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Anyone any idea of how many players that have won cards over the years that have survived after their 2 year card has expired?

Can’t imagine it’s a very large group.
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Black Velvet wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:51 pm Some extraordinarily underwhelming candidates for the cards left here.
This. Streaking players on hot days have a better chance than steady consistent players.

Tour Card winners are usually a mixture of well established players and complete unknowns who have 1 good day.
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brainim wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:05 pm and Hamilton scrapes through after taking 5 on the bounce
Then blobs it from 4-2 up. Loads of match darts missed.
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Rout wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:51 pm Am I on premod?

Started a new thread for the zero legs club and it said needed approving by a mod
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spaceman70 wrote:Anyone any idea of how many players that have won cards over the years that have survived after their 2 year card has expired?

Can’t imagine it’s a very large group.
Rankings make it impossible for any more than the odd few doing it

Your having to get to £60k within 2 years, you can’t get that just winning the odd game on the tour

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So Gary Blades from Lincoln.

I guess he’s not one of the “massive”.
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spaceman70 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:49 pm Anyone any idea of how many players that have won cards over the years that have survived after their 2 year card has expired?

Can’t imagine it’s a very large group.
I've got a thread up on the tourcard winners. Would be good anaysis
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oche balboa wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:14 pm
spaceman70 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:49 pm Anyone any idea of how many players that have won cards over the years that have survived after their 2 year card has expired?

Can’t imagine it’s a very large group.
I've got a thread up on the tourcard winners. Would be good anaysis
As Zapp has said, very difficult to break the top 64 in 2 years. Qualifying for Euros is a must.
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Alan Norris with a "U OK hun? Inbox me" kinda Tweet this evening, I see
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Just looking at these results from earlier - this is bloody brutal.
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So essentially, are tour cards useless unless you're very very good?

I mean, granted they can live the 2 year dream, and potentially play some darting superstars along the way, and say I did it.

But the majority don't really earn much, and then end up back in the heap 2 years later?
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MrLil8 wrote:So essentially, are tour cards useless unless you're very very good?

I mean, granted they can live the 2 year dream, and potentially play some darting superstars along the way, and say I did it.

But the majority don't really earn much, and then end up back in the heap 2 years later?
Of course, it's the natural cycle and the same in most sports. The difference with darts is that as age is no barrier they keep coming back and keep trying. But in terms of them chasing the dream and a small % making it then that's life.
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MrLil8 wrote:So essentially, are tour cards useless unless you're very very good?

I mean, granted they can live the 2 year dream, and potentially play some darting superstars along the way, and say I did it.

But the majority don't really earn much, and then end up back in the heap 2 years later?
I think something needs changing but don’t really know what the alternative is.
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Ginge wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:25 pm Alan Norris with a "U OK hun? Inbox me" kinda Tweet this evening, I see ImageImage
I'm guessing Hamilton upset him, to be fair did you see how slow Hamilton was playing today, the Semi final from other side of the draw had finished before Hamilton even finished his last 8 match, every match he was in finished way after the next round had already started
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Ginge wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:39 pm
brainim wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:37 pm what the hell did Fallon hit, had 79 left with 3 darts and left 31
Probably strayed into T3, left 70, then went 20 - missed bull?
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Zapp Brannigan wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:34 pm
MrLil8 wrote:So essentially, are tour cards useless unless you're very very good?

I mean, granted they can live the 2 year dream, and potentially play some darting superstars along the way, and say I did it.

But the majority don't really earn much, and then end up back in the heap 2 years later?
I think something needs changing but don’t really know what the alternative is.
Maybe people who lose a card can't re-enter for X amount of years... X being 5, maybe...

Maybe they take over the BDO (new name) and create the Championship of Darts. The pathway to PDC, a larger more varied Q School.

Gives plenty a smell of PDC, whilst over a year of competing amongst each other, only the very best 31 get cards?
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MrLil8 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:43 pm
Zapp Brannigan wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:34 pm
MrLil8 wrote:So essentially, are tour cards useless unless you're very very good?

I mean, granted they can live the 2 year dream, and potentially play some darting superstars along the way, and say I did it.

But the majority don't really earn much, and then end up back in the heap 2 years later?
I think something needs changing but don’t really know what the alternative is.
Maybe people who lose a card can't re-enter for X amount of years... X being 5, maybe...
stupid idea because that would mean each year Q school would get weaker as you excluded players good enough to win cards
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brainim wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:47 pm
MrLil8 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:43 pm
Zapp Brannigan wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:34 pm
MrLil8 wrote:So essentially, are tour cards useless unless you're very very good?

I mean, granted they can live the 2 year dream, and potentially play some darting superstars along the way, and say I did it.

But the majority don't really earn much, and then end up back in the heap 2 years later?
I think something needs changing but don’t really know what the alternative is.
Maybe people who lose a card can't re-enter for X amount of years... X being 5, maybe...
stupid idea because that would mean each year Q school would get weaker as you excluded players good enough to win cards
Is the correct answer. Beyond stupid.

Why should the 65th ranked player who made 60K over 2 years on the Tour, can clearly play and just missed out be excluded, but the lunatic who had a 32 average be allowed to compete.
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brainim wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:47 pm
MrLil8 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:43 pm
Zapp Brannigan wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:34 pm
MrLil8 wrote:So essentially, are tour cards useless unless you're very very good?

I mean, granted they can live the 2 year dream, and potentially play some darting superstars along the way, and say I did it.

But the majority don't really earn much, and then end up back in the heap 2 years later?
I think something needs changing but don’t really know what the alternative is.
Maybe people who lose a card can't re-enter for X amount of years... X being 5, maybe...
stupid idea because that would mean each year Q school would get weaker as you excluded players good enough to win cards
Why fella? I mean, todays shown that the 'best players' don't win, it's on the day and down to abit of luck with draws and timing.

If you're on the tour for 2 years and then fall out, why be allowed to try again? Maybe let others and new applicants try.
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Absolutely absurd idea. Sorry
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