2020 Q School

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by trotter01 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:37 pm

Roebuckio wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:30 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:55 pm
Roebuckio wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:50 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:40 pm
Roebuckio wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:34 pm
32 cards
63/64 - Barney back in pot
25/26 playing year 2/2 - Bain back in pot
4 Dev & 4 CT
Bain will keep his, Barney his will go to Alcinas.
Alcinas is at euro Q school, Bain has surrendered and also left MDA , the information is readily available on the PDPA website !
PDPA already confirmed that RVBs card is in the pot.
Missed about Bain, my apologies.

The PDPA has the top 64 still as TBC, so Alcinas could still get his card.
So 31 cards it is - Alcinas must have been pushed up to 64th
That was always going to be the case I'd heard.. like I said previously the PDPA had jumped the gun on saying Barney's card would go to QS... I think its the right decision

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by Roebuckio » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:39 pm

Agreed Trotter it was definitely on their website then taken off hence thinking 32 based on that info. Alcinas has dodged a bullet not in the room of 300 or so!

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Re: 2020 Q School

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by oche balboa » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:56 pm

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by Dannyboy » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:10 pm

Surprised Ana hasn't gone?

Can understand the overseas guys not going, but what's the excuse for the UK based men's players? Considering the BDO will be dead and they cannot pay their players?

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by clemy1989 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:13 pm

Surely with the numbers attending its time to look at restricting the pro tour to include a higher number, or run a challenger tour prem and div 1 based on finishing spots on the q-school oom. Potentially run a promotion and relegation system at the end of the year.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by Dannyboy » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:15 pm

853 entries in total. Wow. To think you can go back about 8-10 years and Q School was barely scraping just over 100 entries.

This means that the PDPA will have nearly 1000 members this season.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by meetthefeebles » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:16 pm

Dannyboy wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:10 pm
Surprised Ana hasn't gone?

Can understand the overseas guys not going, but what's the excuse for the UK based men's players? Considering the BDO will be dead and they cannot pay their players?
Q school costs money. That entry fee is a lot of money if you have nowt and you know in your heart that you simply aren't going to get a return on it because you're not good enough.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by Dannyboy » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:16 pm

clemy1989 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:13 pm
Surely with the numbers attending its time to look at restricting the pro tour to include a higher number, or run a challenger tour prem and div 1 based on finishing spots on the q-school oom. Potentially run a promotion and relegation system at the end of the year.
I've suggested before that the top 128 in the Q School OoM should get a Challenge Tour card (top ups feeding each other where spaces allow), with increased prize money and the the remaining 700 play on a seperate Open Tour, run in conjunction with the many, many opens played across the country.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by meetthefeebles » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:17 pm

Dannyboy wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:15 pm
853 entries in total. Wow. To think you can go back about 8-10 years and Q School was barely scraping just over 100 entries.

This means that the PDPA will have nearly 1000 members this season.
It was inevitable, really. Pretty much everyone who plays darts for money has realised that one of the two main organisations has no money at all to pay anyone. What option do they have?

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by meetthefeebles » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:20 pm

Bazza wants nothing to do with 800 or so pub players. Not remotely interested. There's no money in it for him and it potentially pollutes his product - there's no point spending years moving the 'pub game over the road' and making sure that his product only had the best players on the telly if suddenly he has all those pub players in his organisation.

Hearn does want the BDO to survive, in largely it's current form. It keeps the pub players out, except in January when he wants all their q-school entry fees

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by 1205 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:22 pm

trotter01 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:37 pm
Roebuckio wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:30 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:55 pm
Roebuckio wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:50 pm
PreciesJJ wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:40 pm


Bain will keep his, Barney his will go to Alcinas.
Alcinas is at euro Q school, Bain has surrendered and also left MDA , the information is readily available on the PDPA website !
PDPA already confirmed that RVBs card is in the pot.
Missed about Bain, my apologies.

The PDPA has the top 64 still as TBC, so Alcinas could still get his card.
So 31 cards it is - Alcinas must have been pushed up to 64th
That was always going to be the case I'd heard.. like I said previously the PDPA had jumped the gun on saying Barney's card would go to QS... I think its the right decision
I think it's wrong. I think that resigned cards should go to Q School.

Retirement is just part of the natural cycle. Alcinas wasn't in the top 64.

To make things worse, Alcinas had a terrible year, finishing 96th on the Pro Tour OOM, and failing to qualify for anything.
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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by clemy1989 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 pm

I'm sure they could add another 64 tour cards. Players ranked 65 down play in the 1st round of Pro tour events top 64 get a bye to round too. Rankings updated after each event.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by Dannyboy » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:25 pm

41 countries are represented across the two schools this week.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by 1205 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:26 pm

clemy1989 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:24 pm
I'm sure they could add another 64 tour cards. Players ranked 65 down play in the 1st round of Pro tour events top 64 get a bye to round too. Rankings updated after each event.
Not enough money.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by trotter01 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:32 pm

Dannyboy wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:10 pm
Surprised Ana hasn't gone?

Can understand the overseas guys not going, but what's the excuse for the UK based men's players? Considering the BDO will be dead and they cannot pay their players?
What would be the point ?... She wouldn't get a card and wouldn't be remotely competitive on the Challenge Tour these days with the way she's playing..

She may as well save her money.. Events on the BDO/WDF side are not going to disappear and she's still got exbos... Makes sense to me

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by Booji Boy » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:46 pm

meetthefeebles wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:20 pm
Bazza wants nothing to do with 800 or so pub players. Not remotely interested. There's no money in it for him and it potentially pollutes his product - there's no point spending years moving the 'pub game over the road' and making sure that his product only had the best players on the telly if suddenly he has all those pub players in his organisation.

Hearn does want the BDO to survive, in largely it's current form. It keeps the pub players out, except in January when he wants all their q-school entry fees
I think the q school fees go direct to the pdpa to cover their costs.

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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by phil davies » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:58 pm

Dannyboy wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:16 pm
clemy1989 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:13 pm
Surely with the numbers attending its time to look at restricting the pro tour to include a higher number, or run a challenger tour prem and div 1 based on finishing spots on the q-school oom. Potentially run a promotion and relegation system at the end of the year.
I've suggested before that the top 128 in the Q School OoM should get a Challenge Tour card (top ups feeding each other where spaces allow), with increased prize money and the the remaining 700 play on a seperate Open Tour, run in conjunction with the many, many opens played across the country.
I quite like the idea of restricting the challenge Tour I would say it should be more than just 128 though. Maybe cut it to the top 160 players from q school ranking. I know that would mean byes for some but if you cut it to 128 they wouldn’t all turn up anyway especially lots of brits at the ones in Germany.
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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by ssjsa » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:15 pm

Really surprised to see that Danny Baggish is not amongst the entries.
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Re: 2020 Q School

Post by spaceman70 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:22 pm

ssjsa wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:15 pm
Really surprised to see that Danny Baggish is not amongst the entries.
Me too, thought he had said he was going.
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