Would you like to see the power return?

Post by **MancheStar** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:02 am

Would you like to see the power Phil Taylor return to the PDC?

Post by **TheSandman** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:52 am

He’s still a top 5 player.

I think a more interesting question is, would he have had more success in the last 5 years if he he didn’t move to target, cause it seemed like they could never match unicorn in producing a dart he was completely happy with.

Post by **MancheStar** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:09 am

I agree he was never the same player when he moved to target. He seemed a lot more accurate when he used his unicorn darts.

Post by **Paddy McGinty** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:11 am

No way.....

Post by **The Crusader** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:20 am

Post by **ChrisB** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:22 am

MancheStar wrote:I agree he was never the same player when he moved to target. He seemed a lot more accurate when he used his unicorn darts.

It’s easy to forget when he moved to Target, he was at the top of his game. But for some reason in the early months they couldn’t get the dart right. I recall especially they had trouble getting the dart to drop down at the -5 degree angle he always hit with. Was it not the stems (he used to use slick sticks)? They resolved in the end.

In my opinion only.. this allowed other players to build confidence whilst they worked on the dart and taking some beatings in that period knocked his confidence. He was never the same, despite the dart issues being resolved.

Post by **Paddy McGinty** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:24 am

That's just an excuse for getting old. I think he did a pretty good job of maintaining his standard over the many years he played.

Post by **thecat** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:43 am

Think he was no. 4 in the world when he retired, can’t say that about many sportsmen. Pretty sure if he wanted to he could come back and still occupy 1,2,3 in the rankings. But he doesn’t want to put the work in on the practice board anymore and don’t think he’d be happy doing a Steve Davis, floating round in the rankings.

Post by **Buzz Fledderjohn** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:53 am

ChrisB wrote:
MancheStar wrote:I agree he was never the same player when he moved to target. He seemed a lot more accurate when he used his unicorn darts.
It’s easy to forget when he moved to Target, he was at the top of his game. But for some reason in the early months they couldn’t get the dart right. I recall especially they had trouble getting the dart to drop down at the -5 degree angle he always hit with. Was it not the stems (he used to use slick sticks)? They resolved in the end.

In my opinion only.. this allowed other players to build confidence whilst they worked on the dart and taking some beatings in that period knocked his confidence. He was never the same, despite the dart issues being resolved.

In my opinion, the one thing Taylor never lacked was confidence, even at the end.
You're right about him not being the same player towards the end, even once he was happy with his equipment, but I wouldn't put that down to lack of confidence.
I think it was more than his age was finally catching up with him. He simply wasn't as good as he used to be any more. He'd still back himself to beat everyone else though.

Post by **DavidB** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:05 am

Would be literally the funniest thing ever in darts if Taylor came back then became world champion just to show he was the difference. Winning the matchlay and getting to the world final last year came pretty close mind

Post by **ChrisW** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:18 am

Would be interesting. But don't see it happening.

Post by **nikkiboy** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:50 am

DavidB wrote:Would be literally the funniest thing ever in darts if Taylor came back then became world champion just to show he was the difference. Winning the matchlay and getting to the world final last year came pretty close mind

Only Taylor could come back after a couple of years and win the world title, don't like the guy but his determination and work ethic is second to none. If he feels the hunger he'll do it.

Post by **DavidB** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:03 am

nikkiboy wrote:
DavidB wrote:Would be literally the funniest thing ever in darts if Taylor came back then became world champion just to show he was the difference. Winning the matchlay and getting to the world final last year came pretty close mind
Only Taylor could come back after a couple of years and win the world title, don't like the guy but his determination and work ethic is second to none. If he feels the hunger he'll do it.

Indeed just like Ronnie did in snooker.

Post by **devosteve** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:01 am

No. Guy gets on my nerves.

Game doesn't need him. It seems a long time ago when folks worried about a non Taylor PDC.

was he missed at the matchplay? Nope.

Post by **Moongoose McQueeen** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:06 pm

I'd like him to return to the BDO

Post by **Moongoose McQueeen** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:09 pm

Moongoose McQueeen wrote:I'd like him to return to the BDO

Would give us a much needed shot in the arm.

Publicity, national exposure and ticket sales.

Post by **nikkiboy** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:33 pm

Moongoose McQueeen wrote:
Moongoose McQueeen wrote:I'd like him to return to the BDO
Would give us a much needed shot in the arm.

Publicity, national exposure and ticket sales.

But it would be a tad embasassing when he wins Lakeside.

Post by **Moongoose McQueeen** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:36 pm

nikkiboy wrote:
Moongoose McQueeen wrote:
Moongoose McQueeen wrote:I'd like him to return to the BDO
Would give us a much needed shot in the arm.

Publicity, national exposure and ticket sales.
But it would be a tad embasassing when he wins Lakeside.

Why? He'd still be top 5 in PDC if he returned.

Post by **Black Velvet** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:58 pm

If it keeps him out of the commentary booth, yes.

Post by **Black Velvet** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:58 pm

Moongoose McQueeen wrote:I'd like him to return to the BDO

That would be great viewing.