Thehateful180 wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:49 pm
nikkiboy wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:35 pm
Oh and just to put a little meat on the bones and show the BBC (Brussels Broadcasting Club) bias there is a process under WTO terms where you can remove all tariffs with any country (or Bloc) with whom you are in discussions over a trade deal without affecting tariffs for everyone else for a period of two years.
I think you are merely proving that you know next to nothing about such tariffs. It's amazing how pretty much no country in the world trades with it's closest neighbours on WTO terms.
Are you suggesting that prominently pro brexit Andrew Neil is somehow biased against brexit? Quite a stretch there.
As someone who used to import from India, China and Bangladesh goods from stainless steel kitchenware to dresses I have a very good experience of tariffs and how HMRC/EU import procedures work, indeed using the customs book and later the online tariff calculator became second nature as did visiting and inspecting factories and inspecting/signing off goods on a Chinese dock for export.
My reading of article 24 of WTO rules allows for a preferrential rate between two countries for a period of up to two years whilst they are negotiation a trade deal, you can set rates at whatever percentage you want or zero as long as both parties are in agreement and this does NOT breach WTO rules.
Of course your statement of countries dealing with a neighbour not on WTO terms is true, why? because they negotiate a TRADE DEAL which supercedes WTO rules. May I suggest that you stop listening to the BBC and actually do a little research before you allow the media to scare you into agreeing with them.
As for Andrew Neil he is a decent reporter and naturally will take to opposite side to whomever he his interviewing. The BBC have been extremely bias toward remain, I think I posted on here the ludicrous story they had that there would be no sandwich fillings if we leave with no deal, a week ago they were scaring people into believing that they couldn't drive in the EU after the 29th March without a special permit and there was a huge wait blah blah, when they truth was that the EU had already agreed to recognise UK insurance in a reciprocal arrangement agreed back last May.
Fortunately their scare tactics are only fooling really stupid people who lack the ability of independent thought.
Quick question, look at the labels on the clothes you are wearing, are they from the EU or as the majority of clothing from China/Pakistan/India? If they are from the far east then how did they manage to get them through customs? we are being told that goods from France won't be able to come here if there's no deal? We deal with the majority of countries on WTO terms so how the hell do we get Mexican avocados, Moroccan tomatoes, Nigerian beans, Columbian coffee, Korean phones, South African and Australian wines?
I had this conversation with Paddy at Lakeside, goods from any part of the world MUST have a manifest stating what it is and the customs codes for each item, INCLUDING goods from France, Spain and Germany. When you do your VAT returns you have to include how much worth of goods you exported to or imported from the EU. This myth that goods and people travel seemlessly from the EU to the UK at the moment is laughable, when you board the ferry for France they take your passport details and enquire if you have over your customs allocation - think about that for a moment, if trade and movement is so seemsless and free now why do they need your passport details and why do they have the option to search your luggage at customs when you go to and come back from Spain?
It is all one big scare tactic, at the moment if you import goods from the EU you have to have the correct EU tariff code (aka commodity codes) and description on the customs declaration that YOU MUST HAVE. Have a guess what you will need to have after we leave the EU - the correct Tariff code, description and customs declaration.
Goods coming from the EU now are subject to spot checks by UK customs and the same will happen after we leave. If we have ten lorries a day from BMW with parts and they have done this every day for ten years does anyone really think that when customs see the electronic manifest they will suddenly decide to open every lorry and check it - scaremongering pure and simple.