You are probably right Ginge, but I still wouldn't be surprised if he asked!Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:16 am Oh and as an aside, if my sister (for want of an example) had booked good money for a weekend away on the coast with her three kids in August, and was told 10 weeks beforehand that the venue (I assume the big room at Selsey where they play the streamed EDO events is the main entertainment room?) was now being rented out to a bunch of darts players to play a darts tournament for a full three days, she would be spitting feathers.
Not everyone likes darts, you know. To even think its an option for the WDT is sheer lunacy.
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Also wouldnt surprised me if he also asked Lakeside, who will have weddings booked all August no doubt.Addicks Fan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:32 amYou are probably right Ginge, but I still wouldn't be surprised if he asked!Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:16 am Oh and as an aside, if my sister (for want of an example) had booked good money for a weekend away on the coast with her three kids in August, and was told 10 weeks beforehand that the venue (I assume the big room at Selsey where they play the streamed EDO events is the main entertainment room?) was now being rented out to a bunch of darts players to play a darts tournament for a full three days, she would be spitting feathers.
Not everyone likes darts, you know. To even think its an option for the WDT is sheer lunacy.
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If only Preston Guild Hall hadn't gone bust eh? His excuse is already there. Does anybody know if it has been 'rescued'?Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:04 amNo no no no he has all venues sorted and they will all have glitz and glamour, are you calling Des a liar?Addicks Fan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:59 am
1. Is Des/BDO desperate for a venue for the World Trophy? Yes
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We are merely guessing that Preston was the venue anyway. If it was, it would have been announced weeks ago surely.
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I believe yes but promoters need to renegotiate terms with the new owners.Addicks Fan wrote:If only Preston Guild Hall hadn't gone bust eh? His excuse is already there. Does anybody know if it has been 'rescued'?Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:04 amNo no no no he has all venues sorted and they will all have glitz and glamour, are you calling Des a liar?Addicks Fan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:59 am
1. Is Des/BDO desperate for a venue for the World Trophy? Yes
As I said before I presume the old prices to hire were uneconomic hence it going bust. New prices are probably much higher especially if someone else interested in the dates.
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It's also a safe bet that if the new owner has anything about him he will have had a look at what ticket sales were like last time the BDO held an event there.malcy93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:37 amI believe yes but promoters need to renegotiate terms with the new owners.Addicks Fan wrote:If only Preston Guild Hall hadn't gone bust eh? His excuse is already there. Does anybody know if it has been 'rescued'?Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:04 amNo no no no he has all venues sorted and they will all have glitz and glamour, are you calling Des a liar?Addicks Fan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:59 am
1. Is Des/BDO desperate for a venue for the World Trophy? Yes
As I said before I presume the old prices to hire were uneconomic hence it going bust. New prices are probably much higher especially if someone else interested in the dates.
Then watch the cost of room hire go up as they realise what a pittance they're going to take over the bar.
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I’m sure it will hit home soon that these events are just not of interest to the casual darts fan anymore.
At least, not enough to actually buy a ticket rather than watch a stream/low budget tv production.
They need to go back to square one.
At least, not enough to actually buy a ticket rather than watch a stream/low budget tv production.
They need to go back to square one.
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"So what did you do during the school holidays, little Tilly?"
"We went to Selsey, Miss! We had a lovely time! We saw Darryl Fitton fall off a hoverboard, someone who looked like a waiter dishing out slaps, and lots and lots of men drinking lots and lots of beer and being sick, Miss"
"We went to Selsey, Miss! We had a lovely time! We saw Darryl Fitton fall off a hoverboard, someone who looked like a waiter dishing out slaps, and lots and lots of men drinking lots and lots of beer and being sick, Miss"
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oh dear oh dear oh dear.Ginge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:52 pm TOURNAMENT VENUES
One of our most embarrassing issues is the sort of venue we choose, I’m looking at more upmarket and well-appointed venues with glitz and glamour in easily accessible areas of the Country, after all we are the BRITISH DARTS ORGANISATION and should try and lead by example, I have already negotiated several great venues to replace existing ones along with new competitions with high incentive sponsorship.
I'm not actually sure Des could make himself look more of a fool at the moment if he tried. If there are good reasons why deals have fallen through then he just needs to be honest (e.g. Preston, if it was booked, would have been fine and its not his fault it went bust)
but silence is deafening, it makes him look a liar - which I think he probably isnt it - but unless he starts to actually explain and communicate (which he also promised to do) then it just looks so bad.
I just can't see how the WDT can be saved now , wherever it is, ticket sales, on the last weekend of school holidays will be dire.
He can certainly still save face by sorting out the Masters. But surely to god not at Selsey. (Lakeside will be at Lakeside, I would put my mortgage on it).
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Masters at Selsey at least makes more sense - its in October but saying that, it might even be in half term. Cant imagine a huge demand to stay there at that time of year though!Skewball wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:20 pmoh dear oh dear oh dear.Ginge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:52 pm TOURNAMENT VENUES
One of our most embarrassing issues is the sort of venue we choose, I’m looking at more upmarket and well-appointed venues with glitz and glamour in easily accessible areas of the Country, after all we are the BRITISH DARTS ORGANISATION and should try and lead by example, I have already negotiated several great venues to replace existing ones along with new competitions with high incentive sponsorship.
I'm not actually sure Des could make himself look more of a fool at the moment if he tried. If there are good reasons why deals have fallen through then he just needs to be honest (e.g. Preston, if it was booked, would have been fine and its not his fault it went bust)
but silence is deafening, it makes him look a liar - which I think he probably isnt it - but unless he starts to actually explain and communicate (which he also promised to do) then it just looks so bad.
I just can't see how the WDT can be saved now , wherever it is, ticket sales, on the last weekend of school holidays will be dire.
He can certainly still save face by sorting out the Masters. But surely to god not at Selsey. (Lakeside will be at Lakeside, I would put my mortgage on it).
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it might make sense from a desperation point of view but as for 'Glamour' 'Glitz' 'easily-accessible' etc then it's an embarrassment and he will be a laughing stock if its held there.Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:27 pmMasters at Selsey at least makes more sense - its in October but saying that, it might even be in half term. Cant imagine a huge demand to stay there at that time of year though!Skewball wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:20 pmoh dear oh dear oh dear.Ginge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:52 pm TOURNAMENT VENUES
One of our most embarrassing issues is the sort of venue we choose, I’m looking at more upmarket and well-appointed venues with glitz and glamour in easily accessible areas of the Country, after all we are the BRITISH DARTS ORGANISATION and should try and lead by example, I have already negotiated several great venues to replace existing ones along with new competitions with high incentive sponsorship.
I'm not actually sure Des could make himself look more of a fool at the moment if he tried. If there are good reasons why deals have fallen through then he just needs to be honest (e.g. Preston, if it was booked, would have been fine and its not his fault it went bust)
but silence is deafening, it makes him look a liar - which I think he probably isnt it - but unless he starts to actually explain and communicate (which he also promised to do) then it just looks so bad.
I just can't see how the WDT can be saved now , wherever it is, ticket sales, on the last weekend of school holidays will be dire.
He can certainly still save face by sorting out the Masters. But surely to god not at Selsey. (Lakeside will be at Lakeside, I would put my mortgage on it).
and yes, it is Half Term
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Ha, just gets better and better
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You tell em ginge, a holiday camp is no place for a darts tournament......Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:16 am Oh and as an aside, if my sister (for want of an example) had booked good money for a weekend away on the coast with her three kids in August, and was told 10 weeks beforehand that the venue (I assume the big room at Selsey where they play the streamed EDO events is the main entertainment room?) was now being rented out to a bunch of darts players to play a darts tournament for a full three days, she would be spitting feathers.
Not everyone likes darts, you know. To even think its an option for the WDT is sheer lunacy.
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Well done for totally ignoring everything I said up to this point. Out of season = fine. Organised a year or so in advance so that normal families cant book the same weekend and get caught in the crossfire of dart players throwing up everywhere = fine.nikkiboy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:49 pmYou tell em ginge, a holiday camp is no place for a darts tournament......Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:16 am Oh and as an aside, if my sister (for want of an example) had booked good money for a weekend away on the coast with her three kids in August, and was told 10 weeks beforehand that the venue (I assume the big room at Selsey where they play the streamed EDO events is the main entertainment room?) was now being rented out to a bunch of darts players to play a darts tournament for a full three days, she would be spitting feathers.
Not everyone likes darts, you know. To even think its an option for the WDT is sheer lunacy.
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Dangerous that projectile vomit.Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:53 pmWell done for totally ignoring everything I said up to this point. Out of season = fine. Organised a year or so in advance so that normal families cant book the same weekend and get caught in the crossfire of dart players throwing up everywhere = fine.nikkiboy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:49 pmYou tell em ginge, a holiday camp is no place for a darts tournament......Ginge wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:16 am Oh and as an aside, if my sister (for want of an example) had booked good money for a weekend away on the coast with her three kids in August, and was told 10 weeks beforehand that the venue (I assume the big room at Selsey where they play the streamed EDO events is the main entertainment room?) was now being rented out to a bunch of darts players to play a darts tournament for a full three days, she would be spitting feathers.
Not everyone likes darts, you know. To even think its an option for the WDT is sheer lunacy.
You can have somebody's eye out.
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I wonder if you can get holiday insurance for it?
Or losing your deposit for your nespresso machine.
Or losing your deposit for your nespresso machine.
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Chris, tell us where you are going on holiday mate, and the week before you arrive I will arrange for the hotel you are staying in to play host to the European Shit and Sp*nk Fetish Weekender.
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Actually you would probably enjoy that. Will have to think of something else.
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