The others (Q School)

Post by **ChrisW** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:30 pm

Who will make a significant impact in the next 2 years from the rest?

Jason Lowe
Gary Blades
Kai Fan Leung
Bradley Brooks
Jeff Smith
Aaron Beeney
Nick Kenny
Adam Hunt
Ryan Murray
Peter Jacques
Damon Heta
Andy Hamilton
Alan Tabern
Wayne Jones
William Borland
Martin Atkins
Steve Brown
Darren Penhall
Lisa Ashton
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Harald Leitinger
Mike de Decker
Karel Sedlacek
Steffen Siepmann
Dirk van Duijvenbode
Derk Telnekes
Martijn Kleermaker
Daniel Larsson
Boris Krcmar
Krzystof Kciuk

Post by **oche balboa** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:41 pm

Jason Lowe - Will pick up good wins but will be around where Matt Edgar is in rankings
Gary Blades- Cant see him retaining his card
Kai Fan Leung- If willing to travel he will be top 50
Bradley Brooks-Experienced now despite young age will be 50-60
Jeff Smith Jeff Will be solid enough in the lower 40s,
Aaron Beeney Cant See him retaining his card
Nick Kenny Hot and cold player, could make top 32 but will be just short
Adam Hunt WIll just about retain his tour card
Ryan Murray Cant see him retaining his card
Peter Jacques Cant see him retaining his card
Damon Heta Top 48
Andy Hamilton Will keep his card with some ease but not in the top 32
Alan Tabern Will lose his card and then winning it back.....again
Wayne Jones Same as Tabern
William Borland Young but with a bit of scope. top 50 min
Martin Atkins Wont keep his tourcard
Steve Brown Off the board will be key and i cant see him doing much
Darren Penhall Will not retain his card
Lisa Ashton Will keep her card
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Harald Leitinger Will keep his card
Mike de Decker No retain for De Decker
Karel Sedlacek He will be ok
Steffen Siepmann Will not keep his card
Dirk van Duijvenbode Will be outside the top 64
Derk Telnekes Talented but will take a while top 50 min
Martijn Kleermaker Will expolde in patches but will be outside the top 32
Daniel Larsson WIll not keep his card
Boris Krcmar Will not keep his card
Krzystof Kciuk will not keep his card

Post by **trotter01** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:13 pm

Not bad summary Oche but I cannot see Lisa Ashton being that close to retaining her card.. Other than it it really is hard to judge as most are much of a muchness to be fair but I'd like Kleermaker to do well as he's a good player to watch but is a bit hot and cold

Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:13 pm

Lowe: underrated player, did very well in 2018 without even giving the tour his full attention. Came through Q-School very impressively too, I fancy he'll keep his tour card
Blades: straggler
Leung: Like Lowe, he has some decent pedigree, and did very well at Q-School, though it remains to be seen if and when he can base himself in the UK. Potential for a few clashes between the main tour and the Asian Tour, and also with his soft-tip stuff too
Brooks: should have a better time of it on this tour card compared to the one he just lost
Smith: like Leung, will he base himself in the UK?
Beeney: straggler
Kenny: might struggle, seems to have stagnated these last few years, though he's young enough to fulfil his promise. Gonna be tough though
Hunt: will probably be there or thereabouts in terms of the top 64 in two years time
Murray: straggler
Jacques: straggler
Heta: pick of the bunch, look at what he did last year, playing with the best players in the world, he should get even better this year
Hamilton: straggler
Tabern: similar to Hunt, though at his age might not hit the heights again
Jones: similar to Tabern
Borland: very interesting prospect, very raw, but there's clearly talent there. Reckon he might struggle at times this year, but maybe next year he might become a right player. Enough to secure his tour card? Who knows?
Atkins: straggler
Brown: will he even do the tour?
Penhall: who?
Ashton: probably won't do an awful lot, but might capitalise early on as the novelty of her on tour means the men crap their pants against her. Will need to up her A-game, which she might do playing against the top players

Leitinger: don't know much about him. I hear he has decent pedigree from the soft-tip side of the game, so he might not be totally useless as some fear, and he did have to overcome a lot of good players to win his tour card
De Decker: finally got over the line at Q-School, pleased for him, because he's a really good player on his day. Reckon this is the time he really kicks on
Sedlacek: another good player, fancy him to stick around after the initial two years
Siepmann: we've seen him on the Euro Tour a bit, he's clearly no joke, though competing week in week out against that calibre of opposition is a different ball game
Dirk: similar to de Decker, can he finally kick on? Will be there or there abouts I'm sure
Derk: similar to Borland
Kleermaker: quality player, really impressed by his attitude and showed no little ability in the BDO too. One of the best of this year's crop
Larsson: rate him, but he has things going on with his personal life with work and looking after his family, so may not play that much
Krcmar: like Leung, is a high-quality soft-tipper, so may be tempted to do that over the ProTour when there's a clash. Would imagine he'd do most of the tour though, will be competitive I'm sure. Next Suljovic/Ratajski? Stranger things have happened
Kciuk: don't think he'll retain his card, but I don't think he'll be an embarrassment neither

Post by **Zapp Brannigan** » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:50 pm

oche balboa wrote:Jason Lowe - Will pick up good wins but will be around where Matt Edgar is in rankings
Gary Blades- Cant see him retaining his card
Kai Fan Leung- If willing to travel he will be top 50
Bradley Brooks-Experienced now despite young age will be 50-60
Jeff Smith Jeff Will be solid enough in the lower 40s,
Aaron Beeney Cant See him retaining his card
Nick Kenny Hot and cold player, could make top 32 but will be just short
Adam Hunt WIll just about retain his tour card
Ryan Murray Cant see him retaining his card
Peter Jacques Cant see him retaining his card
Damon Heta Top 48
Andy Hamilton Will keep his card with some ease but not in the top 32
Alan Tabern Will lose his card and then winning it back.....again
Wayne Jones Same as Tabern
William Borland Young but with a bit of scope. top 50 min
Martin Atkins Wont keep his tourcard
Steve Brown Off the board will be key and i cant see him doing much
Darren Penhall Will not retain his card
Lisa Ashton Will keep her card
__________
Harald Leitinger Will keep his card
Mike de Decker No retain for De Decker
Karel Sedlacek He will be ok
Steffen Siepmann Will not keep his card
Dirk van Duijvenbode Will be outside the top 64
Derk Telnekes Talented but will take a while top 50 min
Martijn Kleermaker Will expolde in patches but will be outside the top 32
Daniel Larsson WIll not keep his card
Boris Krcmar Will not keep his card
Krzystof Kciuk will not keep his card

Can’t disagree with most of them. Think kleermaker is one that could surprise people

Hamilton I can’t see doing anything again, he’s going to be around 64th

Heta is someone who I think the hype will die down, lot of travelling for him to be in the top 32

Kenny is the one i disagree with, can see him being in the same boat as your Scot bakers, having the odd good performance but still struggling to get into the automatic tour card spots

Post by **MrLil8** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:26 am

Won't pretend to mow most, notable ones.

Smith - around 32-40.
Hamilton - loses his card.
Heta - finishes around 32.
Kleermaker - ends Top 32 with plenty of good runs. Best of the lot.

Post by **BlueSpark** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:52 am

None of them

Post by **ChrisW** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:51 am

Does anyone know if Heta plans on moving over.

Post by **PreciesJJ** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:55 am

ChrisW wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:51 am Does anyone know if Heta plans on moving over.

Yes, he has already moved to the UK with his family, living close to Kyle Anderson. And in contrast with Cadby, he has no criminal record, so he has no visa issues.

Post by **ChrisW** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:15 am

So to compare here is the list of the first time we had Q school UK and Europe 2 years ago in 2018.
2 years later and their current positions in the OOM.

Corey Cadby 63rd 62k
Eddie Dootson 165th 4k
Robert Owen 74th 41k
Alan Tabern 70th 49k
Arron Monk 72nd 42k
George Killington 121st 11k
Bradley Brooks 94th 21k
Dawson Murschell 122nd 10k
Nathan Aspinall 8th 450k
Ross Smith 48th 103k
Terry Temple 156th 5k
Ryan Harrington 89th 26k
Simon Stevenson 66th 56k
Gary Eastwood 149th 7k
John Goldie 163rd 5k
Matthew Edgar 64th 60k
Ryan Meikle 69th 50k
Ryan Joyce 42nd 119k
Kevin Burness 83rd 31k
Tony Newell 132nd 8k
Luke Woodhouse 59th 67k
Peter Hudson 95th 20k
Mark Wilson 113th 14k
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Jeffrey de Zwaan 20th 238k
Mario Robbe 104th 16k
Tytus Kanik 92nd 24k
Gabriel Clemens 39th 128k
Danny Noppert 27th 197k
Robert Marijanovic 84th 30k
Dirk van Duijvenbode 85th 27k
Vincent Kamphuis 118th 11k
Jose Justicia 82nd 34k
Davy van Baelen 99th 17k

Post by **Wazza180** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:32 pm

I would bet my house that Hamilton qualifies for the PDC World Championship this year.

Post by **BlueSpark** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:03 pm

No one cares

Post by **Black Velvet** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:08 pm

Is everything ok mate?

Post by **BlueSpark** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:10 pm

Lovely thanks, on a training course today and tomorrow so having a whale of a time

Post by **Black Velvet** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:11 pm

Excellent!

Post by **spaceman70** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:44 pm

Wazza180 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:32 pm I would bet my house that Hamilton qualifies for the PDC World Championship this year.

I’d have Thornton over Hamilton with you this year, how much is your house worth?

Post by **trotter01** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:52 pm

BlueSpark wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:03 pm No one cares

I can give you the Samaritans number if it would help...

Post by **DavidB** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:00 pm

BlueSpark wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:52 am None of them

Placeholder for any luck??

Post by **ChrisW** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:11 pm

DavidB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:00 pm
BlueSpark wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:52 am None of them
Placeholder for any luck??

You will need to define 'significant impact'

Post by **DavidB** » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:17 pm

ChrisW wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:11 pm
DavidB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:00 pm
BlueSpark wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:52 am None of them
Placeholder for any luck??
You will need to define 'significant impact'

I’m not the one who said ‘none of them’