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Youth problem

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:31 pm
by Wazza180
Is it me or is the lack of promising youth players in the PDC a bit concerning?

Players who were tipped for topness but haven't delivered?

James Hubbard - Qualified for several major comps around 2011-2013. Now without a tour card.
Keegan Brown - Barely top 32,
RJR - Has been tailing off for years in terms of results.
Max Hopp - Qualifies for all the TV events but looks pretty ordinary most of the time.
Dimitri Van den Bergh - Very average off TV.
Luke Humphries - Only turns up at the World Championship.

Smith, Dobey and Aspinall will all turn 30 soon so they don't count.

Would you be concerned at this if you ran the Development tour?

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:32 pm
by ILAD
Yawn

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:33 pm
by trotter01
Wazza180 wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:31 pm Is it me or is the lack of promising youth players in the PDC a bit concerning?

Players who were tipped for topness but haven't delivered?

James Hubbard - Qualified for several major comps around 2011-2013. Now without a tour card.
Keegan Brown - Barely top 32,
RJR - Has been tailing off for years in terms of results.
Max Hopp - Qualifies for all the TV events but looks pretty ordinary most of the time.
Dimitri Van den Bergh - Very average off TV.
Luke Humphries - Only turns up at the World Championship.

Smith, Dobey and Aspinall will all turn 30 soon so they don't count.

Would you be concerned at this if you ran the Development tour?
No... Any more?

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:45 pm
by The Crusader
My last response to this fraggle, fed up now.

CFUK FOF

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:27 pm
by Black Velvet
The Crusader wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:45 pm My last response to this fraggle, fed up now.

CFUK FOF
Are you crying again? You seem very sensitive.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:34 am
by Wazza180
Let's look at it this way.

Klaasen won the world title at 21. With a field that included the likes of Barney, G Anderson, King, Adams, Whitlock, Hankey, O'shea etc. . .
MVG the masters at 17
Bunting was winning titles in his teens and 20s and made it into the PDC top 16.

Plenty of examples of young players winning big titles at a young age.

Players do get better as they get more experience of course, but there doesn't look to be anyone to get excited about at all at the moment.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:35 am
by Wazza180
I'm not interested in personal attacks just because you disagree with my opinion on darts.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:53 am
by NvH
Wazza180 wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:34 am Let's look at it this way.

Klaasen won the world title at 21. With a field that included the likes of Barney, G Anderson, King, Adams, Whitlock, Hankey, O'shea etc. . .
MVG the masters at 17
Bunting was winning titles in his teens and 20s and made it into the PDC top 16.

Plenty of examples of young players winning big titles at a young age.

Players do get better as they get more experience of course, but there doesn't look to be anyone for Tony Eccles to get excited about at all at the moment.
Crikey! :IIII:

I haven't really looked at the ages of all the players but I don't think it's that concerning. If Leighton Bennett is anywhere near as good as he thinks he is, then he'll end up in the PDC in a few years. Even you must see that the PDC is the only realistic option for a top player nowadays.

MvG is the only guy to win a major as a teenager, isn't he? It's extremely rare.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:00 am
by Gruntface
It's most certainly a concern when the shelf life of a top quality darts player is 5-6 years tops.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:25 am
by Murphio
This again.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:34 am
by Deleted User
Murphio wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:25 amThis again.
I know. List the ones who failed and ignore the ones who've succeeded because they're "too old"

Another piece of selection bias rambling that's been covered 1000 times before.

I thought it would be good to have the Rochdale Dwarf back, but I was wrong. It's just the same old shite again and again.

I can only surmise that during his time away he was in a padded room gently banging his head on the wall and endlessly repeating "The PDC are c*nts, the PDC are c*nts."

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:52 am
by Skewball
DavidOwen67 wrote:
Murphio wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:25 amThis again.
I know. List the ones who failed and ignore the ones who've succeeded because they're "too old"

Another piece of selection bias rambling that's been covered 1000 times before.

I thought it would be good to have the Rochdale Dwarf back, but I was wrong. It's just the same old shite again and again.

I can only surmise that during his time away he was in a padded room gently banging his head on the wall and endlessly repeating "The PDC are c*nts, the PDC are c*nts."
It just doesnt wash anymore, it's like he has literally woken up after being 10 years in a coma. It's quite comical.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:52 am
by Paddy McGinty
NvH wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:53 am
Wazza180 wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:34 am Let's look at it this way.

Klaasen won the world title at 21. With a field that included the likes of Barney, G Anderson, King, Adams, Whitlock, Hankey, O'shea etc. . .
MVG the masters at 17
Bunting was winning titles in his teens and 20s and made it into the PDC top 16.

Plenty of examples of young players winning big titles at a young age.

Players do get better as they get more experience of course, but there doesn't look to be anyone for Tony Eccles to get excited about at all at the moment.
Crikey! :IIII:

I haven't really looked at the ages of all the players but I don't think it's that concerning. If Leighton Bennett is anywhere near as good as he thinks he is, then he'll end up in the PDC in a few years. Even you must see that the PDC is the only realistic option for a top player nowadays.

MvG is the only guy to win a major as a teenager, isn't he? It's extremely rare.
That's the point, they look promising but never achieve their expected potential. The ones that spend years on the BDO tour before switching always do better. They switch far to early, win a big adult title or fair well in the BDO then think about switching. So many young pretenders seem to fizzle out under the PDC regime.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:53 am
by Ginge
Thats right Paddy, look at Dean Reynolds.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:54 am
by Paddy McGinty
Ginge wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:53 am Thats right Paddy, look at Dean Reynolds.
:DDD:
It will take me ages to read that long list :DDD:

Point proven

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:55 am
by Ginge
You numpty!

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:57 am
by Paddy McGinty
:DDD: Booshed!! well and truly, you muppet.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:06 pm
by Vriezzer
ILAD wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:32 pmYawn

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:06 pm
by Case
Wazza180 wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:31 pm Is it me or is the lack of promising youth players in the PDC a bit concerning?

It's you.

Re: Youth problem

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:20 pm
by DavidB
No he’s got a point there!