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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by ILAD » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:47 pm

callataxi wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:39 pm
Scott mitchell, harms,warren dont appear on dart connect as entries? Are they definitely going?
Just have to wait till the list gets updated.
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Post by DavidOwen67 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:53 pm

foggs3355 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Had Lisa entered yet I did see her name we just have to wait and see the full list
Who cares? She won't get a card.

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Post by foggs3355 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:47 pm

DavidOwen67 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:53 pm
foggs3355 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Had Lisa entered yet I did see her name we just have to wait and see the full list
Who cares? She won't get a card.
Came within 1 point last year she can thro midd 90s over best of 9

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Post by oche balboa » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:06 pm

Its a lottery.
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Post by Ginge » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm

Ginge wrote:Someone say the "L" word, quickly!
Boom!!!!!!

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Post by oche balboa » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:12 pm

I stick by it ginge.
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Post by Murphio » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:13 pm

Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
Ginge wrote:Someone say the "L" word, quickly!
Boom!!!!!!
As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.

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Post by Ginge » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm

Murphio wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
Ginge wrote:Someone say the "L" word, quickly!
Boom!!!!!!
As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.
Funny how he only started using it though once Jamie Hughes didnt get through. Was adament he would beforehand.

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Post by oche balboa » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:17 pm

Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm
Murphio wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
Ginge wrote:Someone say the "L" word, quickly!
Boom!!!!!!
As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.
Funny how he only started using it though once Jamie Hughes didnt get through. Was adament he would beforehand.
I've always said the same :D
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Post by Murphio » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:19 pm

Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm
Murphio wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
Ginge wrote:Someone say the "L" word, quickly!
Boom!!!!!!
As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.
Funny how he only started using it though once Jamie Hughes didnt get through. Was adament he would beforehand.
Hughes is a good example - a very good player who missed out while other lesser players went through. Glenn Durrant is one of the top 16 players in the world, maybe top eight, and he scraped in by the skin of his teeth. I don't think Q School nessecarily gives cards to the best players and that needs looking at.

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Post by oche balboa » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:20 pm

Durrant scrapped in and now is near the top 16.... Yeah i think its a lottery.
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Post by Ginge » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:20 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm
Murphio wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
Ginge wrote:Someone say the "L" word, quickly!
Boom!!!!!!
As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.
Funny how he only started using it though once Jamie Hughes didnt get through. Was adament he would beforehand.
I've always said the same :D
No you havent.

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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by DavidOwen67 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:43 pm

foggs3355 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:47 pm
DavidOwen67 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:53 pm
foggs3355 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Had Lisa entered yet I did see her name we just have to wait and see the full list
Who cares? She won't get a card.
Came within 1 point last year she can thro midd 90s over best of 9
Didn't get a card then? Thanks for confirming.

And thanks to Oche for chucking in the L word on cue.

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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by DavidB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:45 pm

Murphio wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:19 pm
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm
Murphio wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
Ginge wrote:Someone say the "L" word, quickly!
Boom!!!!!!
As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.
Funny how he only started using it though once Jamie Hughes didnt get through. Was adament he would beforehand.
Hughes is a good example - a very good player who missed out while other lesser players went through. Glenn Durrant is one of the top 16 players in the world, maybe top eight, and he scraped in by the skin of his teeth. I don't think Q School nessecarily gives cards to the best players and that needs looking at.


Couldn’t agree more, something needs to be looked especially if the worst happens to the BDO and/or there is some alignment between the PDC and WDF to better stream through players to get cards to the tour. Is there a Q School in golf, for example? Oh the term Q School is rather naff!

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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by rubyred90 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:57 pm

DavidB wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:45 pm
Murphio wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:19 pm
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm
Murphio wrote:
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:07 pm
Boom!!!!!!
As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.
Funny how he only started using it though once Jamie Hughes didnt get through. Was adament he would beforehand.
Hughes is a good example - a very good player who missed out while other lesser players went through. Glenn Durrant is one of the top 16 players in the world, maybe top eight, and he scraped in by the skin of his teeth. I don't think Q School nessecarily gives cards to the best players and that needs looking at.


Couldn’t agree more, something needs to be looked especially if the worst happens to the BDO and/or there is some alignment between the PDC and WDF to better stream through players to get cards to the tour. Is there a Q School in golf, for example? Oh the term Q School is rather naff!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualifying_school

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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by DavidB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:02 pm

rubyred90 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:57 pm
DavidB wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:45 pm
Murphio wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:19 pm
Ginge wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:14 pm
Murphio wrote: As cliches go it's not the worst I have ever heard. An open draw can see one player fluke a load of easy games and someone else be handed the dregs. There are players earning cards while much better players lose out. The guaranteed cards for Lakeside semi finalists should never have been dropped.
Funny how he only started using it though once Jamie Hughes didnt get through. Was adament he would beforehand.
Hughes is a good example - a very good player who missed out while other lesser players went through. Glenn Durrant is one of the top 16 players in the world, maybe top eight, and he scraped in by the skin of his teeth. I don't think Q School nessecarily gives cards to the best players and that needs looking at.
Couldn’t agree more, something needs to be looked especially if the worst happens to the BDO and/or there is some alignment between the PDC and WDF to better stream through players to get cards to the tour. Is there a Q School in golf, for example? Oh the term Q School is rather naff!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualifying_school


Cheers.

I think then Murphio’s point is a valid one, in an open darts draw one player could cruise to card playing no hopers yet someone like Mitchell and Waites could draw each in the first round! In golf surely it’s a more even playing field to earn a tour card so something needs to be looked at in darts QS...
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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by ChrisW » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:03 pm

Are we doing a Q School comp this year?
Who ran it last year?

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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by DavidOwen67 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:07 pm

Some highly fancied players draw each other early doors every year.

But it's impossible to seed due to the differing backgrounds of all the players.

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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by trotter01 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:09 pm

It is a lottery.. but only to an extent..

You get 4 bites at the cherry in an event lacking the top 64 in the rankings plus others who haven't held a card for 2 years... If any player is serous about making big inroads in the PDC they should do OK in this over 4 events...

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Re: O2 players - who will get a Tour Card?

Post by DavidB » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:13 pm

DavidOwen67 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:07 pm
Some highly fancied players draw each other early doors every year.

But it's impossible to seed due to the differing backgrounds of all the players.


That’s the thing, I don’t think seeding is the answer because how could you do it? But there has to be an alternative. Perhaps if there is to be alignment with the WDF then you could seed from
that in the future or so many say top 16 earn cards...

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