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Are they going to be in the right place on the board?
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Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:47 pm
ILAD wrote:But come next year the new unicorn board will be out with even bigger trebles so he will be fine.
Apparently it's going to have even shinier numbers!
And a magnet behind the treble 20
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Ive also heard they have improved durability and they might get 2 full legs out of one board.
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Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:23 pm Ive also heard they have improved durability and they might get 2 full legs out of one board.
Now you are taking the piss. :grin:
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ILAD wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:36 pm
Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:23 pm Ive also heard they have improved durability and they might get 2 full legs out of one board.
Now you are taking the piss. :grin:
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He has a solid base game, but not much of a B game. Over a long format against the top players he's a bit toothless.
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Thehateful180 wrote:He has a solid base game, but not much of a B game. Over a long format against the top players he's a bit toothless.
What's your definition of long format out of interest?
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Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 pm
Thehateful180 wrote:He has a solid base game, but not much of a B game. Over a long format against the top players he's a bit toothless.
What's your definition of long format out of interest?
Anything over best of 19 or around that. He seems to fall quite a way short whenever he faces Wright in a long format game.
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Thehateful180 wrote:
Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 pm
Thehateful180 wrote:He has a solid base game, but not much of a B game. Over a long format against the top players he's a bit toothless.
What's your definition of long format out of interest?
Anything over best of 19 or around that. He seems to fall quite a way short whenever he faces Wright in a long format game.
So it's just Wright now? It was "top players" a minute ago.

Since getting a card he has played 11 games that fit your definition, if we take best of 7 sets as equivalent of best of 19.

Beaten: Lewis, MVG, Wade, Clemens, M Smith, Dobey, Gurney

Lost to Barney, Price, Wright, M Smith

So "top players" I'd say he is 5-4 up.
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Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:21 pm
Thehateful180 wrote:
Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 pm
Thehateful180 wrote:He has a solid base game, but not much of a B game. Over a long format against the top players he's a bit toothless.
What's your definition of long format out of interest?
Anything over best of 19 or around that. He seems to fall quite a way short whenever he faces Wright in a long format game.
So it's just Wright now? It was "top players" a minute ago.

Since getting a card he has played 11 games that fit your definition, if we take best of 7 sets as equivalent of best of 19.

Beaten: Lewis, MVG, Wade, Clemens, M Smith, Dobey, Gurney

Lost to Barney, Price, Wright, M Smith

So "top players" I'd say he is 5-4 up.
Wright was an example. Top players are literally the very top players. The standard Durrant likely judges himself by. His level tends to be a respectable 93-95 average over that distance. That's sometimes good enough, but often isn't. 94 in the Matchplay semi was respectable but not enough. 94 in the world championship quarters. Not enough. 94 in the GSOD quarter final. Not enough.

One off wins aren't the story here, it's about patterns of performance and that pattern clearly is that Durrant struggles to maintain a really high level against the very best under the cosh. It's not really a criticism, it's just where his level is. It's why while he may consistently go pretty deep in events, he'll struggle to get over the line. I think he's a decent player. But the pattern is clear.
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The pattern of beating more top players over a long format than he has lost to, since getting a tour card?

Yes, that pattern is clear to see.
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Rout wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:52 pm The pattern of beating more top players over a long format than he has lost to, since getting a tour card?

Yes, that pattern is clear to see.
Sigh. You have been a bit creative with your accounting in those figures but I'll let it slide. You can go through the records yourself if you like. He always seems to exit the comps with a low-mid 90's average (barring the Grand Prix when it was 87 albeit double in). That just seems to be about his level. He just seems to lack that extra bit on top to become one of the top 4 or 5.

He hasn't looked like winning a big PDC comp when it gets to the business end. He was blown away by Price's B game at the world championship for example.
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Bloody facts getting in the way of blind guesswork hey.
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So duzza himself said at the end of the year he hasn’t been good enough to get to the business end of many tournaments and get further up the rankings and yet we are in to day two of people having a meltdown because it was said duzza wouldn’t be good enough to get to the business end of tournaments.

I kinda see why all the other darts forums died now
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Zapp Brannigan wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:56 pm So duzza himself said at the end of the year he hasn’t been good enough to get to the business end of many tournaments and get further up the rankings and yet we are in to day two of people having a meltdown because it was said duzza wouldn’t be good enough to get to the business end of tournaments.

I kinda see why all the other darts forums died now
Define business end?

For me business end is quarter's onward. He's done that regularly.
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A debate on a current players ability and potential based around predictions made before he switched on a darts forum

Yes, that's what's wrong with darts forums these days. Not the guys dragging personal info from peoples private lives, not the constant grammar policing, not the endless stream of threads begging the BDO to fail. It's because of debates about a darts player.

Your priorities are strange at times zapp.
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Booji Boy wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:59 pm
Zapp Brannigan wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:56 pm So duzza himself said at the end of the year he hasn’t been good enough to get to the business end of many tournaments and get further up the rankings and yet we are in to day two of people having a meltdown because it was said duzza wouldn’t be good enough to get to the business end of tournaments.

I kinda see why all the other darts forums died now
Define business end?

For me business end is quarter's onward. He's done that regularly.
Clearly the man himself doesn't see the quarters as the business end. It's amazing how he himself can see his shortcomings, but his stans refuse to.
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Lol at people who still think that Glen isn't an elite player.

All because he used to play in the BDO.
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I've seen MVG say he doesnt think hes had a good season, when by anyone elses standards it would have been an incredible season.

Proper champions tend not to accept their lot and want to do better and better. Kind of irrelevant to the wildly inaccurate predictions this thread was about isnt it?
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