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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by 1205 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:26 pm

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There’s a narrative out there that the Sherrock phenomena just sort of dropped into the lap of the PDC and they ran with it. This ignores the fact that they planted seed of this by opening up the World Championship to women. Some might call it reaping what you sow (in a positive way).
They opened up the World Championship, and then reinforced it with 2 places for women in the GSoD.

That was 11.5k and TV exposure for Ashton and Suzuki from the PDC in the 2018-2019 season.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by oche balboa » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:40 pm

devosteve wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:16 am
Lead story on the BBC 1 sports news this morning.

apparently massive interest around the world.

Bdo could have had a bit of this!
How could they Devo?
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by devosteve » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:52 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:40 pm
devosteve wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:16 am
Lead story on the BBC 1 sports news this morning.

apparently massive interest around the world.

Bdo could have had a bit of this!
How could they Devo?
Until recently they had a monopoly on ladies darts. And done zilch with it re promotion.
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by oche balboa » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:04 pm

devosteve wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:52 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:40 pm
devosteve wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:16 am
Lead story on the BBC 1 sports news this morning.

apparently massive interest around the world.

Bdo could have had a bit of this!
How could they Devo?
Until recently they had a monopoly on ladies darts. And done zilch with it re promotion.
What could they have done about this that would have stopped the PDC?
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by skinnydookie » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:01 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:04 pm

What could they have done about this that would have stopped the PDC?
They could have allowed a lady in the BDO “men’s” (or whatever they have to call it) championship therefore if/when the PDC did it there would be less of an impact as it would have been done before.

Tricky granted, because of the ladies champs. Maybe allow the lady to play both? In tennis players often compete in singles and doubles. Tricky with scheduling but not impossible.

Missed the boat now.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by RIPLionheart » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:49 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:40 pm
devosteve wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:16 am
Lead story on the BBC 1 sports news this morning.

apparently massive interest around the world.

Bdo could have had a bit of this!
How could they Devo?
The BDO spent years crowing about the women’s game, while the women called for better prize money. At the same time both the players and the organisation clung like limpets to the travel club system which enabled some exceedingly inferior players to pollute the TV product Lakeside after Lakeside. The women wanted to be treated like professionals but didn’t want to make the necessary organisational changes required - i.e. cull the dross and focus on the elite players . Having the likes of Paula clogging the tournament with sub 70 averages made the event look terrible. Last 16 matches generally painful watching.
And therein lies the rub - Trina, Paula et al didn’t really want to advance the women’s game. They wanted to maintain their cosy cartel with an annual TV appearance as some kind of grotesque reward to sub standard players for attending jolly coach holiday tours together masquerading as tournaments all over Europe.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by RIPLionheart » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:50 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:40 pm
devosteve wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:16 am
Lead story on the BBC 1 sports news this morning.

apparently massive interest around the world.

Bdo could have had a bit of this!
How could they Devo?
The BDO spent years crowing about the women’s game, while the women called for better prize money. At the same time both the players and the organisation clung like limpets to the travel club system which enabled some exceedingly inferior players to pollute the TV product Lakeside after Lakeside. The women wanted to be treated like professionals but didn’t want to make the necessary organisational changes required - i.e. cull the dross and focus on the elite players . Having the likes of Paula clogging the tournament with sub 70 averages made the event look terrible. Last 16 matches generally painful watching.
And therein lies the rub - Trina, Paula et al didn’t really want to advance the women’s game. They wanted to maintain their cosy cartel with an annual TV appearance as some kind of grotesque reward to sub standard players for attending jolly coach holiday tours together masquerading as tournaments all over Europe.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by ChrisW » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:00 am

skinnydookie wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:01 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:04 pm

What could they have done about this that would have stopped the PDC?
They could have allowed a lady in the BDO “men’s” (or whatever they have to call it) championship therefore if/when the PDC did it there would be less of an impact as it would have been done before.

Tricky granted, because of the ladies champs. Maybe allow the lady to play both? In tennis players often compete in singles and doubles. Tricky with scheduling but not impossible.

Missed the boat now.
The amateur system has had men playing women for decades. Just not on tv.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by Moongoose McQueeen » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:27 am

fek the crowd
devosteve wrote:
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Long live the BDO. Long live proper darts. Long live the official body of darts. And long live the BDO die hards who defend the BDO on social media.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by phil davies » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:45 am

ChrisW wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:00 am
skinnydookie wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:01 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:04 pm

What could they have done about this that would have stopped the PDC?
They could have allowed a lady in the BDO “men’s” (or whatever they have to call it) championship therefore if/when the PDC did it there would be less of an impact as it would have been done before.

Tricky granted, because of the ladies champs. Maybe allow the lady to play both? In tennis players often compete in singles and doubles. Tricky with scheduling but not impossible.

Missed the boat now.
The amateur system has had men playing women for decades. Just not on tv.
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by ILAD » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:21 pm

Des Jacklin: ‘People say the BDO can’t compete with the PDC, but that is the biggest load of crap in the world’

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by Wazza180 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:31 pm

Moongoose McQueeen wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:27 am
fek the crowd
If the BDO crowds controlled the result of games like the Ally Pally and PL crowds do, we would never hear the last of it.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by phil davies » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:39 pm

ILAD wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:21 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/51510447
Someone better take her WSOD places away from her then as her would never be in if she was a bloke.
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by Black Velvet » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:11 am

Come again?

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by DavidOwen67 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:39 pm

RIPLionheart wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:49 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:40 pm
devosteve wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:16 am
Lead story on the BBC 1 sports news this morning.

apparently massive interest around the world.

Bdo could have had a bit of this!
How could they Devo?
The BDO spent years crowing about the women’s game, while the women called for better prize money. At the same time both the players and the organisation clung like limpets to the travel club system which enabled some exceedingly inferior players to pollute the TV product Lakeside after Lakeside. The women wanted to be treated like professionals but didn’t want to make the necessary organisational changes required - i.e. cull the dross and focus on the elite players . Having the likes of Paula clogging the tournament with sub 70 averages made the event look terrible. Last 16 matches generally painful watching.
And therein lies the rub - Trina, Paula et al didn’t really want to advance the women’s game. They wanted to maintain their cosy cartel with an annual TV appearance as some kind of grotesque reward to sub standard players for attending jolly coach holiday tours together masquerading as tournaments all over Europe.
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by maninasuitcase » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:32 am

Well done Fallon. I don't think the crowd were particularly hostile. Durrant is a well known bad loser. In the post match interview I thought he had soiled himself.
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by Black Velvet » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:35 am

Durrant isn’t a bad loser at all. Odd thing to make up.

Edit: Ah, just looked at your post history.
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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by NvH » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:14 pm

Duzza was VERY sporting considering how the crowd were. I think he's resigned to the fact that if he wants to play PDC and make proper money (and be a cross-code champion), this is the kinda thing he has to put up with from time to time. But I've never seen him moan after a defeat.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by DavidOwen67 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:03 pm

NvH wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:14 pm
Duzza was VERY sporting considering how the crowd were. I think he's resigned to the fact that if he wants to play PDC and make proper money (and be a cross-code champion), this is the kinda thing he has to put up with from time to time. But I've never seen him moan after a defeat.
Correct. Wears his heart on his sleeve but always gracious in defeat.

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Re: Fallon Sherrock

Post by 1205 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:17 pm

NvH wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:14 pm
Duzza was VERY sporting considering how the crowd were. I think he's resigned to the fact that if he wants to play PDC and make proper money (and be a cross-code champion), this is the kinda thing he has to put up with from time to time. But I've never seen him moan after a defeat.
That crowd was nothing compared to the World Championship crowds.
The boos were just a wall of noise, without all the whistling and timing of the World Championship.
It was like the crowd was playing a part, rather than being committed.

Durrant just seems to be a nice person. If he isn't, he's very good at hiding it.

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