DavidOwen67 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:30 pm

ChrisW wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:29 pm

DavidOwen67 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:24 pm

1205 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:52 pm

Ginge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:10 pm Surely they know the order of the names of their female World Champion?

They're trying to be classy so put it the Japanese way with surname first.

(Except that it's not how we write names in English, so instead of being classy it looks either ignorant or pretentious.)

Also, that's how the Chinese do it, not the Japanese.

It's the same isn't it?
Least it was in the 20 odd years I've been dealing with Japan.

In Japan, yes. But we re-order and Anglicise the names, something we DON'T do with Chinese names.

Who is we? The Owen-san household?

Do we think lakeside to rescue again if there might help shift few tickets

foggs3355 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:10 pm Do we think lakeside to rescue again if there might help shift few tickets

Nah, Preston Guild Hall is my guess

So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

foggs3355 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:10 pm Do we think lakeside to rescue again if there might help shift few tickets

Will be some shithole up north I would imagine

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

Who do you expect them to invite instead?

BlueSpark wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:00 am

foggs3355 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:10 pm Do we think lakeside to rescue again if there might help shift few tickets

Will be some shithole up north I would imagine

Some leisure centre in Wigan you mean??

Ginge wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:53 am

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

Who do you expect them to invite instead?

Tennis players?

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

Players are fine, issue is no venue

ChrisW wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:04 am

Ginge wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:53 am

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

Who do you expect them to invite instead?

Tennis players?

Obviously invite the best players you have available. However to have less than half the field British when the British Darts Organisation is organising is poor. Then when a large chunk of the field are failed players trying to get into the PDC it’s not a good look when trying to brand the event to venues and sponsors in the UK.

That doesnt matter, a huge sponsor is on board apparently, despite being kept a secret for months.

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:45 am

ChrisW wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:04 am

Ginge wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:53 am

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

Who do you expect them to invite instead?

Tennis players?

Obviously invite the best players you have available. However to have less than half the field British when the British Darts Organisation is organising is poor. Then when a large chunk of the field are failed players trying to get into the PDC it’s not a good look when trying to brand the event to venues and sponsors in the UK.

They are the qualifiers though.. That's the deal that they have to deal with.. unless you invite MVG as a wildcard!
They could still promote that line up if a venue was set in stone.. but they have left it too late to announce a venue and therefore too late for attracting a decent crowd... looks like lots of freebies may be on offer which in itself will put people off buying them initially.

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:45 am

ChrisW wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:04 am

Ginge wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:53 am

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

Who do you expect them to invite instead?

Tennis players?

Obviously invite the best players you have available. However to have less than half the field British when the British Darts Organisation is organising is poor. Then when a large chunk of the field are failed players trying to get into the PDC it’s not a good look when trying to brand the event to venues and sponsors in the UK.

So what's your solution? Remove a foreign seed and replace him in the line up with someone like Doggy Dawson, just to get the number of British players up? And that will attract the sponsors how exactly?

Whether you like it or not, this line up pretty much represents the best of what the BDO have got to work with at the moment. And given that this is the result of stupendous levels of mismanagement over the last 2 decades, there's not going to be a quick fix.

Since when did it become important to have a 'world' event mostly represented by the host country?

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 10:45 am

ChrisW wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:04 am

Ginge wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:53 am

The Jolly Man wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am So of the 27 players named for the BDO event to date. 15 aren’t British, 2 are former PDC tour card holders and 7 failed to get through Q-School.

It’s not a great look to try and promote a British organisation to British companies when your trying to sell it as a organisation that’s bouncing back

Who do you expect them to invite instead?

Tennis players?

Obviously invite the best players you have available. However to have less than half the field British when the British Darts Organisation is organising is poor. Then when a large chunk of the field are failed players trying to get into the PDC it’s not a good look when trying to brand the event to venues and sponsors in the UK.

The BDO is the host and organizing organization of the majority of the top non-PDC tournaments.
For a combination of reasons, the top of the BDO is now Dutch heavy, and that's likely to continue.

1205 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 1:29 pm
The BDO is the host and organizing organization of the majority of the top non-PDC tournaments.
For a combination of reasons, the top of the BDO is now Dutch heavy, and that's likely to continue.

The problem is given the 'relaxation' of the qualifying criteria that Des brought in in a very short space of time the top of the BDO is going to be full of failed QS people.

So in effect as it stands at the moment the BDO & Lakeside etc will become some weird quasi Challenge Tour championships.

Thanks to Des he's now enabling the PDC to take over the BDO flagships by proxy

el_ringo wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 1:53 pm

1205 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 1:29 pm
The BDO is the host and organizing organization of the majority of the top non-PDC tournaments.
For a combination of reasons, the top of the BDO is now Dutch heavy, and that's likely to continue.

The problem is given the 'relaxation' of the qualifying criteria that Des brought in in a very short space of time the top of the BDO is going to be full of failed QS people.

So in effect as it stands at the moment the BDO & Lakeside etc will become some weird quasi Challenge Tour championships.

Thanks to Des he's now enabling the PDC to take over the BDO flagships by proxy

I'm not sure it'll happen that way.

The top Challenge Tour players get to play in Players Championships and get to enter qualifying for European Tour events. So I think that many of the "better failures" will only play PDC.

I think that it's the established players who've dropped hard (e.g. Hamilton, Newton, Caven) who're more likely to do the BDO, since they're not going to be competitive on the Challenge Tour, and they're looking to pick up form.

I think that the top of the BDO is more likely to be players who've never played PDC. Young talent, and players who're at a moderate level (especially Dutch players) who feel that the PDC Tour would be too much of a grind to be worth it. (A player struggling in the PDC might never get a stage game.)

Ringworm seething that his hallowed PDC stars are returning to the BDO there........

the dutch are the top of the bdo - harms and veestra are in the worlds top 10 players - but dont count out scotty dogg - he may not be on there level at the moment - but itll be different come lakey - thats where men are made - scotty loves lakey - as he said - its the wembley of darts - its where the best shine - harms and veestra have yet to shine on the stage - mitchell has -

as for the trophy - i think harms will win it - hes overdue a major -

robson

Still no news on the venue