Seeds have been announced - Unterbuchner one of them!

Seed Name Surname Country BDO WDF
1 Scott Mitchell England 5
2 Michael Unterbuchner Germany 6
3 Richard Veenstra Netherlands 7
4 Gary Robson England 8
5 Derk Telnekes Netherlands 13
6 Willem Mandigers Netherlands 15
7 Martin Phillips Wales 16
8 Ross Montgomery Scotland 17
9 Scott Baker England 18
10 Wouter Vaes Netherlands 22
11 Tony O'Shea England 26
12 Mark Layton Wales 29
13 Francis Carragher Ireland 37 20
14 Aaron Turner England 37 105
15 Craig Venman England 40 28
16 Daniel Nicholls England 40 90
17 Jeffrey Sparidaans Netherlands 42
18 Gary Stafford England 45
19 Ryan Hogarth Scotland 46
20 Andreas Harrysson Sweden 48
21 Paul Brown N. Ireland 51
22 John Scott England 58
23 Nick Fulwell England 63
24 Brian Lokken Denmark 64
25 Carl Wilkinson England 81
26 Gabriel Pascaru Romania 85
27 Michel Van der Horst Netherlands 90 76
28 Sven Verdonck Belgium 90 145
29 Pál Székely Hungary 95
30 Alexander Merkx Netherlands 96
31 Garry Thompson England 98
32 Mark Blandford Wales 101


Women's singles

Seed Name Surname Country BDO
1 Lisa Ashton England 1
2 Deta Hedman England 2
3 Lorraine Winstanley England 6
4 Trina Gulliver MBE England 8
5 Casey Gallagher England 9
6 Maria O'Brien England 10
7 Paula Jacklin England 12
8 Laura Turner England 14
9 Priscilla Steenbergen Netherlands 20
10 Deana Rosenblom Sweden 21
11 Julie Thompson England 22
12 Margaret Sutton England 23
13 Kirsty Hutchinson England 24
14 Nikki Goldsmith Wales 25
15 Jo Clements England 26
16 Andreea Brad Romania 32

Surprised not to see Scott Waites there

Must be some shelving that needs doing, maybe somewhere like Slaithwaite or Hebden Bridge.

Or something.

Draws are up:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... M2NjViOGQw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... I0ZGE2ODg4

Always an excellent event - assume the local tv station will be providing the live stream again??

Addicks Fan wrote:Draws are up:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... M2NjViOGQw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... I0ZGE2ODg4

What I like about DFW is it never seems to pitch 2 players from the same country against each other in the 1st rounds at a few of these events

oche balboa wrote:Surprised not to see Scott Waites there

He’s busy at 10 Downing Street making a new cabinet

neil rose wrote:

Addicks Fan wrote:Draws are up:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... M2NjViOGQw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... I0ZGE2ODg4

What I like about DFW is it never seems to pitch 2 players from the same country against each other in the 1st rounds at a few of these events

Good spot. Looks like a void draw to me then if they have done that, same as the Turkish ones the other year were....

Ginge wrote:

neil rose wrote:

Addicks Fan wrote:Draws are up:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... M2NjViOGQw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... I0ZGE2ODg4

What I like about DFW is it never seems to pitch 2 players from the same country against each other in the 1st rounds at a few of these events

Good spot. Looks like a void draw to me then if they have done that, same as the Turkish ones the other year were....

Won't they also have to do it because one of the seeds has withdrawn?

Addicks Fan wrote:

Ginge wrote:

neil rose wrote:

Addicks Fan wrote:Draws are up:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... M2NjViOGQw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... I0ZGE2ODg4

What I like about DFW is it never seems to pitch 2 players from the same country against each other in the 1st rounds at a few of these events

Good spot. Looks like a void draw to me then if they have done that, same as the Turkish ones the other year were....

Won't they also have to do it because one of the seeds has withdrawn?

No idea. But if they have purposely kept countries apart then it isnt a proper draw. This really should be clarified in the BDO tournament rules, organisers are evidently doing it thinking its doing the players a favour.

Ginge wrote:

Addicks Fan wrote:

Ginge wrote:

neil rose wrote:

Addicks Fan wrote:Draws are up:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... M2NjViOGQw

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... I0ZGE2ODg4

What I like about DFW is it never seems to pitch 2 players from the same country against each other in the 1st rounds at a few of these events

Good spot. Looks like a void draw to me then if they have done that, same as the Turkish ones the other year were....

Won't they also have to do it because one of the seeds has withdrawn?

No idea. But if they have purposely kept countries apart then it isnt a proper draw. This really should be clarified in the BDO tournament rules, organisers are evidently doing it thinking its doing the players a favour.

dodgy as Fuck. Way too many entrants to be a coincidence, once again the odds of it happening are daft. Something has to be going on with the software, it just does not feel right.

Wasnt it determined last time that when doing a normal draw in DfW there actually isnt a button to keep separate countries (or counties) apart, and this is only a feature of doing special draws like the Gold Cup/World Cup ones?

Ginge wrote:Wasnt it determined last time that when doing a normal draw in DfW there actually isnt a button to keep separate countries (or counties) apart, and this is only a feature of doing special draws like the Gold Cup/World Cup ones?

yes, but it was never established whether you could use that 'special feature' in a normal draw. I can't get too excited as I'm not in these draws but personally I think it does need looking at, it feels a little Hhhh.

Still, lets see what Paul makes of this thread when he reports back to our FB arm of TSOD. I can almost write his post for him....

Bag Carrier wrote:

oche balboa wrote:Surprised not to see Scott Waites there

He’s busy at 10 Downing Street making a new cabinet

I see what you did there!

Skewball wrote:

Ginge wrote:Wasnt it determined last time that when doing a normal draw in DfW there actually isnt a button to keep separate countries (or counties) apart, and this is only a feature of doing special draws like the Gold Cup/World Cup ones?

yes, but it was never established whether you could use that 'special feature' in a normal draw. I can't get too excited as I'm not in these draws but personally I think it does need looking at, it feels a little Hhhh.

Still, lets see what Paul makes of this thread when he reports back to our FB arm of TSOD. I can almost write his post for him....

Someone needs to start a thread on there.

BlueSpark wrote:

Skewball wrote:

Ginge wrote:Wasnt it determined last time that when doing a normal draw in DfW there actually isnt a button to keep separate countries (or counties) apart, and this is only a feature of doing special draws like the Gold Cup/World Cup ones?

yes, but it was never established whether you could use that 'special feature' in a normal draw. I can't get too excited as I'm not in these draws but personally I think it does need looking at, it feels a little Hhhh.

Still, lets see what Paul makes of this thread when he reports back to our FB arm of TSOD. I can almost write his post for him....

Someone needs to start a thread on there.

In your own time then

Ginge wrote:

BlueSpark wrote:

Skewball wrote:

Ginge wrote:Wasnt it determined last time that when doing a normal draw in DfW there actually isnt a button to keep separate countries (or counties) apart, and this is only a feature of doing special draws like the Gold Cup/World Cup ones?

yes, but it was never established whether you could use that 'special feature' in a normal draw. I can't get too excited as I'm not in these draws but personally I think it does need looking at, it feels a little Hhhh.

Still, lets see what Paul makes of this thread when he reports back to our FB arm of TSOD. I can almost write his post for him....

Someone needs to start a thread on there.

In your own time then

Busy working atm, not allowed my phone.
Ill start one at lunch on my fag break.

No no no. Do none of you remember this from last time?

It was proven conclusively that no players of the same nationality being drawn against each other, in repeated draws, for fields of over 1000 was perfectly normal. It is just as statistically likely (if not more likely) as two unspecified players being drawn against each other more than once in multiple draws for fields of 128.

Rout and IFM proved it using statistical probability theory, quadratic equations, a set of digital calipers, guesswork, and making it up as they went along.

Nothing to see here.

Buzz Fledderjohn wrote:No no no. Do none of you remember this from last time?

It was proven conclusively that no players of the same nationality being drawn against each other, in repeated draws, for fields of over 1000 was perfectly normal. It is just as statistically likely (if not more likely) as two unspecified players being drawn against each other more than once in multiple draws for fields of 128.

Rout and IFM proved it using statistical probability theory, quadratic equations, a set of digital calipers, guesswork, and making it up as they went along.

Nothing to see here.

It was good fun watching them trying to defend it.

What's the odds