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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Addicks Fan » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:32 pm

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Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:56 pm
A good idea but neither will happen, the qualifier should be tagged onto an existing event at the very least but I have no doubt this will happen anyway.
Name me an event happening between now and the World Trophy in the UK?

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:42 pm

Addicks Fan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:32 pm
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:56 pm
A good idea but neither will happen, the qualifier should be tagged onto an existing event at the very least but I have no doubt this will happen anyway.
Name me an event happening between now and the World Trophy in the UK?
Gold Cup weekend? BDO Youth Festival weekend? England Open weekend? Scottish Classic?

OK, only two actually run by the BDO and one is for the kids, but could be tagged on as a last resort. Time is running out though to sort one for Gold Cup weekend, that will be done and dusted 4 weeks today.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Zapp Brannigan » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:17 pm

nikkiboy wrote:
The Jolly Man wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:47 pm
Would be intersected to know what Eurosport currently know.

Wonder if there is truth in the rumour that they’ve dropped the BDO after one event.
Where has that rumour come from?
I’ve not seen that anywhere.

Seen the usual rumour that it’s not a 3 year contract it’s a event by event contract that Eurosport can renew up to the 3 years (like what it was rumours the c4 contract wash but not seen anything that it’s been dropped

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Case » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:20 pm

Ginge wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:42 pm
Addicks Fan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:32 pm
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:56 pm
A good idea but neither will happen, the qualifier should be tagged onto an existing event at the very least but I have no doubt this will happen anyway.
Name me an event happening between now and the World Trophy in the UK?
Gold Cup weekend? BDO Youth Festival weekend? England Open weekend? Scottish Classic?

OK, only two actually run by the BDO and one is for the kids, but could be tagged on as a last resort. Time is running out though to sort one for Gold Cup weekend, that will be done and dusted 4 weeks today.
That's a lot of knowledge for a overly questionmark-user.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:21 pm

OK, thank you for the input Stephanie.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by devosteve » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:56 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:17 pm
nikkiboy wrote:
The Jolly Man wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:47 pm
Would be intersected to know what Eurosport currently know.

Wonder if there is truth in the rumour that they’ve dropped the BDO after one event.
Where has that rumour come from?
I’ve not seen that anywhere.

Seen the usual rumour that it’s not a 3 year contract it’s a event by event contract that Eurosport can renew up to the 3 years (like what it was rumours the c4 contract wash but not seen anything that it’s been dropped
Where have you seen that rumour re event by.event?

and if it is true a little bit of spin there by des it would seem?
Whip it!

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:59 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:17 pm
nikkiboy wrote:
The Jolly Man wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:47 pm
Would be intersected to know what Eurosport currently know.

Wonder if there is truth in the rumour that they’ve dropped the BDO after one event.
Where has that rumour come from?
I’ve not seen that anywhere.

Seen the usual rumour that it’s not a 3 year contract it’s a event by event contract that Eurosport can renew up to the 3 years (like what it was rumours the c4 contract wash but not seen anything that it’s been dropped
Eurosport were quite happy to call it a three year deal on their own website

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/darts/world ... tory.shtml

Nowhere on there does it say "up to three years".

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by devosteve » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:01 pm

Ginge wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:59 pm
Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:17 pm
nikkiboy wrote:
The Jolly Man wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:47 pm
Would be intersected to know what Eurosport currently know.

Wonder if there is truth in the rumour that they’ve dropped the BDO after one event.
Where has that rumour come from?
I’ve not seen that anywhere.

Seen the usual rumour that it’s not a 3 year contract it’s a event by event contract that Eurosport can renew up to the 3 years (like what it was rumours the c4 contract wash but not seen anything that it’s been dropped
Eurosport were quite happy to call it a three year deal on their own website

https://www.eurosport.co.uk/darts/world ... tory.shtml

Nowhere on there does it say "up to three years".
That would seem to quench that rumour then re event by event renewal.
If they did do the BDO that would be massive. Can't see that though. Now if the wdt is a massive flop re crowd, who knows.
Whip it!

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by ChrisW » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:21 pm

An 8 month old press release quenching a new rumour there.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:24 pm

Come on now Chris, if I had typed the exact same words Zapp had posted you would be ripping them to shreds, and rightly so.

Unless every single party has lied about the details in every single press release about the deal, the only way Eurosport dont show the WDT is if the WDT doesnt happen (unlikely) or some other unspecified contract breach.

The whole idea of an "event by event" deal is absurd.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by clemy1989 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:36 pm

I actually don't think the "event by event" deal is so absurb. Infact i think it would be very shrewd from Eurosport. They would no all the in's and out's of the BDO and how their events have gone previously and so could quite easily have added a clause into the contract about some sort of get out. I also think the BDO were that desperate at the time of making the deal that they would of taken that chance to save the Lakeside.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:38 pm

clemy1989 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:36 pm
I actually don't think the "event by event" deal is so absurb. Infact i think it would be very shrewd from Eurosport. They would no all the in's and out's of the BDO and how their events have gone previously and so could quite easily have added a clause into the contract about some sort of get out. I also think the BDO were that desperate at the time of making the deal that they would of taken that chance to save the Lakeside.
I agree with all of that but the press release clearly says its a three year deal, and not "up to three years", or "event by event up to three years", or whatever. A break clause is totally different and all decent contracts will have those anyway.

Of course, everyone could have been lied to from the outset, but surely nobody would have done that :IIII: :IIII:

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by ChrisW » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:51 pm

All it needs is a simple clause that the contract can be cancelled by either party at any time.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:52 pm

ChrisW wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:51 pm
All it needs is a simple clause that the contract can be cancelled by either party at any time.
Which is totally different to negotiating an event by event deal in the first place.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by The Jolly Man » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:05 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:17 pm
nikkiboy wrote:
The Jolly Man wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:47 pm
Would be intersected to know what Eurosport currently know.

Wonder if there is truth in the rumour that they’ve dropped the BDO after one event.
Where has that rumour come from?
I’ve not seen that anywhere.

Seen the usual rumour that it’s not a 3 year contract it’s a event by event contract that Eurosport can renew up to the 3 years (like what it was rumours the c4 contract wash but not seen anything that it’s been dropped
Just heard it being mooted a couple of times. Nothing from a serious source. May explain the struggles of finding a sponsor and venue if they can’t guarantee tv exposure. Possibility Eurosport trying to keep it off main channels?

Whatever the issues it doesn’t bode well for Des or the BDO.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by ILAD » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:10 pm

Des has the sponsors on board, has since before he took the job, he’s just forgot who they are........

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by malcy93 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:46 pm

Eurosport do have a lot of other content and only 2 TV channels. May be a problem finding the available time slots especially at weekend. January when Lakeside is on is pretty dead for live sport outside the winter snow events Eurosport show but lots more going on rest of year.

They could be saying only on their Eurosport Player online streaming service which would then make the event dead for sponsorship as viewership on that would be minimal. Think they put some of the minor snooker events on there.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:47 pm

malcy93 wrote:Eurosport do have a lot of other content and only 2 TV channels. May be a problem finding the available time slots especially at weekend. January when Lakeside is on is pretty dead for live sport outside the winter snow events Eurosport show but lots more going on rest of year.

They could be saying only on their Eurosport Player online streaming service which would then make the event dead for sponsorship as viewership on that would be minimal. Think they put some of the minor snooker events on there.
Eurosport have the US Open tennis for a few years still dont they? The WDT clashes with the first week of it.
Tennis starts at 4pm each day.

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by trotter01 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:11 pm

Ginge wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:47 pm
malcy93 wrote:Eurosport do have a lot of other content and only 2 TV channels. May be a problem finding the available time slots especially at weekend. January when Lakeside is on is pretty dead for live sport outside the winter snow events Eurosport show but lots more going on rest of year.

They could be saying only on their Eurosport Player online streaming service which would then make the event dead for sponsorship as viewership on that would be minimal. Think they put some of the minor snooker events on there.
Eurosport have the US Open tennis for a few years still dont they? The WDT clashes with the first week of it.
Tennis starts at 4pm each day.
EURO sport don't have the US Open tennis any more.. That's purely on Amazon

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Re: 6th BDO World Darts Trophy 30 Aug - 1 Sep

Post by Ginge » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:19 pm

trotter01 wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:47 pm
malcy93 wrote:Eurosport do have a lot of other content and only 2 TV channels. May be a problem finding the available time slots especially at weekend. January when Lakeside is on is pretty dead for live sport outside the winter snow events Eurosport show but lots more going on rest of year.

They could be saying only on their Eurosport Player online streaming service which would then make the event dead for sponsorship as viewership on that would be minimal. Think they put some of the minor snooker events on there.
Eurosport have the US Open tennis for a few years still dont they? The WDT clashes with the first week of it.
Tennis starts at 4pm each day.
EURO sport don't have the US Open tennis any more.. That's purely on Amazon
Aha, fair enough. Probably little else on then to clash with it so no reason why they would dump it online only.

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