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Unicorn "TV" Dartboards

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Edgar TV looking into specially and separately packaged "made for TV use" Unicorn boards compared to those sold in shops for home use.

His conclusion as a tour card holder - made for TV Boards have thinner wires and therefore larger scoring areas than a normal board.

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Is anyone really that interested in this conversation - you're arguing over less than 2mm and within a margin of error. The BDO's own rules allow for a margin of error... no two boards are the same and the BDO themselves changed their rules to allow the Blade IV when that came in a few years ago.

I'd argue the production quality in the TV board is probably a lot more precise and deliberate than a bog standard mass produced board purchased in Argos. Perhaps Ed can shed some more light.
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Actually I'd say the production quality of a TV board is less than a retail board. Because it doesn't have to last as long they put thinner wires and less compacted sisal.
Remember a TV board may knly be used for 20 minutes.
Those thinner wires on a retail board wouldn't hold up to months of pounding.
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0.2mm difference. Call the cops.

Plus for this to carry any weight it needs to be done on a batch of boards not just one of each.

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Dannyboy wrote:Is anyone really that interested in this conversation - you're arguing over less than 2mm and within a margin of error. The BDO's own rules allow for a margin of error... no two boards are the same and the BDO themselves changed their rules to allow the Blade IV when that came in a few years ago.

I'd argue the production quality in the TV board is probably a lot more precise and deliberate than a bog standard mass produced board purchased in Argos. Perhaps Ed can shed some more light.
It's not 2mm difference. It's 0.2mm, which is pretty much no difference at all.

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What is the official width of a point on a dart?
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Booji Boy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:42 am
Dannyboy wrote:Is anyone really that interested in this conversation - you're arguing over less than 2mm and within a margin of error. The BDO's own rules allow for a margin of error... no two boards are the same and the BDO themselves changed their rules to allow the Blade IV when that came in a few years ago.

I'd argue the production quality in the TV board is probably a lot more precise and deliberate than a bog standard mass produced board purchased in Argos. Perhaps Ed can shed some more light.
It's not 2mm difference. It's 0.2mm, which is pretty much no difference at all.
Yes my apologies - I clearly wasn't awake enough when I posted this earlier.
I wouldn't even know how to quantify a 0.2mm difference. 2 hundredths of a cm.
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But looking at the thumbnail he is trying to say the difference is the same as shown in the picture.
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ILAD wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:17 pm But looking at the thumbnail he is trying to say the difference is the same as shown in the picture.
It's nowhere near, he's photos hopped it, the scoring area is bigger, however small but it is and that coupled with the thinner wires have to equate into higher averages.
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Do they use 'TV' boards for the floor tournaments ?

Or are they the 'retail' ones ?

I suspect there is no difference just different batches
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nikkiboy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:41 am Actually I'd say the production quality of a TV board is less than a retail board. Because it doesn't have to last as long they put thinner wires and less compacted sisal.
Remember a TV board may knly be used for 20 minutes.
Those thinner wires on a retail board wouldn't hold up to months of pounding.
Durability, not production quality.

The ideal match dartboard would minimize the width of the wire and the number of bounceouts, and hold up during that match. Unicorn at least seems to be working on the wire.
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Lots of seething going on here, lovely stuff.
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Some very quick and very dirty maths suggests that, taking these single measurements on their own, double area would be increased by 4.92%, while treble area would see an increase of 1.56% on the "TV" board.
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if the segments are 0.2 mm or 2 mm bigger, so what? its a level playing field.
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thecat wrote:if the segments are 0.2 mm or 2 mm bigger, so what? its a level playing field.
Spot on. The pdc can do as they wish. They have nobody to hold them to account.

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Booji Boy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:11 pm
thecat wrote:if the segments are 0.2 mm or 2 mm bigger, so what? its a level playing field.
Spot on. The pdc can do as they wish. They have nobody to hold them to account.

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Regardless of any other point about the effects, it always been denied and ridiculed on here that 'TV Boards' even existed at all.

Ifm in particular has been heavily mocked and ridiculed for just suggesting that they have separate boards for use on TV than elsewhere. Chris Mason also suggested it on another form a long long time ago if I remember right.

Now it has been proven. That deserves acknowledgement.
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thecat wrote:
Booji Boy wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:11 pm
thecat wrote:if the segments are 0.2 mm or 2 mm bigger, so what? its a level playing field.
Spot on. The pdc can do as they wish. They have nobody to hold them to account.

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hold them to account? over what?
Anything

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bizarre
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Rout wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:41 pm Regardless of any other point about the effects, it always been denied and ridiculed on here that 'TV Boards' even existed at all.

Ifm in particular has been heavily mocked and ridiculed for just suggesting that they have separate boards for use on TV than elsewhere. Chris Mason also suggested it on another form a long long time ago if I remember right.

Now it has been proven. That deserves acknowledgement.
I seriously hope you never get called for jury service.
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