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ChrisW wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:03 pm Are we doing a Q School comp this year?
Who ran it last year?
footballafc has run a Q School Competition for the last 2 years, putting up a £10 Darts Corner voucher.

Not been active on the forum for a while, so don't think he will be making it a hat trick.
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trotter01 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:09 pm It is a lottery.. but only to an extent..

You get 4 bites at the cherry in an event lacking the top 64 in the rankings plus others who haven't held a card for 2 years... If any player is serous about making big inroads in the PDC they should do OK in this over 4 events...


So the classic example to counter that is Glen Durrant, 3 x times world champion, 2 x world master was one dart away from not getting a card and only scrapped through on the OoM yet has gone on to make 3 x major semi finals and a quarters at Ally Pally and is now in the Premier League! Yet the nature of QS nearly meant this all never happened and that can’t be right!
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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:18 pm
trotter01 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:09 pm It is a lottery.. but only to an extent..

You get 4 bites at the cherry in an event lacking the top 64 in the rankings plus others who haven't held a card for 2 years... If any player is serous about making big inroads in the PDC they should do OK in this over 4 events...


So the classic example to counter that is Glen Durrant, 3 x times world champion, 2 x world master was one dart away from not getting a card and only scrapped through on the OoM yet has gone on to make 3 x major semi finals and a quarters at Ally Pally and is now in the Premier League! Yet the nature of QS nearly meant this all never happened and that can’t be right!
That's true.. I was really shocked at the meal Durrant made of QS.. he should have coasted through but lost to players he'd never lose to in a month of Sundays.. I think he was under immense pressure after 3 Lakeside though.
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DavidB wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:18 pm
trotter01 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:09 pm It is a lottery.. but only to an extent..

You get 4 bites at the cherry in an event lacking the top 64 in the rankings plus others who haven't held a card for 2 years... If any player is serous about making big inroads in the PDC they should do OK in this over 4 events...


So the classic example to counter that is Glen Durrant, 3 x times world champion, 2 x world master was one dart away from not getting a card and only scrapped through on the OoM yet has gone on to make 3 x major semi finals and a quarters at Ally Pally and is now in the Premier League! Yet the nature of QS nearly meant this all never happened and that can’t be right!
Scott Waites is a two time Lakeside and Grand Slam champion and lost in a Riley's qualifier for the UK Open - quite apart from his failure to get a tour card. There are guys who just don't appear to be cut out for these type of events but who are still capable of throwing 100 averages and beating anyone on TV. As I recall Dean Winstanley struggled to get a card when it was a lot easier than it is now before making a major impact in his PDC debut year. The fact someone of the calibre of Glenn durrant was within a dart of not getting a card should tell the PDC that some allowance needs to be made - starting with the last four of Lakeside getting one as in previous years.
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Chisnall coasted in on his first day didnt beat much

L128- Steve Watts 6-1
L64- Gary O'Connell 6-0
L32- Mark Jodrill 6-3
L16- Gary Eastwood 6-1
QF- Terry Temple 6-2

Pretty easy- But its more of a lottery since then
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oche balboa wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:58 pm Chisnall coasted in on his first day didnt beat much

L128- Steve Watts 6-1
L64- Gary O'Connell 6-0
L32- Mark Jodrill 6-3
L16- Gary Eastwood 6-1
QF- Terry Temple 6-2

Pretty easy- But its more of a lottery since then
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DavidOwen67 wrote:
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:58 pm Chisnall coasted in on his first day didnt beat much

L128- Steve Watts 6-1
L64- Gary O'Connell 6-0
L32- Mark Jodrill 6-3
L16- Gary Eastwood 6-1
QF- Terry Temple 6-2

Pretty easy- But its more of a lottery since then
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TimmyB wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:24 pm
DavidOwen67 wrote:
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:58 pm Chisnall coasted in on his first day didnt beat much

L128- Steve Watts 6-1
L64- Gary O'Connell 6-0
L32- Mark Jodrill 6-3
L16- Gary Eastwood 6-1
QF- Terry Temple 6-2

Pretty easy- But its more of a lottery since then
Hey! Leave Jodders alone!
It's alright for you to criticise people though.
I'm claiming that.
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DavidOwen67 wrote:
TimmyB wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:24 pm
DavidOwen67 wrote:
oche balboa wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:58 pm Chisnall coasted in on his first day didnt beat much

L128- Steve Watts 6-1
L64- Gary O'Connell 6-0
L32- Mark Jodrill 6-3
L16- Gary Eastwood 6-1
QF- Terry Temple 6-2

Pretty easy- But its more of a lottery since then
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foggs3355 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:47 pm
Came within 1 point last year she can thro midd 90s over best of 9
She very rarely does that. She's hit a 90+ average on TV on just 3 occasions out of 65 (according to Darts Database).
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DavidB wrote:
trotter01 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:09 pm It is a lottery.. but only to an extent..

You get 4 bites at the cherry in an event lacking the top 64 in the rankings plus others who haven't held a card for 2 years... If any player is serous about making big inroads in the PDC they should do OK in this over 4 events...


So the classic example to counter that is Glen Durrant, 3 x times world champion, 2 x world master was one dart away from not getting a card and only scrapped through on the OoM yet has gone on to make 3 x major semi finals and a quarters at Ally Pally and is now in the Premier League! Yet the nature of QS nearly meant this all never happened and that can’t be right!
I think the format of qschool is right with the idea that 4 days of darts the best players shine through, we saw that with Chissy years ago, Hughes last year who walked day 1 and cadby who walked it. Duzza was a bit of an anomaly in that I think he put far too much pressure on himself making it such a big deal over the years. Someone mentioned deano I was there that weekend and it was a case of losing a cracking match in day 1, bottling day2 and then winning day 3 which kinda proves the point.

I think the issue is the oom and how they do that to get the consistent players through, I’d prefer it a point a game won or even a point a leg.
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Zapp Brannigan wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:46 am
DavidB wrote:
trotter01 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:09 pm It is a lottery.. but only to an extent..

You get 4 bites at the cherry in an event lacking the top 64 in the rankings plus others who haven't held a card for 2 years... If any player is serous about making big inroads in the PDC they should do OK in this over 4 events...


So the classic example to counter that is Glen Durrant, 3 x times world champion, 2 x world master was one dart away from not getting a card and only scrapped through on the OoM yet has gone on to make 3 x major semi finals and a quarters at Ally Pally and is now in the Premier League! Yet the nature of QS nearly meant this all never happened and that can’t be right!
I think the format of qschool is right with the idea that 4 days of darts the best players shine through, we saw that with Chissy years ago, Hughes last year who walked day 1 and cadby who walked it. Duzza was a bit of an anomaly in that I think he put far too much pressure on himself making it such a big deal over the years. Someone mentioned deano I was there that weekend and it was a case of losing a cracking match in day 1, bottling day2 and then winning day 3 which kinda proves the point.

I think the issue is the oom and how they do that to get the consistent players through, I’d prefer it a point a game won or even a point a leg.
Point a leg just adds to the effect of the random draw.

The random draw can have better players play each other early, killing their points total. I think it would be a good idea to try to introduce some seeding. Could have board seeds for the Pro Tour and Challenge Tour rankings, and then on the last day seed based on points accumulated.
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The final list be interesting how many tried q school
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Love him or hate him I would love DBG to get a card.
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We all would. Sadly, he isn't good enough which will be borne out by his averages.
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Wouldnt be at all surprised if he is thrown out of the competition after one game, tbh. Maybe trying to destroy the tablet to stop his losing average going on display to the world.

He does know we all finally get to see his averages now, yes? Hope Graham Fairhurst has got himself some decent life cover.
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He will say dartconnect is wrong and recording his 140's as 41s
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He will say dartconnect is wrong and recording his 140's as 41s
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oche balboa wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:15 pm He will say dartconnect is wrong and recording his 140's as 41s
I can't belive he is going. Wot price is he for a no show
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Bump.
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