutchinson (England) 194
12 Priscilla Steenbergen (Netherlands) 193
13 Jo Clements (England) 188

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14 Julie Thompson (England) 158
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15 Andreea Brad (Romania) 155
16 Casey Gallagher (England) 145
17 Margaret Sutton (England) 130
18 Mikuru Suzuki (Japan) 126
19 Corrine Hammond (Australia) 123
20 Sharon Prins (Netherlands) 94


Plus 2 futher qualifiers

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:49 pm
by BlueSpark
That is the most tragic top 16 ever.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:54 pm
by el_ringo
BlueSpark wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:49 pm That is the most tragic top 16 ever.
Well I reckon this is worse

6 Paula Jacklin (England) 229

Women's darts can't be in that bad a state can it ?

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:12 pm
by Ginge
Cant argue with that.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:17 pm
by BlueSpark
Indeed

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:39 pm
by oche balboa
Majors/TV events should be double points of CAT A+

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:25 pm
by ILAD
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:40 pm Hopefully Tricole can get himself into the top 26. The more non British and Benelux players qualified the better.

Also hope Tony Martin qualifies as he is always honest and unlike others can take a joke on here.
So no more British or Benelux players but Tony Martin is ok? Odd.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:46 pm
by ILAD
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:40 pm Also let’s hope the American qualifier this year is actually one of their better players who could do damage at Lakeside rather than the likes of Widmayer. Though a lot also depends of which yanks qualify for the PDC worlds.
So if Widmayer qualifies then he is obviously the better player?

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm
by ILAD
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 pm
ILAD wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:46 pm
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:40 pm Also let’s hope the American qualifier this year is actually one of their better players who could do damage at Lakeside rather than the likes of Widmayer. Though a lot also depends of which yanks qualify for the PDC worlds.
So if Widmayer qualifies then he is obviously the better player?
Given the points system no he isn’t. A lot of it especially in America comes down to who is willing to travel the most. Many of the better US players don’t do much of the BDO tour and instead focus on the CDC or/and softip events.
So if they can’t be arsed to travel or play in the BDO events then tough titties, Widmayer does.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:59 pm
by Deleted User
el_ringo wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:54 pm
BlueSpark wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:49 pm That is the most tragic top 16 ever.
Well I reckon this is worse

6 Paula Jacklin (England) 229

Women's darts can't be in that bad a state can it ?
There are girls in the Crewe league better than her. Just don't play the tour or have the cash or the time to do the travel club. It's a joke.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:00 pm
by ChrisW
DavidOwen67 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:59 pm
el_ringo wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:54 pm
BlueSpark wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:49 pm That is the most tragic top 16 ever.
Well I reckon this is worse

6 Paula Jacklin (England) 229

Women's darts can't be in that bad a state can it ?
There are girls in the Crewe league better than her. Just don't play the tour or have the cash or the time to do the travel club. It's a joke.
Oche forgot to put #5 in that's why it looks tragic.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:01 pm
by Deleted User
John Scott putting the miles in.

One of the good guys. Be great if he and Spud qualified.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:31 pm
by oche balboa
DavidOwen67 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:59 pm
el_ringo wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:54 pm
BlueSpark wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:49 pm That is the most tragic top 16 ever.
Well I reckon this is worse

6 Paula Jacklin (England) 229

Women's darts can't be in that bad a state can it ?
There are girls in the Crewe league better than her. Just don't play the tour or have the cash or the time to do the travel club. It's a joke.
There isn't mate otherwise there be in the county set up

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:33 pm
by Deleted User
oche balboa wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:31 pm
DavidOwen67 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:59 pm
el_ringo wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:54 pm
BlueSpark wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:49 pm That is the most tragic top 16 ever.
Well I reckon this is worse

6 Paula Jacklin (England) 229

Women's darts can't be in that bad a state can it ?
There are girls in the Crewe league better than her. Just don't play the tour or have the cash or the time to do the travel club. It's a joke.
There isn't mate otherwise there be in the county set up
Oh dear. 2 are in county, don't play opens. No ranking points for county, you dolt.

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:38 pm
by ChrisW
All Crewe darters are world beaters hadn't you heard?

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:51 pm
by ILAD
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:43 pm
ILAD wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 pm
ILAD wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:46 pm
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:40 pm Also let’s hope the American qualifier this year is actually one of their better players who could do damage at Lakeside rather than the likes of Widmayer. Though a lot also depends of which yanks qualify for the PDC worlds.
So if Widmayer qualifies then he is obviously the better player?
Given the points system no he isn’t. A lot of it especially in America comes down to who is willing to travel the most. Many of the better US players don’t do much of the BDO tour and instead focus on the CDC or/and softip events.
So if they can’t be arsed to travel or play in the BDO events then tough titties, Widmayer does.

But still isn’t the best player in fact in the years he has qualified he has won less events than other Americans, the points system is rubbish.
What could be an alternative?

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:53 pm
by oche balboa
DavidOwen67 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:33 pm
oche balboa wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:31 pm
DavidOwen67 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:59 pm
el_ringo wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:54 pm
BlueSpark wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:49 pm That is the most tragic top 16 ever.
Well I reckon this is worse

6 Paula Jacklin (England) 229

Women's darts can't be in that bad a state can it ?
There are girls in the Crewe league better than her. Just don't play the tour or have the cash or the time to do the travel club. It's a joke.
There isn't mate otherwise there be in the county set up
Oh dear. 2 are in county, don't play opens. No ranking points for county, you dolt.
Ok, Are they averaging more in their games then Paula Jacklin

I'm no fan of Paula Jacklin but as in terms of Ladies standard she is that bad a player. Has won 3 events back to back recently and it had Dobromyslova in the field for one of them. Time to stop this shite, Yes she should do better on TV but you could say the same for Jamie Caven, Ian White, Gary Robson etc

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:57 pm
by oche balboa
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:43 pm
ILAD wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:55 pm
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:49 pm
ILAD wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:46 pm
phil davies wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:40 pm Also let’s hope the American qualifier this year is actually one of their better players who could do damage at Lakeside rather than the likes of Widmayer. Though a lot also depends of which yanks qualify for the PDC worlds.
So if Widmayer qualifies then he is obviously the better player?
Given the points system no he isn’t. A lot of it especially in America comes down to who is willing to travel the most. Many of the better US players don’t do much of the BDO tour and instead focus on the CDC or/and softip events.
So if they can’t be arsed to travel or play in the BDO events then tough titties, Widmayer does.
But still isn’t the best player in fact in the years he has qualified he has won less events than other Americans, the points system is rubbish.
Look you want all the players to play PDC events then you moan when you get someone who dont like/rate qualifying for a BDO major

Re: Road to BDO World Championship 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:59 pm
by ILAD
I certainly wouldn’t put Ian White in the same bracket as Jamie Craven and Gary Robson.