Input/Gravity Media (whatever they are called) dont sound very DutchSkewball wrote:That's exactly what has happened with the Dutch Conpany .el_ringo wrote:It might well be a case of whom ever will now do it for them wants the money up front and the BDO don;t have the cash to pay them
Yes, Jacklin has made mistakes. Some terrible mistakes, in fact.Lowland Bloke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:16 pmHas nothing to do we laughing at their misfortune. It has everything to do with their acting. The draw with fake names. Proved all last 17 entries at the ladies where no shows in game... Countries have to bring on their players for the Masters. In Holland we don't have anyone called Petra Tane playing darts anywhere. Some other players dito in their suggested countries. Asking top 16 players what to do with draw done? Not done, you have to apply the rules which should be written in stone. Changing rules during a season? Foxtrot Otto. They are a spitting iomage of theirselves.Wazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:56 pmExcuse me, I never claimed that Des is going to turn it around. I don't know whether he will or won'tWazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:24 am
Work doesn't stop because you are on holiday. Welcome to the year 2019 where emails and mobile phones exist. I am just saying that Jacklin inherited a situation that anyone would struggle to handle.
I'm not defending the BDO or its current administration as such. I just don't understand why so many on this board, and other darts exchanges, take so much joy in the BDO's struggles. It's more than a bit nasty and the BDO folding would not help anyone, Still it takes all sorts to make the world.
I don't expect anyone to bury their heads in the sand either. All I said was that the negativity towards the BDO, which usually involves laughing at their misfortune, does nothing to help.
Countries and the WDf finally act and react the way they should have done before.
Either that or the BDO have no one to film it.Wazza180 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:53 am I txt messaged a few people last night. They have heard nothing about Eurosport dropping the BDO World Championship. I am not saying that Oche Balboa is telling fibs, yet I suspect he's only been told half the story. There is no reason for Eurosport to not broadcast the BDO World Championship. The only way it gets cancelled is if the entire event is cancelled, which is unlikely to happen at this stage.
Think a bit please.
Just watch Eurosport on a weekend, they are taking any internet feed they can find to fill their boots. Even their snooker feed at times for smaller events is just silence 1 camera set up.trotter01 wrote:I'm sure it will be on but Eurosport would need a standards guarantee surely... They are a major TV channel with Discovery ownership and their production standards are higher than they used to be.. and I'm sure the contract can be broken if standards cannot be met
I still think it will be on there but you never know
Although it is the topic about ticket sales, I wasn't referring to the sale itself. Hope venue will get loaded, but with the ridiculous prices I doubt it.Wazza180 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:45 amYes, Jacklin has made mistakes. Some terrible mistakes, in fact.Lowland Bloke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:16 pmHas nothing to do we laughing at their misfortune. It has everything to do with their acting. The draw with fake names. Proved all last 17 entries at the ladies where no shows in game... Countries have to bring on their players for the Masters. In Holland we don't have anyone called Petra Tane playing darts anywhere. Some other players dito in their suggested countries. Asking top 16 players what to do with draw done? Not done, you have to apply the rules which should be written in stone. Changing rules during a season? Foxtrot Otto. They are a spitting iomage of theirselves.Wazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:56 pmExcuse me, I never claimed that Des is going to turn it around. I don't know whether he will or won'tWazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:24 am
Work doesn't stop because you are on holiday. Welcome to the year 2019 where emails and mobile phones exist. I am just saying that Jacklin inherited a situation that anyone would struggle to handle.
I'm not defending the BDO or its current administration as such. I just don't understand why so many on this board, and other darts exchanges, take so much joy in the BDO's struggles. It's more than a bit nasty and the BDO folding would not help anyone, Still it takes all sorts to make the world.
I don't expect anyone to bury their heads in the sand either. All I said was that the negativity towards the BDO, which usually involves laughing at their misfortune, does nothing to help.
Countries and the WDf finally act and react the way they should have done before.
Still, let's be honest there are many who have the knives out for the BDO organisation. What other sport has fans ringing up venues asking for ticket sales? You don't get Liverpool fans ringing up Old Trafford asking how many tickets Man Utd have sold for a FA Cup tie.
I am just saying that the fan negativity doesn't help the game. It spreads throughout social media and puts people off. I guess the BDO administration are to blame in the end but many of the fans do not help.
Time for another update a week on? Maybe ring the venue this time to annoy RobsonAddicks Fan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:47 pm Ok - here's the update for this week - incidentally, is anyone else going to the BDO wake in January, or is it just me?
Seats Sold % Sold Sat All Day 1617 391 24% £24,610.00 Sun All Day 1617 148 9% £6,864.00 Mon Aft 1617 74 5% £1,934.50 Eve 1617 67 4% £2,593.00 Tue Aft 1617 39 2% £1,080.50 Eve 1617 47 3% £1,366.00 Wed Aft 1617 60 4% £1,563.50 Eve 1617 71 4% £2,701.60 Thur Aft 1617 79 5% £1,961.00 Eve 1617 124 8% £5,474.00 Fri Aft 1617 251 16% £7,033.50 Eve 1617 292 18% £14,064.00 Sat All Day 1617 389 24% £27,368.00 Sun All Day 1617 194 12% £17,820.00 All Week 1 £831.50 1st Weekend 50 £7,390.00 Last 4 Days 4 £1,430.92 Total 22638 2226 10% £126,086.02
You can't build Rome with sticlebricks and UHU.Wazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:45 pmRome wasn't built in a day. It's going to take years of investment and marketing to build an audience at the O2. If the BDO are able to survive that long, which no one on here knows whether they will be able or not, then Des' decision may eventually pay off.Buzz Fledderjohn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:35 pmOkay, let's pretend for a moment you're being on the level here.Wazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:47 amNo, I agree that the World Championship should not have been moved from Lakeside this season.TheVillan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:41 amIf the situation was that dire, then why was the decision made to move away from a secure, if not exactly inspired, position at the Lakeside?Wazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:24 am
Work doesn't stop because you are on holiday. Welcome to the year 2019 where emails and mobile phones exist. I am just saying that Jacklin inherited a situation that anyone would struggle to handle.
I'm not defending the BDO or its current administration as such. I just don't understand why so many on this board, and other darts exchanges, take so much joy in the BDO's struggles. It's more than a bit nasty and the BDO folding would not help anyone, Still it takes all sorts to make the world.
Business genius to have loads of things that need resolution to then choose to add to the list...
Still, the previous administration should have made the move 3 or 4 years earlier. Had they done that they could have built up an audience at a new and more modern location and none of this would be a problem now. Some of the players have said all this in private.
I'm just saying that it is easy to be critical of Jacklin and the BDO from our POV. We don't know the situation and we don't know what is around the corner. I only really took issue with some posters claiming that ticket sales were not going to pick up, when I know that they will given what some of the players have told me. That is all.
Let's say ticket sales do indeed pick up over the next couple of weeks as all the players' friends and families put their hands in their pockets.
Explain how this is going to be of any help for the BDO going forward.
The BDO have moved all their so-called majors to new venues (let's not waste time arguing whether it was right to do so, or should have been done earlier, because it's happened and this is what they're dealing with), they've got a multi-year broadcast contract with a broadcaster who has to be kept happy with the product on offer, you've got relatively large prize funds to stump up, and no sponsor to pay for any of it.
If literally the only silver lining you can find in all this is "once the players' nearest and dearest buy a few tickets, ticket uptake will be above 10% of capacity" then it's probably fair to say the game's up.
I hope it does. Many hope it doesn't. We will see what happens.
Hi Robson.Wazza180 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:53 am I txt messaged a few people last night. They have heard nothing about Eurosport dropping the BDO World Championship. I am not saying that Oche Balboa is telling fibs, yet I suspect he's only been told half the story. There is no reason for Eurosport to not broadcast the BDO World Championship. The only way it gets cancelled is if the entire event is cancelled, which is unlikely to happen at this stage.
Think a bit please.
