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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Stranbougie » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:45 am

Duneh9617 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:11 am
Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:04 am
Criminals not getting visas to work in the UK .

I don't see how this is a bad thing .
No forgiveness in your book then? Dear, ooh Lord. I'll rue the day you ever make a mistake.
Yes forgiveness after he hasnt been in trouble for a set period of time to show that he has repented for his sins.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Garry Murphy » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:46 am

Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:45 am
Duneh9617 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:11 am
Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:04 am
Criminals not getting visas to work in the UK .

I don't see how this is a bad thing .
No forgiveness in your book then? Dear, ooh Lord. I'll rue the day you ever make a mistake.
Yes forgiveness after he hasnt been in trouble for a set period of time to show that he has repented for his sins.

Years ago the brits used Australia to dump their criminals.Now people are complaining the brits dont take criminals from Australia :grin:
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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Stranbougie » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:35 am

Garry Murphy wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:46 am
Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:45 am
Duneh9617 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:11 am
Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:04 am
Criminals not getting visas to work in the UK .

I don't see how this is a bad thing .
No forgiveness in your book then? Dear, ooh Lord. I'll rue the day you ever make a mistake.
Yes forgiveness after he hasnt been in trouble for a set period of time to show that he has repented for his sins.

Years ago the brits used Australia to dump their criminals.Now people are complaining the brits dont take criminals from Australia :grin:
The law is the law. easy

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by fling » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:03 am

Duneh9617 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:11 am
Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:04 am
Criminals not getting visas to work in the UK .

I don't see how this is a bad thing .
No forgiveness in your book then? Dear, ooh Lord. I'll rue the day you ever make a mistake.
A mistake is something like putting diesel into a petrol tank whereas committing theft amongst his other misdemeanours are slightly more than mistakes.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Astonvilla » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:18 am

Lots of people hate to see others doing well and love the chance to see them fail. Any rational person would say for Cadby to lose his entire career because of the past would be massively disproportionate.

They would of course take a totally different view if it was say a star player for the football team they support or a close friend or family member.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Stranbougie » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:54 am

Astonvilla wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:18 am
Lots of people hate to see others doing well and love the chance to see them fail. Any rational person would say for Cadby to lose his entire career because of the past would be massively disproportionate.

They would of course take a totally different view if it was say a star player for the football team they support or a close friend or family member.
Hi Astonvilla , I would deem this incorrect . Plenty of people have lost their jobs for mistakes in their past , myself included. Did I cry when i got sacked after 10 years in the same job , no i didnt , i had to man up and get another career . I suggest Cadby do the same.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Ginge » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:58 am

Didnt he come in on the wrong visa to begin with?

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Astonvilla » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:11 pm

Hardly the same given I assume you could get another job with similar pay. For someone to lose an entire sporting career is excessive and i have to wonder why anyone would deem that fair. Jealousy springs to mind.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Ginge » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:13 pm

Astonvilla wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:11 pm
Hardly the same given I assume you could get another job with similar pay. For someone to lose an entire sporting career is excessive and i have to wonder why anyone would deem that fair. Jealousy springs to mind.
Had he not tried to cheat the system and come in on the wrong visa the first time, people may have more sympathy.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Garry Murphy » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:05 pm

Astonvilla wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:11 pm
Hardly the same given I assume you could get another job with similar pay. For someone to lose an entire sporting career is excessive and i have to wonder why anyone would deem that fair. Jealousy springs to mind.
Excessive ?

Tell me, how many times can a person break the law before you deem it excessive ?
Cadby has more than one "mistake" on his record....thats called form.

I like Cadby as a player, but he broke the laws and you cannot just disregard the past when it suits you.
You cannot break laws, get a record . then enter another country on a supposed invalid visa, then expect people to feel sorry for him when authorities clamp down.
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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by phil davies » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:56 pm

Ginge wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:58 am
Didnt he come in on the wrong visa to begin with?
If he did then his manager should be blamed. Speaking of which where is he any update on the situation?

Personally hope he gets it sorted so he can play the full tour next year.
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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by TheSandman » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm

Ginge wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:58 am
Didnt he come in on the wrong visa to begin with?
I heard he misused his original visa when he started doing exhibition work, plus failed to disclose his previous crimes on original visa application

That’s why the uk government still hasn’t issued him a visa.

I’m sure Mac can come on and say that’s all bullshit

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Stranbougie » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:17 pm

Astonvilla wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:11 pm
Hardly the same given I assume you could get another job with similar pay. For someone to lose an entire sporting career is excessive and i have to wonder why anyone would deem that fair. Jealousy springs to mind.
Yes you have hit the nail on the head what a jealous fraggle I am.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Stranbougie » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:19 pm

TheSandman wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm
Ginge wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:58 am
Didnt he come in on the wrong visa to begin with?
I heard he misused his original visa when he started doing exhibition work, plus failed to disclose his previous crimes on original visa application

That’s why the uk government still hasn’t issued him a visa.

I’m sure Mac can come on and say that’s all bullshit
But but but we are denying him his chance at a sporting career , doesnt matter if he didnt follow correct process or lied on a visa application we should let him into work anyway !

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by 1205 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:35 pm

Duneh9617 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:11 am
Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:04 am
Criminals not getting visas to work in the UK .

I don't see how this is a bad thing .
No forgiveness in your book then? Dear, ooh Lord. I'll rue the day you ever make a mistake.
Forgiveness is irrelevant.
When it comes to visas, consider whether the country will benefit from them being here, and whether the risk of harm is worth it.
A past criminal history in Australia could be less of an issue than lying on an application and overstaying a visa. Some people just aren't worth it.

If dealing with criminality of a British citizen, it's different, because they aren't Somebody Else's Problem.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by nikkiboy » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:41 pm

Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:19 pm
TheSandman wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm
Ginge wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:58 am
Didnt he come in on the wrong visa to begin with?
I heard he misused his original visa when he started doing exhibition work, plus failed to disclose his previous crimes on original visa application

That’s why the uk government still hasn’t issued him a visa.

I’m sure Mac can come on and say that’s all bullshit
But but but we are denying him his chance at a sporting career , doesnt matter if he didnt follow correct process or lied on a visa application we should let him into work anyway !
Is it a criminal offence to lie on a visa application form?
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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Stranbougie » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:43 pm

nikkiboy wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:41 pm
Stranbougie wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:19 pm
TheSandman wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm
Ginge wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:58 am
Didnt he come in on the wrong visa to begin with?
I heard he misused his original visa when he started doing exhibition work, plus failed to disclose his previous crimes on original visa application

That’s why the uk government still hasn’t issued him a visa.

I’m sure Mac can come on and say that’s all bullshit
But but but we are denying him his chance at a sporting career , doesnt matter if he didnt follow correct process or lied on a visa application we should let him into work anyway !
Is it a criminal offence to lie on a visa application form?
Its not recommended .

These things are only ever a problem if you get caught.

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Ginge » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:59 pm

Also not a good idea to tick the wrong box by mistake :D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45678517

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by daveboygreen » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:39 am

Garry Murphy wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:05 pm
Astonvilla wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:11 pm
Hardly the same given I assume you could get another job with similar pay. For someone to lose an entire sporting career is excessive and i have to wonder why anyone would deem that fair. Jealousy springs to mind.
Excessive ?

Tell me, how many times can a person break the law before you deem it excessive ?
Cadby has more than one "mistake" on his record....thats called form.

I like Cadby as a player, but he broke the laws and you cannot just disregard the past when it suits you.
You cannot break laws, get a record . then enter another country on a supposed invalid visa, then expect people to feel sorry for him when authorities clamp down.
Certainly Garry, You cannot just disregard the past when it suits you as you remind others on a regular basis on your blog...Nor can you in your own personal life....Just remember that eh!!

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Re: Visa issues Cadby

Post by Ginge » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:20 am

Hic!

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