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Re: Welsh Open

Post by ssjsa » Tue May 14, 2019 10:52 am

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Tue May 14, 2019 10:43 am
You cant really moan that they let any female to qualify Devo ffs, although it is a nonsense they will let a kid happily qualify through the table but not the one-off qualifier.
Ginge is right on this point.

For me if they are good enough to qualify, they are old enough.

However only allowing them to qualify through the table, given they do not have the same flexibility on travel due to school etc, smacks of going through the motions to me.

It is very easy to articulate there are no age restrictions, but the system in place directly discriminates against this.
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Re: Welsh Open

Post by Stranbougie » Tue May 14, 2019 11:04 am

ssjsa wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:52 am
Ginge wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:43 am
You cant really moan that they let any female to qualify Devo ffs, although it is a nonsense they will let a kid happily qualify through the table but not the one-off qualifier.
Ginge is right on this point.

For me if they are good enough to qualify, they are old enough.

However only allowing them to qualify through the table, given they do not have the same flexibility on travel due to school etc, smacks of going through the motions to me.

It is very easy to articulate there are no age restrictions, but the system in place directly discriminates against this.
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Re: Welsh Open

Post by McCleaner » Tue May 14, 2019 11:32 am

devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
The pdc are streets ahead of the bdo in most areas.

Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?

Just a thought: maybe the sponsors (betting firms) wouldn't want 'their' champ bring a 14yr old kid?
Because the BDO is a non-profit organisation that wants to provide darts for all. Everyone gets a chance. The PDC is for a certain type of player and is run to gain a profit. You can't really compare them.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by Ginge » Tue May 14, 2019 11:33 am

McCleaner wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:32 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?
Because the BDO is a non-profit organisation that wants to provide darts for all.
Fantastic logic :DDD:

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by 1205 » Tue May 14, 2019 11:43 am

Ginge wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:43 am
You cant really moan that they let any female to qualify Devo ffs, although it is a nonsense they will let a kid happily qualify through the table but not the one-off qualifier.
BTW, here's the clarification by the BDO last September :
https://www.bdodarts.com/index.php/item ... s-playoffs

(Yes, that Laura Turner, she works for the BDO.)

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by McCleaner » Tue May 14, 2019 11:43 am

Ginge wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:33 am
McCleaner wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:32 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?
Because the BDO is a non-profit organisation that wants to provide darts for all.
Fantastic logic :DDD:
The BDO is run to provide an outlet for everyone to play darts and any profit is put back into the game. Letting players of all ages into their World Championship lives up to that mission statement.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by Ginge » Tue May 14, 2019 11:49 am

McCleaner wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:33 am
McCleaner wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:32 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?
Because the BDO is a non-profit organisation that wants to provide darts for all.
Fantastic logic :DDD:
The BDO is run to provide an outlet for everyone to play darts and any profit is put back into the game. Letting players of all ages into their World Championship lives up to that mission statement.
....except through the qualifiers, which is the issue being debated. Keep up Robson, you frivelos prock.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by BlueSpark » Tue May 14, 2019 11:52 am

Its about time we introduced a registration method that weeds out twats like this.
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Re: Welsh Open

Post by McCleaner » Tue May 14, 2019 11:52 am

Ginge wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:49 am
McCleaner wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:33 am
McCleaner wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:32 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?
Because the BDO is a non-profit organisation that wants to provide darts for all.
Fantastic logic :DDD:
The BDO is run to provide an outlet for everyone to play darts and any profit is put back into the game. Letting players of all ages into their World Championship lives up to that mission statement.
....except through the qualifiers, which is the issue being debated. Keep up Robson, you frivelos prock.
Keep up fanboy, someone said it would upset betting companies to let youths play and win the BDO World Title. That doesn't matter to the BDO. They are run for the sport, not for profit.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by BlueSpark » Tue May 14, 2019 11:53 am

Ginge wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:33 am
McCleaner wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 11:32 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?
Because the BDO is a non-profit organisation that wants to provide darts for all.
Fantastic logic :DDD:
What more do you expect.
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Re: Welsh Open

Post by Ginge » Tue May 14, 2019 12:00 pm

He is arguing a totally different point to the one I am arguing. Amazing stuff.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by devosteve » Tue May 14, 2019 12:53 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:31 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
The pdc are streets ahead of the bdo in most areas.

Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?

Just a thought: maybe the sponsors (betting firms) wouldn't want 'their' champ bring a 14yr old kid?
Maybe not but the BDO possibly would

You moan when BDO have restrictions & you moan when they don’t
Firstly it's not moaning. It's debating. (remember we are not on real fanatics here. On this site you are allowed to disagree).
Secondly (as you well know) there are different type of restrictions. I didn't agree with the BDO withholding (or threatening to) prize money because someone wanted to switch.

The reason for my original point was that it was raised on real fanatics that it was a great idea that the kids could now win lakeside. I didn't say I disagreed. I said I was on the fence and questioned that opinion.
Next thing folk are taking it all personally. It's like you can't say "I think there should be age restrictions" without folk freaking out. yes a lot of good posters (players, officials etc) but it seems you have to 'tow the party line'.
Whip it!

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by oche balboa » Tue May 14, 2019 1:03 pm

Oh the woe is me retort
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Re: Welsh Open

Post by 1205 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:04 pm

devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 12:53 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:31 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
The pdc are streets ahead of the bdo in most areas.

Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?

Just a thought: maybe the sponsors (betting firms) wouldn't want 'their' champ bring a 14yr old kid?
Maybe not but the BDO possibly would

You moan when BDO have restrictions & you moan when they don’t
Firstly it's not moaning. It's debating. (remember we are not on real fanatics here. On this site you are allowed to disagree).
Secondly (as you well know) there are different type of restrictions. I didn't agree with the BDO withholding (or threatening to) prize money because someone wanted to switch.

The reason for my original point was that it was raised on real fanatics that it was a great idea that the kids could now win lakeside. I didn't say I disagreed. I said I was on the fence and questioned that opinion.
Next thing folk are taking it all personally. It's like you can't say "I think there should be age restrictions" without folk freaking out. yes a lot of good posters (players, officials etc) but it seems you have to 'tow the party line'.
The PDC age restriction is 16, which makes sense for an organization run for darts professionals. They have chaperone rules for under 18s.

BDO normal adult age is 18, which makes sense for something that at an amateur level has pubs at its heart.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by Moongoose McQueeen » Tue May 14, 2019 1:09 pm

Another great weekend.

You should come along next year.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by BlueSpark » Tue May 14, 2019 1:10 pm

Moongoose McQueeen wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:09 pm
Another great weekend.

You should come along next year.
Would have been there, family before darts at the moment.
Will I be seeing you Friday old friend?
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Re: Welsh Open

Post by DavidOwen67 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:13 pm

Moongoose McQueeen wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:09 pm
Another great weekend.

You should come along next year.
Payin on door?

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by McCleaner » Tue May 14, 2019 2:12 pm

1205 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:04 pm
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 12:53 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:31 am
devosteve wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:14 am
The pdc are streets ahead of the bdo in most areas.

Why have they got age restrictions if the idea to lift them is so good?

Just a thought: maybe the sponsors (betting firms) wouldn't want 'their' champ bring a 14yr old kid?
Maybe not but the BDO possibly would

You moan when BDO have restrictions & you moan when they don’t
Firstly it's not moaning. It's debating. (remember we are not on real fanatics here. On this site you are allowed to disagree).
Secondly (as you well know) there are different type of restrictions. I didn't agree with the BDO withholding (or threatening to) prize money because someone wanted to switch.

The reason for my original point was that it was raised on real fanatics that it was a great idea that the kids could now win lakeside. I didn't say I disagreed. I said I was on the fence and questioned that opinion.
Next thing folk are taking it all personally. It's like you can't say "I think there should be age restrictions" without folk freaking out. yes a lot of good posters (players, officials etc) but it seems you have to 'tow the party line'.
The PDC age restriction is 16, which makes sense for an organization run for darts professionals. They have chaperone rules for under 18s.

BDO normal adult age is 18, which makes sense for something that at an amateur level has pubs at its heart.
Troll comment about the BDO aside, I agree with this.

All darts is pub darts.

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by Ginge » Tue May 14, 2019 2:23 pm

Friverlos!

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Re: Welsh Open

Post by 1205 » Tue May 14, 2019 3:32 pm

McCleaner wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 2:12 pm
1205 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:04 pm

The PDC age restriction is 16, which makes sense for an organization run for darts professionals. They have chaperone rules for under 18s.

BDO normal adult age is 18, which makes sense for something that at an amateur level has pubs at its heart.
Troll comment about the BDO aside, I agree with this.

All darts is pub darts.
I wasn't trolling. BDO rules reflect the history of darts and the fact that it covers the amateur game.

PDC treats darts as a job, so the minimum age is the age at which people in the UK can leave full-time education.

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