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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by masticman » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:21 pm

devosteve wrote:
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But the board told folk they didn't have the money mentioned in the contracts.

thus fallon walked. And the rest still played not knowing the new amount. So I would think they have no legal standing.
Correct. Tbh I can't see y the other players didn't walk as well. If they knew there was no money in the bank to pay prize money

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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by ssjsa » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:39 pm

Ginge wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:20 pm
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Dannyboy wrote:
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They're not going to get paid are they?

Just to throw something out there - if the company is put into administration / liquidated, what legs do the players have to stand on? Their contracts (to my knowledge) do not have £ amounts entered... so how can any player claim in an insolvency court that monies are owed to them?
Short answer - they can't (providing the contracts are in Des's favour as you state).
They had amounts in them, he is talking cobblers in that regard.
Yes he is. Regardless of the letter sent by Des advising of the prize money no longer being as per the signed contract, said letter has no standing unless new contract was signed. The BDO are in breach of contract, however with no pot to piss in, suing them would be a total waste of time.
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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by nikkiboy » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:42 pm

ssjsa wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:39 pm
Ginge wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:20 pm
Murphio wrote:
Dannyboy wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:14 pm
They're not going to get paid are they?

Just to throw something out there - if the company is put into administration / liquidated, what legs do the players have to stand on? Their contracts (to my knowledge) do not have £ amounts entered... so how can any player claim in an insolvency court that monies are owed to them?
Short answer - they can't (providing the contracts are in Des's favour as you state).
They had amounts in them, he is talking cobblers in that regard.
Yes he is. Regardless of the letter sent by Des advising of the prize money no longer being as per the signed contract, said letter has no standing unless new contract was signed. The BDO are in breach of contract, however with no pot to piss in, suing them would be a total waste of time.
Not if you sue them first & get a charge on the assets, you'll get your money even if you have to send in the sheriffs!
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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by ssjsa » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:47 pm

nikkiboy wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:42 pm
ssjsa wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:39 pm
Ginge wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:20 pm
Murphio wrote:
Dannyboy wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:14 pm
They're not going to get paid are they?

Just to throw something out there - if the company is put into administration / liquidated, what legs do the players have to stand on? Their contracts (to my knowledge) do not have £ amounts entered... so how can any player claim in an insolvency court that monies are owed to them?
Short answer - they can't (providing the contracts are in Des's favour as you state).
They had amounts in them, he is talking cobblers in that regard.
Yes he is. Regardless of the letter sent by Des advising of the prize money no longer being as per the signed contract, said letter has no standing unless new contract was signed. The BDO are in breach of contract, however with no pot to piss in, suing them would be a total waste of time.
Not if you sue them first & get a charge on the assets, you'll get your money even if you have to send in the sheriffs!
What assets do the Board have to be poinded.
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Post by nikkiboy » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:56 pm

There's a truck, stage sets, boards etc.
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Post by craigmc » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:58 pm

Black Velvet wrote:
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craigmc wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:42 am
Wazza180 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:10 am
How much the players earn is of zero interest to me. Why? Because I'm not a top darts player or his agent. Whether a darts organisation calls their world championship a professional championship is also irrelevant really. Even if I rather they didn't.

Hypothetically I want a darts organisation to have half a dozen comps on a year with a combination of players in it. A good mix of tournies with their own identity, but with large but respectful audiences. A governing body who puts ethics and sport above money and a non profit one at that. And one who is no ashamed of the roots of the game.

I can't be clearer than that.
Your posts,combined with really poor darts have made this week a real chore. Bog off into oblivion with your BDO.
Are you crying?
Wasn't funny on df. Another one for ignore

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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Wazza180 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:35 pm

DavidOwen67 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:42 am
Wazza180 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:51 am
Dannyboy wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:40 am
Wazza180 wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:35 pm
The BDO is still marketable in the right hands. It is an alternative to the PDC both for the players and viewers. Some players enjoy the BDO lifestyle. Some ladies need a proper ladies tour. Some semi-pros do not want to spend their free time playing darts and see darts as more of a hobby. Some viewers want something different to MVG vs Wright.

Need I remind you all that the final Lakeside on BBC drew better viewing figures than the PDC tournament that replaced it. There is an audience for the BDO. It's just needs the right people at the helm and the procedure to be followed through with properly.

I am not saying that the BDO can compete with the PDC. Hearn has won the battle for the professional side of the game and will make money for years to come. But there is a place for the BDO, even in these times where darts in on the decline.
The BDO Lifestyle - how dare a thing like money affect Scott Mitchell’s drinking weekends?
I mean that some players like to work full time and play as a hobby. Same as those who play county. Those who take this route tend to be very happy. After all, it's a pub game. It isn't really meant to be a professional sport.
I'm sure Mitchell prefers 80 hour weeks starting at 5am knee-deep in shit to playing darts for a living full-time.

I mean, who wouldn't?
Some people enjoy their job.

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Post by devosteve » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 pm

Seriously farming is in the blood for some folk.
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Post by oche balboa » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:48 pm

devosteve wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 pm
Seriously farming is in the blood for some folk.
We need Farmers more then Professional Darts Players
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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by devosteve » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:50 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:48 pm
devosteve wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 pm
Seriously farming is in the blood for some folk.
We need Farmers more then Professional Darts Players
We do.

But my point is some folk just love being a farmer. Maybe Mitchell is one of them.
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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by oche balboa » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:54 pm

devosteve wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:50 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:48 pm
devosteve wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 pm
Seriously farming is in the blood for some folk.
We need Farmers more then Professional Darts Players
We do.

But my point is some folk just love being a farmer. Maybe Mitchell is one of them.
He going to Q School. Lets see how he does
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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Astonvilla » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:59 pm

so what was the prize in the end? I missed the end of it.

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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Wazza180 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:23 am

devosteve wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:50 pm
oche balboa wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:48 pm
devosteve wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 pm
Seriously farming is in the blood for some folk.
We need Farmers more then Professional Darts Players
We do.

But my point is some folk just love being a farmer. Maybe Mitchell is one of them.
Exactly.

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Post by Thehateful180 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:27 am

We have now reached peak Fun Guy. The idea that money in the amateur game is a bad thing. I'm sure Wayne Warren will be happy to have won the event, but you'd have to have rocks in your head not to think he'll be disappointed that a comp that was worth 100 grand 12 months ago will net him 23 grand if he's lucky.
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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Ginge » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:32 am

Thehateful180 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:27 am
We have now reached peak Fun Guy. The ideanthat money in the amateur game is a bad thing. I'm sure Wayne Warren will be happy to have won the event, but you'd have to have rocks in your head not to think he'll be disappointed that a comp that was worth 100 grand 12 months ago will net him 23 grand if he's lucky.
Durrant probably cant believe his luck. Raped the event for 3 x £100k before the sh1t hit the fan and he bailed.

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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Wazza180 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:04 am

If the BDO folds it will change the face of the game overnight. Millions play under the bdo banner currently. They are playing under the titanic pyramid system that is the lakeside world professional darts championship. That championship is directly tied to the bdo. You take it away and things to start to unravel a bit.

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Post by Skewball » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:08 am

Wazza180 wrote:If the BDO folds it will change the face of the game overnight. Millions play under the bdo banner currently. They are playing under the titanic pyramid system that is the lakeside world professional darts championship. That championship is directly tied to the bdo. You take it away and things to start to unravel a bit.
What a muppet. You are either trolling or clueless how Darts actually runs at grass roots level in this country.
Your looking a fool at the moment but look potentially like a good contributor. Sort yourself out.

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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Thehateful180 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:19 am

Could Des not offer to pay off the debts with "prestige"? From what I have been reading on here this morning, that's more valuable than money.

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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Wazza180 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:21 am

Skewball wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:08 am
Wazza180 wrote:If the BDO folds it will change the face of the game overnight. Millions play under the bdo banner currently. They are playing under the titanic pyramid system that is the lakeside world professional darts championship. That championship is directly tied to the bdo. You take it away and things to start to unravel a bit.
What a muppet. You are either trolling or clueless how Darts actually runs at grass roots level in this country.
Your looking a fool at the moment but look potentially like a good contributor. Sort yourself out.
I'm entitled to my opinion. I'm sorry if it offends you. I'm not going to pretend I think differently to please you or others.

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Re: BDO not paying its bills?

Post by Skewball » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:55 am

Wazza180 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:21 am
Skewball wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:08 am
Wazza180 wrote:If the BDO folds it will change the face of the game overnight. Millions play under the bdo banner currently. They are playing under the titanic pyramid system that is the lakeside world professional darts championship. That championship is directly tied to the bdo. You take it away and things to start to unravel a bit.
What a muppet. You are either trolling or clueless how Darts actually runs at grass roots level in this country.
Your looking a fool at the moment but look potentially like a good contributor. Sort yourself out.
I'm entitled to my opinion. I'm sorry if it offends you. I'm not going to pretend I think differently to please you or others.
it doesn't offend me, very little does so don't worry, no need to apologise :)

Your opinion about millions playing under the 'BDO banner' is just plain wrong... 'sorry''

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