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Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:10 pm
by 1205
Lauby v Brown
Lowe v Andy Hamilton
Murray v Newell
Blades v Collins
Not too exciting.
Leitinger's started well against Kleermaker. 2-0 up, plus the darts, starting with 2 15-darters.
... and Kleermaker broke back with a 13-darter, then held in 15 for 2-2.
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:12 pm
by Skewball
Poor old Moongoose getting a pasting on FB today after trolling about averages at Q School.
Bit embarrassing for him as most dont realise he is just winding people so they all think hes a dick! Lol
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:18 pm
by Gruntface
Skewball wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:12 pm
Poor old Moongoose getting a pasting on FB today after trolling about averages at Q School.
Bit embarrassing for him as most dont realise he is just winding people so they all think hes a dick! Lol
I've been a member of multiple facebook groups over the years and have never seen one where so many bite on so many obvious troll posts.
It's quite glorious.
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:20 pm
by brainim
Brown into last 4
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:21 pm
by brainim
Now we have to wait an hour for Hamilton to finish playing
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:22 pm
by TheSandman
Kleermaker 4-4
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:22 pm
by Wubbalubbadubdub
Gaz Blades having a cracking day, a player I used to know from the forum "PuntersLounge". Into the semis now!
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm
by TheSandman
Leitinger wins the tour card
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm
by MrLil8
Kleermaker loses. Had 3 from 74 to break and win.
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:25 pm
by 1205
And Leitinger won. Kleermaker couldn't take out 74, was left on 10, Leitinger taking out 56 with his 18th dart.
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:25 pm
by MrLil8
Guessing he went T18, inside D10. Miss D5.
So 2 at double for a card. Should handily wrap a card up though regardless.
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:25 pm
by Skewball
Gruntface wrote:Skewball wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:12 pm
Poor old Moongoose getting a pasting on FB today after trolling about averages at Q School.
Bit embarrassing for him as most dont realise he is just winding people so they all think hes a dick! Lol
I've been a member of multiple facebook groups over the years and have never seen one where so many bite on so many obvious troll posts.
It's quite glorious.
It is as an onlooker
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:26 pm
by mik252
Fair play if anyone picked Harald Leitinger in the prediction competition.
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:35 pm
by masticman
Shocking from hammer hits 95 1st 3. Then goes s20 s20 gotta go 19s to leave 347. No hots s20 to leave 346. Mad. Then o. 262 hits a ton leaves 162 shocking counting
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:42 pm
by DavidB
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:39 pm
1205 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:22 pm
Buzz Fledderjohn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:19 pm
1205 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:15 pm
McKinstry v Williams has started.
Williams won the bull and the first leg in 18 darts with McKinstry having been unable to take out 81 with 6 darts.
McKinstry going crazy with his scoring again in leg 2. 86 after 9 darts, and took 7 darts from there.
Cruel draw for both of them.
Q School really needs some kind of seeding.
No it doesn't.
Leaving aside the nightmare of how you'd actually go about seeding it, it is by it's very nature supposed to be cut-throat.
The PDC seeds all but one event (UK Open) they have. They obviously don't want it to the cut-throat.
Some of the qualifiers have rankings on:
PDC OOM
PDC Challenge Tour OOM
BDO rankings
WDF rankings if they wanted to as well.
If it were winner takes all (e.g. Women's PDC World Championship qualifiers), it wouldn't be such a problem because theoretically the best player will win.
But with multiple winners each day and more people qualifying through a table, the random draw increases the negative impact of luck.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
Firstly, I can't see any fair way of seeding this when you've got players coming who've spent the last 12 months playing in completely different competitions and under different organisations. If you can come up with a fair way of seeding it, fair play to you.
If the seedings are therefore arbitrary, and not based upon a meritocracy, then what's the point of having them?
Yes, with a blind draw you'll see your fair share of "unlucky" draws, but in my opinion that's preferable to stacking the deck with a seeding system which isn't fit for purpose.
You forget one crucial thing, that there are 2 x Q Schools and one doesn’t have as many players nor the talent. It should be one school for everyone if you want a fair open draw. So yes perhaps seeding isn’t the way to go but it should be looked at to try and improve it...
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:49 pm
by DavidB
A question for the stattos...
In the history of Q School, has a loser of a ‘tour card match’ (ie: the final match to win a card) ever not qualified through the OoM (not counting if they did win an outright card during the remaining days) ?
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:50 pm
by Ginge
How can you improve it if you dont seed it?
Increasing the format and it takes ages.
Shorten the format and you get more freal results.
Make it a group stage and it will take all night.
As for the answer to the last question: no idea. Will take a look. Guessing at worst it will have happened once on countback.
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:51 pm
by ChrisW
Gary Blades
Did anyone have him?
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:51 pm
by Rout
Am I on premod?
Started a new thread for the zero legs club and it said needed approving by a mod
Re: 2020 Q School
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:51 pm
by Zapp Brannigan
MrLil8 wrote:Kleermaker loses. Had 3 from 74 to break and win.
Almost certain through oom now anyway