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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Mr Glass » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:15 pm

Paddy McGinty wrote:Absulute rubbish, how can you possibly compare someone playing darts for and hour or two with someone competing in a very physical game like tennis.
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So you don't think that darts is mentally draining.???

I play darts (as you do) and I have also played some of the most physical sports out there, and there aren't many games that destroy you mentally as much as darts does.

I never once said that Phil was physically drained Paddy.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by ralph cifaretto » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:17 pm

GRAYISALEGEND wrote:An incredible darts game

Gutted 4 Barn as Rebel has already pointed out


Is anybody still talking about Barney being capable of winning a major again?

Barney could be considered: Lazy/Also-ran/Bottle-job/Excuse peddlar (delete as applicable).

'Gutted 4 Barn'. Don't make me laugh. He's done nothing in the last 2+ years for your comment not to be ridiculed.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Mr Glass » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:20 pm

ralph cifaretto wrote:'Gutted 4 Barn'. Don't make me laugh. He's done nothing in the last 2+ years for your comment not to be ridiculed.

I also don't understand these 'gutted' for Barn comments.

Is there a train of thought with the Barney fans that if his game against Wade last night was played after the Lewis/Taylor match, that Barney would have come out all guns firing against James as he knew he wouldn't have to face the man he has given up all hope of ever beating again in the Final.?

hmmmmmmm.
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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Paddy McGinty » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:37 pm

BrideOfFrankenstein wrote:
Paddy McGinty wrote:Absulute rubbish, how can you possibly compare someone playing darts for and hour or two with someone competing in a very physical game like tennis.
Regards Paddy
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So you don't think that darts is mentally draining.???

I play darts (as you do) and I have also played some of the most physical sports out there, and there aren't many games that destroy you mentally as much as darts does.

I never once said that Phil was physically drained Paddy.

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To a degree, yes I do, but tennis is not a good comparison with darts. Taylor has played difficult games in the past and sometimes many games a day, he had a full 24 hrs to relax and recouperate, can't people except that Phil didn't play as well as usual and stop inventing these stupid excuses for why he was beaten? ...........after all he's not a machine!!

Give credit where credits due.....the 17 x 180's that Ade hit may have had an affect on the outcome of the match, don't you think??

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Mr Glass » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:43 pm

Paddy McGinty wrote:To a degree, yes I do, but tennis is not a good comparison with darts. Taylor has played difficult games in the past and sometimes many games a day, he had a full 24 hrs to relax and recouperate, can't people except that Phil didn't play as well as usual and stop inventing these stupid excuses for why he was beaten? ...........after all he's not a machine!!
Give credit where credits due.....the 17 x 180's that Ade hit may have had an affect on the outcome of the match, don't you think??
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Yes, tennis wasn't the best comparison I could have made I agree.

I'm not making excuses as to why Taylor was beaten Paddy. I'm basically just trying to say that Lewis must have gained great belief from watching Taylor rattled the night before, hence why he went out there and owned that stage and took the game to Taylor (17 180's and all).

If Taylor had swept Anderson aside 4-0 the night before, then maybe (just maybe), Adrian might have not had so much belief that he could finally beat Taylor in a Major.
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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by mancdart » Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:55 pm

I think the Anderson fans/hangers on need to show some class here. Lewis was 4-2 down against Taylor and beat him 5-4 off his own back. was it 17 x 180s? Yeah, it was.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by xtreme rebel » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:04 pm

My gutted for Barney comment was meant in the way that when he seems to reach a major final, he runs into Taylor either along the way or in the final. The last 2 years of this event, the recent WMP. Now for once when Taylor is beaten, Barney turned up with his D game last night and got thumped. Thats just the way it goes.

Wade hasn't played that well this week. I'd be disgusted if he slips in on the blind side and picks up his 5th Sky major, without beating Taylor in any of them.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by robot » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:11 pm

mancdart wrote:I think the Anderson fans/hangers on need to show some class here. Lewis was 4-2 down against Taylor and beat him 5-4 off his own back. was it 17 x 180s? Yeah, it was.


Anderson fan here but don't give him any credit for Lewis beating Taylor last night. Taylor historically has had more stamina beyond any other player, but last nights final few sets were a combination of his level dropping, Ade's rising and I believe the younger guy's hunger and energy levels played their part.
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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Mr Glass » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:53 pm

xtreme rebel wrote:Wade hasn't played that well this week. I'd be disgusted if he slips in on the blind side and picks up his 5th Sky major, without beating Taylor in any of them.

You can only beat what's put up against you.

Every 'Major' Win is equal, regardless of who you come up against along the way.
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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Murphio » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:22 pm

BrideOfFrankenstein wrote:
xtreme rebel wrote:Wade hasn't played that well this week. I'd be disgusted if he slips in on the blind side and picks up his 5th Sky major, without beating Taylor in any of them.

You can only beat what's put up against you.

Every 'Major' Win is equal, regardless of who you come up against along the way.

Dont agree, to me there is a hollow nature of a victory if you havent beaten Taylor en route. Wade will have won five titles without facing the master in any of them - that is a fortunate stat on his behalf imo.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Azitis » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:38 pm

Murphio wrote:
BrideOfFrankenstein wrote:
xtreme rebel wrote:Wade hasn't played that well this week. I'd be disgusted if he slips in on the blind side and picks up his 5th Sky major, without beating Taylor in any of them.

You can only beat what's put up against you.

Every 'Major' Win is equal, regardless of who you come up against along the way.

Dont agree, to me there is a hollow nature of a victory if you havent beaten Taylor en route. Wade will have won five titles without facing the master in any of them - that is a fortunate stat on his behalf imo.

god help all the players when taylor retires! no one will ever be able to say they have won a major, because it will be "hollow". if you dont personally beat "the man" you beat the man who beat the man. quite logical really.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Mr Glass » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:42 pm

Murphio wrote:Dont agree, to me there is a hollow nature of a victory if you havent beaten Taylor en route. Wade will have won five titles without facing the master in any of them - that is a fortunate stat on his behalf imo.

But if Wade Wins tonight, he will have beaten a player who played better and beat Phil Taylor.
That's an even better achievement surely??

No such thing as an hollow victory guys.
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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Azitis » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:04 pm

yeah, and when liverpool did the double over man utd, then utd won the premiership, it was a "hollow" premiership win!

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Paddy McGinty » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:04 pm

BrideOfFrankenstein wrote:
Murphio wrote:Dont agree, to me there is a hollow nature of a victory if you havent beaten Taylor en route. Wade will have won five titles without facing the master in any of them - that is a fortunate stat on his behalf imo.

But if Wade Wins tonight, he will have beaten a player who played better and beat Phil Taylor.
That's an even better achievement surely??

No such thing as an hollow victory guys.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by and the Iron Fist » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:14 pm

xtreme rebel wrote:My gutted for Barney comment was meant in the way that when he seems to reach a major final, he runs into Taylor either along the way or in the final. The last 2 years of this event, the recent WMP. Now for once when Taylor is beaten, Barney turned up with his D game last night and got thumped. Thats just the way it goes.

Wade hasn't played that well this week. I'd be disgusted if he slips in on the blind side and picks up his 5th Sky major, without beating Taylor in any of them.




So you'll be supporting Adie Lewis tonight? First time for everything!


I wouldn't say Wade's majors were 'hollow' but it is better to beat Taylor along the way. Every final Wade has reached when he wasn't playing Taylor he won; every final he has played Taylor in he has lost. He does need to beat him to historically be classed among the great players like Van Barneveld and the olden day stars, in my opinion.
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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by trotter » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:20 pm

no such thing as a hollow victory....the record books don't have asterisks against the winner if they haven't beaten the number 1 seed along the way...nobody said Jocky Wilson's Embassy win once was devalued cos Bristow lost first round that year...it takes a special player to win a TV event regardless of opponents though i agree it would be personally special to that player if they did beat Taylor along the way though..
However, how many players have beaten taylor on TV and then won the whole thing....not many....Jenkins, Part , Mardle have done it and then lost so its not easy thats for sure

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by slymaster » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:53 pm

Paddy McGinty wrote:
Slymaster wrote:Actually looking at the numbers it seems to me that Ade has to thank Mr Anderson to a certain degree.


What a load of b0ll0cks!!!!!!!


Why try and belittle Ade's excellent achievement last night with statements like that?

Still upset cause your god got beat?

It makes me so angry when I hear rubbish like this ........ the close game with Gary should have been an ideal warm up for the match last night, what better practice could Phil have got?

Regards Paddy

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Nice editing....!

What about:
+++++++++++++
Lewis played superb in set 7 and 8!
Nothing to take away from Mr Lewis. It was a great comeback and a fantastic win for him.
Pressure on Taylor? Ade had the pressure being 2-4 down and 0-2 in set 9.
++++++++++++++

Thats the problem with ferrets like you.
I am able to analyse a game. You -obviously not.
Taylor looked drained as hell. His first dart was terrible.
His scoring was all over the place. T19 just awful.

Taylor is not my god but as a statsmaniac I am in awe.
I enjoyed his match vs Ade. And also admired Ade winning it.

Taylor not giving an interview – me don’t like.

All the best for Ade although I think that Wade will win it.
It was an important win for his career. Kudos to him!

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Paddy McGinty » Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:47 pm

slymaster wrote:
Paddy McGinty wrote:
Slymaster wrote:Actually looking at the numbers it seems to me that Ade has to thank Mr Anderson to a certain degree.


What a load of b0ll0cks!!!!!!!


Why try and belittle Ade's excellent achievement last night with statements like that?

Still upset cause your god got beat?

It makes me so angry when I hear rubbish like this ........ the close game with Gary should have been an ideal warm up for the match last night, what better practice could Phil have got?

Regards Paddy

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Nice editing....!

What about:
+++++++++++++
Lewis played superb in set 7 and 8!
Nothing to take away from Mr Lewis. It was a great comeback and a fantastic win for him.
Pressure on Taylor? Ade had the pressure being 2-4 down and 0-2 in set 9.
++++++++++++++

Thats the problem with ferrets like you.
I am able to analyse a game. You -obviously not.
Taylor looked drained as hell. His first dart was terrible.
His scoring was all over the place. T19 just awful.

Taylor is not my god but as a statsmaniac I am in awe.
I enjoyed his match vs Ade. And also admired Ade winning it.

Taylor not giving an interview – me don’t like.

All the best for Ade although I think that Wade will win it.
It was an important win for his career. Kudos to him!


My original B0ll0cks statement was a reply to your claim that Gary played a part in Phils defeat, now you come back with a post citing satistical evidence which means nothing. I can give you a statement of fact to mull over, Lewis was 4 - 2 down, but fought back to win the match 5 - 4 if Taylor didn't perform to his historical best that's not Ade's problem......after all he can only beat what's put in front of him. Taylor didn't look drained to me but worried, his darts wern't quite as accurate as usual, and the more he tried the poorer they were getting.

Why was Taylor so drained then?...... As I said earlier, before his match with Ade, he had played only one match in the last 72 hrs, hardly a demanding schedule don't you think?

I don't give a fek how you analyse your games but all I can tell you is that Ade played best on the night and hit more set winning doubles than Taylor, and in my book that's all that really counts.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by slymaster » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:17 pm

Paddy McGinty wrote:
My god you are a tosser!

My original B0ll0cks statement was a reply to your claim that Gary played a part in Phils defeat, now you come back with a post citing satistical evidence which means nothing. I can give you a statement of fact to mull over, Lewis was 4 - 2 down, but fought back to win the match 5 - 4 if Taylor didn't perform to his historical best that's not Ade's problem......after all he can only beat what's put in front of him. Taylor didn't look drained to me but worried, his darts wern't quite as accurate as usual, and the more he tried the poorer they were getting.

Why was Taylor so drained then?...... As I said earlier, before his match with Ade, he had played only one match in the last 72 hrs, hardly a demanding schedule don't you think?


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Because the match with Anderson did exhaust Taylor a lot. And now I am going to tell you a secret....darts is also a mental game.
For the first time in a while another player stepped up and matched (bettered) Taylor at the highest level.
Now add the fekkin crowd into the mix and voilà.

Just look at the Player Champs final. Taylor lost vs Nichoslon after he played against a fantastic Colin Lloyd.
Taylor 9-7 Lloyd
106,44 vs 100,95

He was lucky at the Euros. Jones played his first major final in the PDC.

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Re: World Grand Prix 2010 - Semi Finals

Post by Rout » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:25 pm

xtreme rebel wrote:Wade hasn't played that well this week. I'd be disgusted if he slips in on the blind side and picks up his 5th Sky major, without beating Taylor in any of them.



Disgusted?

Well done

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