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Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm
Wazza180 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:36 pm Good on him. Play with a group of friends nearer to home or play in a sterile leisure centre? I know which one I would choose.

The PDC don't try to avoid clashes with county these days (they did appear to once) and with the challenge tour on top it is becoming more difficult to select county squads. Good to see Scott is loyal to his county and makes life easier for them.
Play for nothing in a pub or play for 10k in a professional environment? I know which one I would choose.
Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
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Zapp Brannigan wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:02 pm
Mensur Suljovic Fan wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:49 am
Zapp Brannigan wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:52 am
Ginge wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:45 am Let me guess....county on the Sunday?
Dont really blame him for that, he wasnt in the pro tour until last weekend and has plans already made.
But the point of playing in the Challenge Tour is to get on the ProTour, so it's not as if this would have come as a huge shock to him
Is it

There was 1 place available for 300 odd players, cant imagine most were thinking that this is their ticket on the pro tour in 2 weeks time.
But a) someone like Mitchell would surely fancy their chances, and b) there'll surely be more players from the Challenge Tour able to play future ProTour events (in fact between now and PC1-2, there could well be players dropping out anyway)
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PreciesJJ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm
Wazza180 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:36 pm Good on him. Play with a group of friends nearer to home or play in a sterile leisure centre? I know which one I would choose.

The PDC don't try to avoid clashes with county these days (they did appear to once) and with the challenge tour on top it is becoming more difficult to select county squads. Good to see Scott is loyal to his county and makes life easier for them.
Play for nothing in a pub or play for 10k in a professional environment? I know which one I would choose.
Dutchman with a shocking disrespect of county arras there ;)
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Are people actually losing their shit over a player who is keeping his prior commitment
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PreciesJJ wrote:
Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm
Wazza180 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:36 pm Good on him. Play with a group of friends nearer to home or play in a sterile leisure centre? I know which one I would choose.

The PDC don't try to avoid clashes with county these days (they did appear to once) and with the challenge tour on top it is becoming more difficult to select county squads. Good to see Scott is loyal to his county and makes life easier for them.
Play for nothing in a pub or play for 10k in a professional environment? I know which one I would choose.
Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
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Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm
Wazza180 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:36 pm Good on him. Play with a group of friends nearer to home or play in a sterile leisure centre? I know which one I would choose.

The PDC don't try to avoid clashes with county these days (they did appear to once) and with the challenge tour on top it is becoming more difficult to select county squads. Good to see Scott is loyal to his county and makes life easier for them.
Play for nothing in a pub or play for 10k in a professional environment? I know which one I would choose.
Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
They have better clipboards in the leisure centres.
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So not county at all then! Bet he is getting at least a couple of grand for that, you cant blame him.
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Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm
Wazza180 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:36 pm Good on him. Play with a group of friends nearer to home or play in a sterile leisure centre? I know which one I would choose.

The PDC don't try to avoid clashes with county these days (they did appear to once) and with the challenge tour on top it is becoming more difficult to select county squads. Good to see Scott is loyal to his county and makes life easier for them.
Play for nothing in a pub or play for 10k in a professional environment? I know which one I would choose.
Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
So what you're trying to say is that county is better organized than a Pro Tour? Odd.

I have been to both setups, and the playing conditions are way better on the Pro Tour, obviously.
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PreciesJJ wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm Play for nothing in a pub or play for 10k in a professional environment? I know which one I would choose.
Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
So what you're trying to say is that county is better organized than a Pro Tour? Odd.

I have been to both setups, and the playing conditions are way better on the Pro Tour, obviously.
What specifically do you think is better or more professional?
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TimmyB wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:38 pm

Play for nothing in a pub or play for 10k in a professional environment? I know which one I would choose.
Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
They have better clipboards in the leisure centres.
Markers are not volunteers.
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fling wrote:
TimmyB wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
They have better clipboards in the leisure centres.
Markers are not volunteers.
What's the going rate for a marker these days? Genuinely dont know.
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Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:48 pm
fling wrote:
TimmyB wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
They have better clipboards in the leisure centres.
Markers are not volunteers.
What's the going rate for a marker these days? Genuinely dont know.
£100 a day on the pro tour. Whereas county officials are volunteers.
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Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:44 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Black Velvet wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03 pm
Dorset don't play in a pub.
But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
So what you're trying to say is that county is better organized than a Pro Tour? Odd.

I have been to both setups, and the playing conditions are way better on the Pro Tour, obviously.
What specifically do you think is better or more professional?
Professional markers, walls between the lanes, the quiteness in the arena
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spaceman70 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:57 pm
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:48 pm
fling wrote:
TimmyB wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm

I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
They have better clipboards in the leisure centres.
Markers are not volunteers.
What's the going rate for a marker these days? Genuinely dont know.
£100 a day on the pro tour. Whereas county officials are volunteers.
That wont go down well with some :grin:
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spaceman70 wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:48 pm
fling wrote:
TimmyB wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
They have better clipboards in the leisure centres.
Markers are not volunteers.
What's the going rate for a marker these days? Genuinely dont know.
£100 a day on the pro tour. Whereas county officials are volunteers.
Do they get knives supplied for back stabbing too?
Thinking of one.
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The Crusader wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:20 pm
spaceman70 wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:48 pm
fling wrote:
TimmyB wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:56 pm

They have better clipboards in the leisure centres.
Markers are not volunteers.
What's the going rate for a marker these days? Genuinely dont know.
£100 a day on the pro tour. Whereas county officials are volunteers.
Do they get knives supplied for back stabbing too?
Move on man, I certainly have. :)
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spaceman70 wrote:
The Crusader wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:20 pm
spaceman70 wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:48 pm
fling wrote: Markers are not volunteers.
What's the going rate for a marker these days? Genuinely dont know.
£100 a day on the pro tour. Whereas county officials are volunteers.
Do they get knives supplied for back stabbing too?
Move on man, I certainly have. :)
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PreciesJJ wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:44 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm
PreciesJJ wrote: But it's not a professional environment either
I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
So what you're trying to say is that county is better organized than a Pro Tour? Odd.

I have been to both setups, and the playing conditions are way better on the Pro Tour, obviously.
What specifically do you think is better or more professional?
Professional markers, walls between the lanes, the quiteness in the arena
Walls- County matches are played on a single board usually on a stage. The space around is usually much greater than one pro tour lane and there are usually no neighbouring boards. So walls between lanes is irrelevant/incomparable.

Quietness in the arena - are you saying every single pdc televised event is unprofessional?

Professional markers - surely a set up with 2 markers, a computer system linked to screen(s) displaying scores for all in the venue to see AND a referee/caller in addition with microphone is a more "professional" set up than one guy doing it all on his own? And how many of these guys are making their main living from this?
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Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:57 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:44 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Rout wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:48 pm

I dont know the specifics of the set up where this particular match is, but many county games have a full stage set up, with a referee/caller, multiple markers, maybe walk ons with music and an audience watching only your game on the stage.

Or 32 temporary darts stands in a leisure centre, closed to the public, with one volunteer marker, a handful of people, at best, watching your game(s) leant over a barrier.

Really not sure what you mean by "professional environment" tbh.
So what you're trying to say is that county is better organized than a Pro Tour? Odd.

I have been to both setups, and the playing conditions are way better on the Pro Tour, obviously.
What specifically do you think is better or more professional?
Professional markers, walls between the lanes, the quiteness in the arena
Walls- County matches are played on a single board usually on a stage. The space around is usually much greater than one pro tour lane and there are usually no neighbouring boards. So walls between lanes is irrelevant/incomparable.

Quietness in the arena - are you saying every single pdc televised event is unprofessional?

Professional markers - surely a set up with 2 markers, a computer system linked to screen(s) displaying scores for all in the venue to see AND a referee/caller in addition with microphone is a more "professional" set up than one guy doing it all on his own? And how many of these guys are making their main living from this?
Tbh, comparing a floor event with a sort of staged county event is the best thing to do. So we better stop here.
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