2019 Lakeside World Professional Darts Championships 5-13 Jan 2019

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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:46 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmI think its a pretty sad state of affairs that they can even qualify to Lakeside to be honest, neither looked good enough

Sad state for who exactly?? Let's remember they both only just sneaked into Lakeside and had to play a prelim match.
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmthere are probably 200 County players as good as them who if they devoted time to the BDO tour could have the potential to qualify.

And this is the difference - those players might be out there but as Bobby George says, you have to be in it to win it!
The competition. It reinforces what the comp has become
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Astonvilla wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:47 pm Both Hamilton and Newton should be aiming for the Challenge Tour and another shot at The BDO WC next year.
Probably the right course. Look at the names who got in the PDC one via the one year list, chocka full of youngsters. If you pitted Aspinall, Searle or Luke Humphries against either Newton or Hamilton now, it would be a bloodbath.

People like O'Shea know they wouldnt find it difficult getting in the PDC one now, even before Hankey had his "incident" at the Slam (believe what you want about what actually happened) he was nowhere near getting in the Worlds that year.
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Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:48 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:46 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmI think its a pretty sad state of affairs that they can even qualify to Lakeside to be honest, neither looked good enough

Sad state for who exactly?? Let's remember they both only just sneaked into Lakeside and had to play a prelim match.
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmthere are probably 200 County players as good as them who if they devoted time to the BDO tour could have the potential to qualify.

And this is the difference - those players might be out there but as Bobby George says, you have to be in it to win it!
The competition. It reinforces what the comp has become

Really?? So if a premier league star moves down to play for a club in league two it degrades the EFL does it??
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Ginge wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Astonvilla wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:47 pm Both Hamilton and Newton should be aiming for the Challenge Tour and another shot at The BDO WC next year.
Probably the right course. Look at the names who got in the PDC one via the one year list, chocka full of youngsters. If you pitted Aspinall, Searle or Luke Humphries against either Newton or Hamilton now, it would be a bloodbath.

Nah, those guys are only big stage players so we're told :grin:
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Astonvilla wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:47 pm Both Hamilton and Newton should be aiming for the Challenge Tour and another shot at The BDO WC next year.


But don't you have to play Q School to get into the Challenge Tour??
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Good crowd in for a Monday afternoon
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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:51 pm
Astonvilla wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:47 pm Both Hamilton and Newton should be aiming for the Challenge Tour and another shot at The BDO WC next year.


But don't you have to play Q School to get into the Challenge Tour??
Just have to turn up for one day, I believe. Can lose 5-0 first game and be out the door within a few hours.
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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:48 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:46 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmI think its a pretty sad state of affairs that they can even qualify to Lakeside to be honest, neither looked good enough

Sad state for who exactly?? Let's remember they both only just sneaked into Lakeside and had to play a prelim match.
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmthere are probably 200 County players as good as them who if they devoted time to the BDO tour could have the potential to qualify.

And this is the difference - those players might be out there but as Bobby George says, you have to be in it to win it!
The competition. It reinforces what the comp has become

Really?? So if a premier league star moves down to play for a club in league two it degrades the EFL does it??
It doesn't degrade the efl because the efl is a step down the ladder in the football system.
The point being made is that these players have re enforced the view/fact that this comp is on a lower level than the pdc wc.
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Not seen Newton's or Hamiltons games but there is a reason they couldn't win a game in the PDC for 12 months and lost their tour cards....and their performances probably show why that happened.....they are both yesterday men..has beens I'm afraid to say..
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Ginge wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:52 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:51 pm
Astonvilla wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:47 pm Both Hamilton and Newton should be aiming for the Challenge Tour and another shot at The BDO WC next year.


But don't you have to play Q School to get into the Challenge Tour??
Just have to turn up for one day, I believe. Can lose 5-0 first game and be out the door within a few hours.

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The way they have both played they have no chance of getting a tour card anyway. There will be much better players who will come away after 4 days without one.
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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Really?? So if a premier league star moves down to play for a club in league two it degrades the EFL does it??
If you ever saw George Best play at the tail of his career like at Hibernian then woudl understand the point of the original posts
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el_ringo wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:03 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Really?? So if a premier league star moves down to play for a club in league two it degrades the EFL does it??
If you ever saw George Best play at the tail of his career like at Hibernian then woudl understand the point of the original posts

No but I saw Peter Shilton play down the leagues :grin:
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A 27 dart hold to win, there. Dear god.
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Well the serb won. Hogarth didn't seem happy about something. Walked straight off after handshake (are they still doing little Richard announcing their names before they exit?).

And a bit of whoaing, from the crowd, when on the winning foul!
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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:48 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:46 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmI think its a pretty sad state of affairs that they can even qualify to Lakeside to be honest, neither looked good enough

Sad state for who exactly?? Let's remember they both only just sneaked into Lakeside and had to play a prelim match.
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmthere are probably 200 County players as good as them who if they devoted time to the BDO tour could have the potential to qualify.

And this is the difference - those players might be out there but as Bobby George says, you have to be in it to win it!
The competition. It reinforces what the comp has become

Really?? So if a premier league star moves down to play for a club in league two it degrades the EFL does it??
when the BDO is still claiming to be the 'World Professional Championships' yes. (I will ignore the silly comparison)
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Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:17 pm when the BDO is still claiming to be the 'World Professional Championships' yes. (I will ignore the silly comparison)


Ah right - do you actually believe people still look at that?? :grin:
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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:48 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:46 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmI think its a pretty sad state of affairs that they can even qualify to Lakeside to be honest, neither looked good enough

Sad state for who exactly?? Let's remember they both only just sneaked into Lakeside and had to play a prelim match.
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmthere are probably 200 County players as good as them who if they devoted time to the BDO tour could have the potential to qualify.

And this is the difference - those players might be out there but as Bobby George says, you have to be in it to win it!
The competition. It reinforces what the comp has become

Really?? So if a premier league star moves down to play for a club in league two it degrades the EFL does it??
It shows it for what it is.

But, it's OK, the BDO _should_ be a place where has-beens go, along with the don't-really-wannabes, never-will-bes, and the not-yet-and-probably-nevers. It's only the pretence that it's anything else that's been a problem for the past few years.
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another pdc pro that couldnt handle the lakey stage - think of it as different flavours of ice cream - ally pally is easier to master - takes a certain type of playe to master lakey - some never do - like anderson and wade -

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Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:17 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:48 pm
DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:46 pm
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmI think its a pretty sad state of affairs that they can even qualify to Lakeside to be honest, neither looked good enough

Sad state for who exactly?? Let's remember they both only just sneaked into Lakeside and had to play a prelim match.
Skewball wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pmthere are probably 200 County players as good as them who if they devoted time to the BDO tour could have the potential to qualify.

And this is the difference - those players might be out there but as Bobby George says, you have to be in it to win it!
The competition. It reinforces what the comp has become

Really?? So if a premier league star moves down to play for a club in league two it degrades the EFL does it??
when the BDO is still claiming to be the 'World Professional Championships' yes. (I will ignore the silly comparison)

They don't just claim it, It is recognised by the official governing body as the worlds professional darts championship. Lakeside attracts a darts crowd because they know it is the real world championship while ally pally attracts people who aren't interested in darts and do not pay attention to what is happening on the stage and are there to get drunk and mess about.
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