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Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Addicks Fan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:57 am

As with the PDC version, round-by-round averages compared with 2017 - 2011. Match averages weighted by number of legs. I'll do an individual version for each player at the end. 2006 onwards only three years have had a better L32 average, and it's about par for recent years. I think people on here have short memories!

Prelim: 81.43 (83.59; 83.75; 78.54; 78.44)
Last 32: 86.78 (88.17; 86.06; 87.88; 85.15; 84.79; 86.04; 85.60)
Last 16: - (88.85; 87.00; 90.89; 87.97; 85.34; 88.08; 85.98)
Quarter Finals: - (91.10; 92.45; 92.15; 92.08; 90.63; 89.24; 88.38)
Semi Finals: - (95.54; 89.27; 96.00; 89.84; 90.51; 87.70; 88.18)
Final: - (93.39; 86.27; 92.57; 94.26; 84.17; 88.89; 90.61)

Overall (L32 onwards): 86.78 (89.92; 87.81; 90.61; 88.40; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)
Overall: 85.20 (88.80; 87.14; 88.60; 86.78; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Astonvilla » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:02 pm

Thanks. I was just wondering if someone would post these.

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Addicks Fan » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:18 am

Updated for the 2nd Round - only the third year to show a 90+ average since 2005:

Prelim: 81.43 (83.59; 83.75; 78.54; 78.44)
Last 32: 86.78 (88.17; 86.06; 87.88; 85.15; 84.79; 86.04; 85.60)
Last 16: 90.87 (88.85; 87.00; 90.89; 87.97; 85.34; 88.08; 85.98)
Quarter Finals: - (91.10; 92.45; 92.15; 92.08; 90.63; 89.24; 88.38)
Semi Finals: - (95.54; 89.27; 96.00; 89.84; 90.51; 87.70; 88.18)
Final: - (93.39; 86.27; 92.57; 94.26; 84.17; 88.89; 90.61)

Overall (L32 onwards): 88.40 (89.92; 87.81; 90.61; 88.40; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)
Overall: 86.99 (88.80; 87.14; 88.60; 86.78; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Dannyboy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:53 am

That does surprise me

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Addicks Fan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:22 pm

Updated for quarters and semis - best QF averages since 2004:

Prelim: 81.43 (83.59; 83.75; 78.54; 78.44)
Last 32: 86.78 (88.17; 86.06; 87.88; 85.15; 84.79; 86.04; 85.60)
Last 16: 90.87 (88.85; 87.00; 90.89; 87.97; 85.34; 88.08; 85.98)
Quarter Finals: 92.53 (91.10; 92.45; 92.15; 92.08; 90.63; 89.24; 88.38)
Semi Finals: 91.48 (95.54; 89.27; 96.00; 89.84; 90.51; 87.70; 88.18)
Final: - (93.39; 86.27; 92.57; 94.26; 84.17; 88.89; 90.61)

Overall (L32 onwards): 89.56 (89.92; 87.81; 90.61; 88.40; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)
Overall: 88.34 (88.80; 87.14; 88.60; 86.78; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Addicks Fan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:25 pm

Dannyboy wrote:That does surprise me
I think people think everything at Lakeside used to be better, whereas in fact everything at the PDC used to be worse. And of course the names moving on. For example, the 2006 QFs were like this:

(90.18) Jelle Klaasen 5 V 4 Paul Hogan (87.39)
(87.09) Shaun Greatbatch 5 V 3 Paul Hanvidge (85.38)
(88.98) Martin Adams 5 V 2 Mike Veitch (88.89)
(93.93) Raymond van Barneveld 5 V 3 Tony O Shea (89.25)

Stunning quality all round I think you'll agree!

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by trotter » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:40 pm

Yes it's certainly suffered in comparison with the huge growth and improvements at the PDC and suffers from immediately following Ally Pally which just gets better and better......it's held its standard ,especially for the latter stages but just cannot compete with the whole PDC package with its standard and glitz and glamour ...and of course money....

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by craigmc » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:50 pm

It's shit

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Post by Murphio » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:58 pm

Ignoring the averages for a moment, you have a player in the final (who is number one in the org) who is nothing more than decent. There are dozens of McGeeney standard players in the PDC. He is going to get ragdolled by Durrant like he was Ratajski.

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Post by ifm » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:01 pm

Murphio wrote:Ignoring the averages for a moment, you have a player in the final (who is number one in the org) who is nothing more than decent. There are dozens of McGeeney standard players in the PDC. He is going to get ragdolled by Durrant like he was Ratajski.
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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Astonvilla » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:16 pm

Durrant staying has in some ways made the BDO less interesting as he is different class to the rest. Given several top ranked players will switch each year he could easily win the next 3 or 4 lakesides.

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Murphio » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:24 pm

Astonvilla wrote:Durrant staying has in some ways made the BDO less interesting as he is different class to the rest. Given several top ranked players will switch each year he could easily win the next 3 or 4 lakesides.
Yep. A total level above everyone but Scott Waites - but whether Scott gets his top form back is another question entirely. Durrant aside there is a clutch of decent/good players but that is really as far as it goes. Averages may have stayed largely the same but it would be very diffcult to make a case that the level of player hasn't decreased. When an average player like Mark McGeeney can make the BDO's two biggest finals and to the top of the rankings it makes the point perfectly.

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Zeyes » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:53 pm

On that note - now that McGeeney is auto-qualified for the next Lakeside for the first time, will he too start to decrease his tournament load? Durrant might play even less than he did in 2017, and Waites also isn't known for doing the circuit when he doesn't have to. Next year's top 2 seedings could make us nostalgic for this year's.

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by BDO Brad » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:58 am

craigmc wrote:It's shit
Much like your contribution to this thread.

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by ChrisW » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:26 am

Zeyes wrote:On that note - now that McGeeney is auto-qualified for the next Lakeside for the first time, will he too start to decrease his tournament load? Durrant might play even less than he did in 2017, and Waites also isn't known for doing the circuit when he doesn't have to. Next year's top 2 seedings could make us nostalgic for this year's.
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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by Addicks Fan » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:19 am

Updated for the final, with individual player stats as well - round by round are match averages per player weighted by number of legs, individual player averages are total points/total darts:

Prelim: 81.43 (83.59; 83.75; 78.54; 78.44)
Last 32: 86.78 (88.17; 86.06; 87.88; 85.15; 84.79; 86.04; 85.60)
Last 16: 90.87 (88.85; 87.00; 90.89; 87.97; 85.34; 88.08; 85.98)
Quarter Finals: 92.53 (91.10; 92.45; 92.15; 92.08; 90.63; 89.24; 88.38)
Semi Finals: 91.48 (95.54; 89.27; 96.00; 89.84; 90.51; 87.70; 88.18)
Final: 90.12 (93.39; 86.27; 92.57; 94.26; 84.17; 88.89; 90.61)

Overall (L32 onwards): 89.60 (89.92; 87.81; 90.61; 88.40; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)
Overall: 88.45 (88.80; 87.14; 88.60; 86.78; 86.49; 87.50; 86.87)

1 Darius Labanauskas 99.08 (99.08)
2 Scott Mitchell 97.35 (98.70; 96.39)
3 Glen Durrant 96.90 (95.29; 99.43; 100.92; 96.61; 93.93)
4 Scott Waites 92.52 (88.89; 93.21; 92.77; 94.14)
5 Wayne Warren 91.74 (95.07; 88.62; 92.67)
6 Andy Baetens 91.17 (86.73; 94.55; 91.86)
7 Conan Whitehead 90.89 (91.86; 90.28)
8 Danny Noppert 90.85 (94.89; 88.92; 89.48)
9 Ross Montgomery 90.72 (90.72)
10 Wesley Harms 90.56 (90.56)
11 Richard Veenstra 90.49 (91.88; 90.85; 89.66)
12 Darryl Fitton 89.52 (85.51; 93.37)
13 Dean Reynolds 89.19 (81.50; 94.53)
14 Mark McGeeney 88.65 (86.19; 92.13; 91.47; 88.84; 86.31)
15 Michael Unterbuchner 88.33 (84.77; 89.30; 88.88; 89.65; 88.33)
16 Jim Williams 88.31 (81.27; 90.18; 92.02)
17 Kyle McKinstry 87.99 (87.99)
18 Willem Mandigers 87.91 (89.58; 87.03)
19 Jamie Hughes 87.14 (87.14)
20 Scott Baker 85.75 (85.75)
21 Dennis Nilsson 85.52 (92.56; 82.42)
22 Gary Robson 85.50 (84.72; 86.31)
23 Chris Landman 84.67 (84.67)
24 Cameron Menzies 84.66 (84.66)
25 Derk Telnekes 84.20 (87.16; 81.73)
26 Nick Kenny 83.38 (83.38)
27 Martin Phillips 83.20 (83.23; 83.17)
28 Geert de Vos 82.92 (87.37; 77.37)
29 Martin Adams 82.08 (82.08)
30 Daniel Day 81.76 (86.24; 79.30)
31 Justin Thompson 81.36 (81.56; 81.09)
32 Craig Caldwell 80.38 (80.38)
33 Chris Gilliland 80.13 (80.13)
34 Jeffrey Sparidaans 77.42 (77.42)
35 David Cameron 77.30 (77.30)
36 Umit Uygunsozlu 76.19 (76.19)
37 Joe Chaney 76.09 (76.09)
38 Chris Harris 75.79 (75.22; 76.62)
39 Richie Edwards 71.51 (71.51)
40 Pengiran Mohamed 70.35 (70.35)

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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by oche balboa » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:21 pm

Zeyes wrote:On that note - now that McGeeney is auto-qualified for the next Lakeside for the first time, will he too start to decrease his tournament load? Durrant might play even less than he did in 2017, and Waites also isn't known for doing the circuit when he doesn't have to. Next year's top 2 seedings could make us nostalgic for this year's.
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Re: Lakeside 2018 Averages

Post by ChrisW » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:20 pm

oche balboa wrote:
Zeyes wrote:On that note - now that McGeeney is auto-qualified for the next Lakeside for the first time, will he too start to decrease his tournament load? Durrant might play even less than he did in 2017, and Waites also isn't known for doing the circuit when he doesn't have to. Next year's top 2 seedings could make us nostalgic for this year's.
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